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Yes as a matter of fact in circumstances like those guards were in I bet officers did not show up late at night to check on SHIT. If orders were given why is not one of them made the claim? Why weren't any other guards doing it? Why just that one small group of guards?
If they had been ordered there would be evidence. The Col got hammered because of the failure of the Command to police itself and provide proper leadership.
Except night exersizes at night you never found any officer doing much of anything and in the field the Division staff Major and above did not even COME to the exersizes. The single Officer on dury at Battalion or Division never left his office to check on shit.
At night officers go home , to bed or to party. They do not show up at a prison ward to check on the night shift.
I personally don't buy into the conspiracy theory that torture goes all the way to the Bush administration, but I do think there was a serious lack of monitoring on the part of the US military and there should be punishments handed out to people other then the privates who directly partook in the action. You mentioned the colonel got hammered? What exactly do you mean by that? Was he court marshaled or just chastised? I just think the military did a poor job of handling the situation and there we others that deserved to be blamed to the actions that took place.
I always support the choice my country makes whether its someone I voted for or not. I don't like Palin but if she got elected I would deal with it the same as I have in the past with others I didn't want in office. If we turned into a socialist country and lost our freeedom for Capitalism that would be something different. I love Democracy. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are my inalienable rights.
Maybe there where. That's why UN weapons inspectors were there. They didn't have wmd's when bush invaded. Are you still suggesting they sent them to syria?
And Clinton didn't invade, bush did. Without a plan I might add.
I actually go one step further and suggest the whole thing went according to plan. They didn't finish the job in tora bora and spread us thin. That way they could bring in blackwater and haloburton, all at the taxpayers expense.
Chaney made a speech yrs ago telling exactly what would happen if we invaded. Yet he said the exact opposite when he was selling us un going in. Then said they didn't know it would be so tough.
Then they showed signs of fucking up progress almost so it would prolong the occupation. Why would they want to end that cash cow?
But i'm just a conspiracy theorist.
Meanwhile they are conspiring against us.
Hey, on john stewart Daily Show he said, referring to palin's "real" america comments, that bin ladin is mad that he didn't hit "real" america when he bombed ny. lol.
Yes, I call you sheeple.
I'm sure you were cool with bush v gore where the supreme court ruled to stop the recount and give florida to bush. They didn't think we could take the two weeks it would take to recount. In light of the last 8 yrs, maybe we should have taken the time.
You must be under informed if you can stand the thought of 4 more yrs of the same. Or if you believe mccain will be different than bush.
$10 bill a month in iraq.
Are you sure you served? The privates did point fingers at higher ups and some heads did roll over abu grabe. But no one signifigant.
We now know that chaney, ashcroft, rove, bush and rice discussed torture in the oval office. Ashcroft even was quoted as saying "my god history is going to judge us for this decision to torture........"
Don't play dumb. You do know ppl in the hague/europe want to charge rumsfeld with war crimes? A lot like hitler and his henchmen.
I personally don't buy into the conspiracy theory that torture goes all the way to the Bush administration, but I do think there was a serious lack of monitoring on the part of the US military and there should be punishments handed out to people other then the privates who directly partook in the action. You mentioned the colonel got hammered? What exactly do you mean by that? Was he court marshaled or just chastised? I just think the military did a poor job of handling the situation and there we others that deserved to be blamed to the actions that took place.
Stewart is a piece of slimethat's not funny. i really hope stewart wouldn't sink that low.
I think Obama would be better to do that. I'm not just saying that because I agree with him more than I agree with McCain, though. And had it just been McCain, I might have gone with him. (well, at least McCain 2K) The problem is that Palin's even more divisive than Bush/Cheney. She's unacceptable to a good chunk of the country and is even dividing your republican party. And the way McCain's run his campaign of late, I'm not even sure that it would be easy for HIM to act in a bi-partisan fashion anymore.
Please. Clinton was about the best Democrat the republicans could ever have hoped for. A moderate southerner, who gave the GOP 60% of what they wanted, from welfare reform, to NAFTA, to deregulation.
And they still treated him like a communist and smeared him for 8 years.
*yawn*
You got one thing almost right, but for the wrong reason. McCain is what is unacceptable to conservatives, not Palin.
Republicans and former Republicans endorsing Obama
Ken Adelman, former diplomat and member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board[21]
[edit] Support for Obama from scholars, authors and bloggers affiliated with conservatism
- Radio Host Michael Smerconish [22]
- Fmr. Congressman Jim Leach (R-IA).[23]
- Fmr. Senator Lincoln Chafee (R-RI).[24]
- Former publisher of National Review, Wick Allison[25][26]
- Jack Antaramian, Florida real estate developer and Bush fundraiser[27]
- Fmr. Mayor of Los Angeles Richard Riordan (R-CA).[28]
- Julie Nixon Eisenhower, daughter of former President Richard Nixon, granddaughter-in law of Dwight D. Eisenhower[29]
- Susan Eisenhower, granddaughter of Dwight D. Eisenhower and president of the Eisenhower Institute.[30][29][31]
- Lilibet Hagel, wife of Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE)[32][33]
- Rita E. Hauser, Former White House intelligence advisor for George W. Bush [23]
- Larry Hunter, Senior Fellow at the Institute for Policy Innovation and Chief Economist for the Free Enterprise Fund, former Reagan policy advisor[34]
- Rear Admiral John Hutson, USN (ret.), former Judge Advocate General of the Navy and the current dean and president of Franklin Pierce Law Center.[35]
- Legal scholar Douglas Kmiec[36]
- Tricia Mosley, former staffer to Senator Strom Thurmond[37]
- Paul O'Neill, United States Secretary of the Treasury from 2001-02 under George W. Bush[38]
- Colin Powell, former Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.[17]
- David Ruder, Chairman of the Securities & Exchange Commission under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush [39]
- Frank Schaeffer, pro-life advocate and the son of evangelist Francis Schaeffer. [40]
- Mayor Lou Thieblemont of Camp Hill, Penn. Thieblemont switched his party registration from Republican to Democrat so that he could vote for Obama in the Pennsylvania primary. [41]
- Fmr. Governor and Senator Lowell Weicker (R-CT).[42]
- Fmr. Governor Linwood Holton (R-VA), father-in-law of current Governor Tim Kaine (D-VA)[43]
- Actor and former Bush supporter Dennis Hopper[44]
- Fairbanks North Star Borough mayor Jim Whitaker endorsed Obama and delivered a speech on the second day of the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado.
- Andrew Bacevich, Professor of International Relations at Boston University.[45]
- Christopher Buckley, author, son of legendary conservative William F. Buckley, Jr. [46]
- Francis Fukuyama, author, key figure in the rise of neoconservatism.[47]
- Christopher Hitchens, author and essayist loosely affiliated with neo-conservative foreign policy.[48]
- Dorothy King, archeologist and conservative blogger.[49][50]
- Andrew Sullivan, libertarian commentator.[51]
Will an Obama Presidency be just as divisive between the right & left?
Bullshit. But then your delusional little world does sound and work different then everyone elses.
When you would have a president that is that far from the middle, I fully believe it will make the country that much more divisive ... he's an extremist... the most extreme left Senator in congress.... it would not be a good thing for the country
I always support the choice my country makes whether its someone I voted for or not. I don't like Palin but if she got elected I would deal with it the same as I have in the past with others I didn't want in office. If we turned into a socialist country and lost our freeedom for Capitalism that would be something different. I love Democracy. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are my inalienable rights.
You are a tool. Name one far left thing Obama has said about the Iraq war, oil, the economy.
Did he say he's going to nationalize gas like Hugo Chavez? No. He's just going to stop speculation and gouging. If that's liberal, sign me up.
Is he going to cut defense spending at the expense of our national security? No. Considering half of defense spending is waste, I say there is room to work without being too liberal about it. Don't you?
Is he going to give the people more socialist money than Bush gave to the top 1% and the banks? I seriously doubt it. Bush spend enough that he could have given everyone welfare, but he only spent it on the top 1%. That's wealth redistribution.
As for the "bailout", I doubt those kinds of emergencies will be happening anymore once the GOP are run out of Washington.
You are voting for a person and you do not even know their positions.
Maybe there where. That's why UN weapons inspectors were there. They didn't have wmd's when bush invaded. Are you still suggesting they sent them to syria?
And Clinton didn't invade, bush did. Without a plan I might add.
I actually go one step further and suggest the whole thing went according to plan. They didn't finish the job in tora bora and spread us thin. That way they could bring in blackwater and haloburton, all at the taxpayers expense.
Chaney made a speech yrs ago telling exactly what would happen if we invaded. Yet he said the exact opposite when he was selling us un going in. Then said they didn't know it would be so tough.
Then they showed signs of fucking up progress almost so it would prolong the occupation. Why would they want to end that cash cow?
But i'm just a conspiracy theorist.
Meanwhile they are conspiring against us.
They are the faction. O conspiracy,
Shamest thou to show thy dangerous brow by night,
When evils are most free? O, then by day
Where wilt thou find a cavern dark enough
To mask thy monstrous visage? Seek none, conspiracy;
Hide it in smiles and affability:
For if thou path, thy native semblance on,
Not Erebus itself were dim enough
To hide thee from prevention.
