Will Obama punish States

[bornright]

It is my understanding that many states will refuse what the Stimulus Package offers them. Will Obama punish these states in some way for not going along with what many of us feel is a negative thing for this country?

 

[Xenophon]

How exactly could he do that?

 

[bornright]

How exactly could he do that?

Well actually there are several ways. I recall back to the Carter years where his administration threatened to withhold federal highway funds if the 55 mph speed limits where not enforced. Emergency funding for natural disasters could be withheld as punishment. The list goes on and on.

 

[doeton]

yeah, states if your legislature and state gov can't get your act together with shovel ready programs the fed will give that money to the states that can........

crazy...

 

[sealybobo]

How exactly could he do that?

Same way Bush punished blue states and rewarded red states.

Want an example? Look what Bush did for Florida before Katrina hit New Orleans:

As of noon Monday [the day after the hurricane left], in response to Hurricane Frances, FEMA and other Federal response agencies have taken the following actions:

-- About one hundred trucks of water and 280 trucks of ice are present or will arrive in the Jacksonville staging area today. 900,000 Meals-Ready-to-Eat are on site in Jacksonville, ready to be distributed.

-- Over 7,000 cases of food (e.g., vegetables, fruits, cheese, ham, and turkey) are scheduled to arrive in Winter Haven today. Disaster Medical Assistance Teams (DMAT) are on the ground and setting up comfort stations. FEMA community relations personnel will coordinate with DMATs to assist victims. -- Urban Search and Rescue Teams are completing reconnaissance missions in coordination with state officials.

-- FEMA is coordinating with the Department of Energy and the state to ensure that necessary fuel supplies can be distributed throughout the state, with a special focus on hospitals and other emergency facilities that are running on generators.

-- The Army Corps of Engineers will soon begin its efforts to provide tarps to tens of thousands of owners of homes and buildings that have seen damage to their roofs.

-- The National Guard has called up 4,100 troops in Florida, as well as thousands in other nearby states to assist in the distribution of supplies and in preparation for any flooding.

-- The Departments of Health and Human Services, Veterans Affairs, and Defense together have organized 300 medical personnel to be on standby. Medical personnel will begin deployment to Florida tomorrow.

-- FEMA is coordinating public information messages with Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and North Carolina so that evacuees from Florida can be informed when it is safe to return. -- In addition to federal personnel already in place to respond to Hurricane Charley, 1,000 additional community relations personnel are being deployed to Atlanta for training and further assignment in Florida.



All of this aid was vitally important to Bush family political fortunes in the upcoming election of 2004. Disaster relief checks were in the mail within a week. In just the first thirteen days after Hurricane Charley hit Florida, the White House web site notes that the Bush administration had succeeded in:

-- Registering approximately 136,000 assistance applicants
-- Approving over 13,500 applications for more than $59 million in housing assistance

-- Establishing 12 disaster recovery centers, which have assisted nearly 19,000 disaster victims

-- Deploying medical teams that have seen nearly 3,000 patients

-- Disbursing 1.2 million liters of water, 8.1 million pounds of ice, and 2 million meals and snacks

-- Delivering over 20,000 rolls of plastic sheeting and nearly 170 generators

-- Treating more than 2,900 individuals through FEMA Disaster Medical Assistance Teams, supporting damaged hospitals

That, of course, was for a Republican State, with a Republican governor, the crony brother of the President. Republicans needed to act like they cared about governing, because they wanted people to vote for them three months later.

 

[sealybobo]

How exactly could he do that?

Or, instead of Bush giving states like NY the money they needed to fight terrorism, he split up the money evenly, so places like Arkansas, Tennessee & Kentucky got just as much as NY did.

As if anyone was going to attack those red neck states. The tallest buildings they have are grain feeders.

 

[Xenophon]

Silly partisan nonsense removed.

You are rapidily advancing to my pay no mind to list.

Stop with this partisan nonsense and get it through your head both sides suck, and no, Bush didn't 'do more for Florida.'

 

[Xenophon]

How exactly could he do that?

Well actually there are several ways. I recall back to the Carter years where his administration threatened to withhold federal highway funds if the 55 mph speed limits where not enforced. Emergency funding for natural disasters could be withheld as punishment. The list goes on and on.

Those sounds like impeachable offenses, and would surely backfire.

There is nothing BO could do that would not give his critcis enormous ammunition and cause the dems severe damage in the next election.

 

[sealybobo]

Silly partisan nonsense removed.

You are rapidily advancing to my pay no mind to list.

Stop with this partisan nonsense and get it through your head both sides suck, and no, Bush didn't 'do more for Florida.'

I just showed you that he did do more for Florida. See my previous post.

PS. If you are going to insist that "both sides suck equally", then I'm going to put you on my FUCK OFF list.

Too late, you're already on it.

 

[sealybobo]

How exactly could he do that?

Well actually there are several ways. I recall back to the Carter years where his administration threatened to withhold federal highway funds if the 55 mph speed limits where not enforced. Emergency funding for natural disasters could be withheld as punishment. The list goes on and on.

Those sounds like impeachable offenses, and would surely backfire.

There is nothing BO could do that would not give his critcis enormous ammunition and cause the dems severe damage in the next election.

What, by punishing Alabama/W. Virginia and Georgia?

Trust me, no one in any blue state will care if Obama punishes the cock suckers who voted for McCain. Or the cock suckers that voted to kill the American auto industry.

 

[Xenophon]

Silly partisan nonsense removed.

You are rapidily advancing to my pay no mind to list.

Stop with this partisan nonsense and get it through your head both sides suck, and no, Bush didn't 'do more for Florida.'

I just showed you that he did do more for Florida. See my previous post.

PS. If you are going to insist that "both sides suck equally", then I'm going to put you on my FUCK OFF list.

Too late, you're already on it.

You are just a partisan little pussy, here is your neg rep right back at you useless.

 

[Xenophon]

What, by punishing Alabama/W. Virginia and Georgia?

Trust me, no one in any blue state will care if Obama punishes the cock suckers who voted for McCain. Or the cock suckers that voted to kill the American auto industry.

You really are quite childish, you think that there is such a red state/blue state devide.

 

[elvis]

What, by punishing Alabama/W. Virginia and Georgia?

Trust me, no one in any blue state will care if Obama punishes the cock suckers who voted for McCain. Or the cock suckers that voted to kill the American auto industry.

You really are quite childish, you think that there is such a red state/blue state devide.

silly bimbo useless? What would give you that idea?

 

[Xenophon]

silly bimbo useless? What would give you that idea?

Reading his posts.

 

[Jon]

How exactly could he do that?

Or, instead of Bush giving states like NY the money they needed to fight terrorism, he split up the money evenly, so places like Arkansas, Tennessee & Kentucky got just as much as NY did.

As if anyone was going to attack those red neck states. The tallest buildings they have are grain feeders.

So I see your problem isn't with Republicans, it's just with Southerners. Nice.

 

[jillian]

Silly partisan nonsense removed.

You are rapidily advancing to my pay no mind to list.

Stop with this partisan nonsense and get it through your head both sides suck, and no, Bush didn't 'do more for Florida.'

ummmmm... there is some truth to that. I mean, it seemed to me at the time that it didn't make sense for unlikely targets to be funded equally with new york.

And i know for a fact that Trent Lott told a friend of mine that if they won in 2004, NY wouldn't get anytihng because (quote) "I hate New York".

that's politics. And like everything else in life, sometimes you back the right horse, sometimes you don't.

 

[AllieBaba]

The way states will be punished is a little different than what's being bandied...

The ones who are going to get the big bucks are the ones who have refused to curb spending and have fucked up their budgets. So they will be rewarded for their irresponsible behavior and continue to waste taxpayers money.

The states which have been responsible with their money and haven't got budget crisises will not get $$.

So we're punishing the frugal states and politicians who actually safeguard the people's treasury...

And reward the criminal assholes who treat it like their own money tree.

 

[xsited1]

Yes. See my thread:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/69369-everybody-gets-to-bail-out-california.html

Well, I guess he won't be punishing all the States. Just most of the red ones.

 

[Vel]

How exactly could he do that?

Same way Bush punished blue states and rewarded red states.

Want an example? Look what Bush did for Florida before Katrina hit New Orleans:

As of noon Monday [the day after the hurricane left], in response to Hurricane Frances, FEMA and other Federal response agencies have taken the following actions:

-- About one hundred trucks of water and 280 trucks of ice are present or will arrive in the Jacksonville staging area today. 900,000 Meals-Ready-to-Eat are on site in Jacksonville, ready to be distributed.

-- Over 7,000 cases of food (e.g., vegetables, fruits, cheese, ham, and turkey) are scheduled to arrive in Winter Haven today. Disaster Medical Assistance Teams (DMAT) are on the ground and setting up comfort stations. FEMA community relations personnel will coordinate with DMATs to assist victims. -- Urban Search and Rescue Teams are completing reconnaissance missions in coordination with state officials.

-- FEMA is coordinating with the Department of Energy and the state to ensure that necessary fuel supplies can be distributed throughout the state, with a special focus on hospitals and other emergency facilities that are running on generators.

-- The Army Corps of Engineers will soon begin its efforts to provide tarps to tens of thousands of owners of homes and buildings that have seen damage to their roofs.

-- The National Guard has called up 4,100 troops in Florida, as well as thousands in other nearby states to assist in the distribution of supplies and in preparation for any flooding.

-- The Departments of Health and Human Services, Veterans Affairs, and Defense together have organized 300 medical personnel to be on standby. Medical personnel will begin deployment to Florida tomorrow.

-- FEMA is coordinating public information messages with Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and North Carolina so that evacuees from Florida can be informed when it is safe to return. -- In addition to federal personnel already in place to respond to Hurricane Charley, 1,000 additional community relations personnel are being deployed to Atlanta for training and further assignment in Florida.



All of this aid was vitally important to Bush family political fortunes in the upcoming election of 2004. Disaster relief checks were in the mail within a week. In just the first thirteen days after Hurricane Charley hit Florida, the White House web site notes that the Bush administration had succeeded in:

-- Registering approximately 136,000 assistance applicants
-- Approving over 13,500 applications for more than $59 million in housing assistance

-- Establishing 12 disaster recovery centers, which have assisted nearly 19,000 disaster victims

-- Deploying medical teams that have seen nearly 3,000 patients

-- Disbursing 1.2 million liters of water, 8.1 million pounds of ice, and 2 million meals and snacks

-- Delivering over 20,000 rolls of plastic sheeting and nearly 170 generators

-- Treating more than 2,900 individuals through FEMA Disaster Medical Assistance Teams, supporting damaged hospitals

That, of course, was for a Republican State, with a Republican governor, the crony brother of the President. Republicans needed to act like they cared about governing, because they wanted people to vote for them three months later.

Well bless your heart, that's what we've been saying all along. If there hadn't been a bunch of dumbass Democrats running Louisiana, things would have run smoothly there too.


Help beautify the South. Put a Michigander on a bus.

( not intended to insult all normal people from Michigan )

 

[truthsaga]

I believe we're missing the point of the conversation here!

What gives this president or any president the right to "punish" states. Where do they obtain this right?
Giving a president such a power totally goes against us having state and city government. The Federal government has no such power, we should be totally outraged by this.