Will Johnson win the White House?

[william the wie]

The LP seems to be polling the best in its 40 year history and it is not because Americans are becoming Libertarians.

1) The majors are fielding the worst candidates in living memory as in how crooked, felonious, deceptive and generally repellent are these two? Are they the result of the unnatural cross breeding of LBJ and Nixon?

2a) Hillary has two criminal investigations underway that we know about and will automatically be bumped if either an indictment or bench warrant is issued. Democratic rent a riot logistics have already been secured for Hillary's coronation in Philadelphia.

2b) Biden ending up the candidate when one or both of these problems blow up is likely. That means the Bernie vote will be outraged.

2c) If Bernie is the replacement everyone to the right of Pol Pot will vote against him.

3) Would anyone be greatly surprised if Trump insulted the Pope and Dalai Lama in the same speech?

So my main point is that turnout looks likely to be the lowest in US history but Libertarians do show up at the polls so that means an outright win is possible.

More likely if Gary Johnson wins some states and forces the race into house the R majority will not choose the D and are unlikely to choose Trump.

How say you?

 

[OldLady]

I dunno how we're supposed to do it, but somehow or other we've got to have better candidates next time.

 

[hjmick]

It would be refreshing, but I won't be holding my breath...

 

[william the wie]

I dunno how we're supposed to do it, but somehow or other we've got to have better candidates next time.

Both parties are quietly trying to dump their nominees But their potential substitutes are worse. Likewise the economy is likely to turn on the Democrats in the run up to the election as bankruptcies in the oil patch and current prices are seeing OPEC and China dumping dollar denominated stocks and bonds as their economies implode. Commercial real estate, particularly malls are still closing at a rapid clip.

 

[william the wie]

It would be refreshing, but I won't be holding my breath...

In a normal election year I would concur.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

The LP seems to be polling the best in its 40 year history and it is not because Americans are becoming Libertarians.

1) The majors are fielding the worst candidates in living memory as in how crooked, felonious, deceptive and generally repellent are these two? Are they the result of the unnatural cross breeding of LBJ and Nixon?

2a) Hillary has two criminal investigations underway that we know about and will automatically be bumped if either an indictment or bench warrant is issued. Democratic rent a riot logistics have already been secured for Hillary's coronation in Philadelphia.

2b) Biden ending up the candidate when one or both of these problems blow up is likely. That means the Bernie vote will be outraged.

2c) If Bernie is the replacement everyone to the right of Pol Pot will vote against him.

3) Would anyone be greatly surprised if Trump insulted the Pope and Dalai Lama in the same speech?

So my main point is that turnout looks likely to be the lowest in US history but Libertarians do show up at the polls so that means an outright win is possible.

More likely if Gary Johnson wins some states and forces the race into house the R majority will not choose the D and are unlikely to choose Trump.

How say you?

Can Gary Johnson win?

The same question was asked about Ex-Governor Ventura when he won the election in Minnesota and many thought he would never win, so anything is possible.

Johnson might win states like New Mexico, Colorado and Alaska but he need to win Texas to make any real threat of winning the White House and if he does then yeah you better get use to four years of him...

 

[DigitalDrifter]

No.

 

[Kristian]

If America need a male they would vote on Gary Johnson or Trump.

 

[skye]

lol

who the heck is

johnson? LOL

my God give us strength

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Will Johnson win the White House?"

No.

 

[flacaltenn]

The LP seems to be polling the best in its 40 year history and it is not because Americans are becoming Libertarians.

1) The majors are fielding the worst candidates in living memory as in how crooked, felonious, deceptive and generally repellent are these two? Are they the result of the unnatural cross breeding of LBJ and Nixon?

2a) Hillary has two criminal investigations underway that we know about and will automatically be bumped if either an indictment or bench warrant is issued. Democratic rent a riot logistics have already been secured for Hillary's coronation in Philadelphia.

2b) Biden ending up the candidate when one or both of these problems blow up is likely. That means the Bernie vote will be outraged.

2c) If Bernie is the replacement everyone to the right of Pol Pot will vote against him.

3) Would anyone be greatly surprised if Trump insulted the Pope and Dalai Lama in the same speech?

So my main point is that turnout looks likely to be the lowest in US history but Libertarians do show up at the polls so that means an outright win is possible.

More likely if Gary Johnson wins some states and forces the race into house the R majority will not choose the D and are unlikely to choose Trump.

How say you?

The way to get better candidates is not to REWARD the circus that the 2 parties brought to your ballot.

I think it's a definite possibility -- if Trump and Hill are close -- that Johnson will have enough electoral votes to throw it into the House. Here's the math..

To get to 270 in a tight Rep/Dem race -- for every Elec.Vote a 3rd candidate gets means that one of 2 majors has to win by that margin. With just 30 electoral votes, it means Dem or Rep has to WIN by 31 votes. Unless of course, it's a runaway or one of them goes to jail..

So New Mex,, Colo, Nevada, New Hampshire, and maybe parts of the 2 "not winner take states" starts to get into the mid-20s..

You should be glad that there are TWO experienced governors on the ballot besides the meglomaniacal power whores. And even getting 15% in enough states allows the Lib party to skip the expensive and exhausting task of jumping thru ballot access the next time..

See how that works? So vote to DONATE to KEEPing that choice alive. Give us the 15%.. And next time --- we'll have about $50Mill more to start with that isn't spent on court challenges and petitioning.

So if a pollster calls you --- choose the Lib Ticket. At least you'll be putting someone on the debate stage that isn't focused on clawing the other candidates eyes out.

 

[flacaltenn]

BTW --- Repubs --- It's like getting 2 votes for one. If it gets thrown into the House -- Likely -- Trump will win.

Not without major leftist camps burning down the village and a lot of screaming --- but that's the outcome.

 

[flacaltenn]

lol

who the heck is

johnson? LOL

my God give us strength

He's a 2 term governor of New Mexico.. Who the hell is Trump. Or better yet -- who the hell was BH Obama in 2008 ???

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

That polling is likely the result of disaffected conservatives, the consequence of GOP leadership pursuing sound, responsible governance, however halfhearted and motivated by partisanism as opposed to simply being the right thing to do.

Indeed, libertarianism is in essence a variation on the conservative theme: just as reactionary, just as frightened of change, just as wrong on the issues.

As is the case with conservatives, libertarians seek to return to an idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with – a utopian society completely divorced from the facts, with no basis in reality, a naïve, simplistic, sophomoric dogma dedicated to returning to a pre-Lochner economic/social paradigm in complete conflict with an industrialized, First World Nation such as the United States.

Not only will Johnson not be president, but his candidacy will likely only have the effect of adversely impacting Trump.

 

[william the wie]

Between proved reserves writedowns, declining energy prices and withdrawal of $ denominated reserves that will be recognized in the 3rd qtr. @ 1 trillion will banish from the capital markets. Current rig operators have an average breakeven point somewhere in the 30s/bbl and rig counts have started going up. As those proved reserves are sold off that average breakeven point will drop to somewhere in the $20s/bbl. that is another 1-2 Trillion of vanishing wealth. So, Hillary as the more of the same will find her support dropping. Trump's support will keep dropping because he's doing the Trump.

 

[Kristian]

New Mexico are a state in the United States or.

Moses is our God.

 

[flacaltenn]

Indeed, libertarianism is in essence a variation on the conservative theme: just as reactionary, just as frightened of change, just as wrong on the issues.

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Another know nothing pounding out a recorded narrative..

Frightened of change?? Like nominating a gay man to be your Prez nominee in fucking 1976?

Wrong on the issues ?? Like pointing out that the Mid East REQUIRES totalitarian tyrants to stem uprisings and bloodshed. And that the concepts of seeding democracy there are NOT worth American treasure and will not work?

We're 30 years ahead of "mainstream opinion" in the US. On school choice, On reviewing regulation. On ending corporate welfare, on sexual choice, on marijuana policy --- etc, etc..

 

[dblack]

I dunno how we're supposed to do it, but somehow or other we've got to have better candidates next time.

We need to change the voting system.

 

[Toro]

Zero chance.

But I might vote for him anyways.

 

[william the wie]

I dunno how we're supposed to do it, but somehow or other we've got to have better candidates next time.

We need to change the voting system.

The majors like things the way they are because it generates more money. The media like the campaign ad buys and the folks on welfare provide social worker jobs for D activists.