Will America Go Communist?

[Oddball]

no

"America's first businessperson in the White House is doing more to destroy the American capitalist system than any previous president.

"A strong market economy needs a robust middle class, mechanisms for upward mobility, and clear rule of law to grow and sustain itself over time. US President Donald Trump has little allegiance to any of these."

Trump, tribalism and the end of American capitalism

We're operating under crony corporatist economic conditions, not laissez-faire capitalism...But you moronic Marxists would be nothing if you didn't lie out your asses.

The only thing you dickweeds will ever "rescue" is the ruling class.

 

[Andylusion]

Capitalism Has A Metaphor — It’s A Cancer

Then why are so many people fleeing your system, to get to our capitalist system?

 

[initforme]

The new generation of workers will ensure the strength of the nation. It sure isn't the I'll begotten lazy CEOs that do an ounce of work.

 

[georgephillip]

I guess you have ignored the reality that the middle class has grown under Trump and the lower class has seen a higher average salary increase (by percent) than any other class. The MSM doesn't tell folks that though. They want to keep the ignorant, ignorant. That is the only hope they have in getting one of the commies elected

I guess you haven't considered the possibility Trump is lying about the "great" economy, too?

If there's been any significant economic improvement since Don the Con took office, why haven't levels of consumer debt declined?

Americans now have $14 trillion in debt - CNN

"New York (CNN Business)US households are now sitting on a record $14 trillion in mortgages, credit cards, student loans and other forms of debt.

"Household debt ticked up 0.7% during the third quarter, the New York Federal Reserve said on Wednesday, continuing a five-year climb encouraged by low unemployment, strong consumer confidence and cheap borrowing costs.

"Consumer debt is now about $1.3 trillion higher than the previous peak set in 2008, although these figures are not adjusted for inflation nor the larger size of today's economy. Household debt has climbed about 25% from the post-recession low of $12.7 trillion."

 

[initforme]

I made my own despite that Reagan and Clinton and the Bush's hated me like all other workers...

 

[SAYIT]

no

"America's first businessperson in the White House is doing more to destroy the American capitalist system than any previous president.

"A strong market economy needs a robust middle class, mechanisms for upward mobility, and clear rule of law to grow and sustain itself over time. US President Donald Trump has little allegiance to any of these."

Trump, tribalism and the end of American capitalism

 

[georgephillip]

Go for it. Move there and make a better life for yourself, but were not bringing that crap here. The goodness of communism is a lie, it only ends up with people having less choices, less opportunities, less hope.

Trotsky answered your point in 1934.
US communism will be nothing like the Russian version:

Leon Trotsky: If America Should Go Communist (1934)

"Actually American soviets will be as different from the Russian soviets as the United States of President Roosevelt differs from the Russian Empire of Czar Nicholas II.

"Yet communism can come in America only through revolution, just as independence and democracy came in America.

"The American temperament is energetic and violent, and it will insist on breaking a good many dishes and upsetting a good many apple carts before communism is firmly established.

" Americans are enthusiasts and sportsmen before they are specialists and statesmen, and it would be contrary to the American tradition to make a major change without choosing sides and cracking heads."

 

[initforme]

The funniest part is there is no communism nor socialism in america. It's a Boogeyman scare tactic.

 

[initforme]

The millenial generation is by far the most productive generation ever. I like how they are smart enough to avoid the vast percentage of bad employers.

 

[georgephillip]

America will reject communism, as well crony government sponsored capitalism, as it exists today, and eventually adopt pure unobstructed free market based economy, which we do not have as yet but are creeping ever so closely toward. The coming debt crisis will accelerate the process and rock the government to its roots. The greatest threat to communism and government sponsored crony capitalism is the freedom to choose.

A market free of what, regulations or monopolies? Capitalism is designed to serve private interests at public expense. It concentrates wealth into fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation. It also allows ten percent of the population to profit from inflicting crushing levels of debt on 90% of their countrymen and women. I think you're right about the next big failure of capitalism, but I suspect your wrong about who's responsible.

 

[bripat9643]

No. Even so capitalism as we know it is a failure as a sustainable economic system

Get a fricken job so capitalism can be sustainable...dumbass.

Capitalism can certainly be sustainable but as it is it will destroy the world and rob us of our freedoms. Instead of attacking communism, a system no one wants, maybe you should focus your energy on saving capitalism from itself.

Capitalism can certainly be sustainable but as it is it will destroy the world and rob us of our freedoms. Instead of attacking communism, a system no one wants, maybe you should focus your energy on saving capitalism from itself.

Capitalism is designed to serve private interests at the expense of the public. Like rogue cancer cells within otherwise health human beings, greedy individuals who care about nothing except rapid growth and exploitation of natural resources eventually destroy the larger collective they function within. You don't have to look any further than the Oval Office to see evidence of this malignancy.

You only proved that you don't have the slightest idea what capitalism is.

 

[georgephillip]

Bernie Sanders is the quintessential Communist, declaring American Capitalism bad while himself owning 3 homes, being a multi millionaire and never running a business or making a profit on his own hard work. Every dime he has made is on taxpayer money. Yet he sits there and denigrates the 'rich' and promises free shit to everyone. He's a commie liar.

Feel the Bern

"...the Washington Post reporting Thursday that Sanders is considering a wide range of orders, including lifting restrictions on U.S. imports of prescription drugs from Canada and banning the export of crude oil."

Bernie Sanders’ surge in the polls could hit the S&P 500 with Iowa Caucus vote due this week, analysts warn

 

[initforme]

While Bernie cannot win it does give a sign the nation is strong and healthy. It's peace of mind.

 

[georgephillip]

Communism has always been a disaster, and it always will be. Government isn't competent to run an economy.

Modern economies can't exist without government.
Your hysterical screed against communism doesn't change the fundamental nature of capitalism:

Capitalism Has A Metaphor — It’s A Cancer

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"Capitalism is a cancer and it is killing us.

"In this knowledge comes hope.

"If capitalism is a cancer we can apply what is known about treating this deadly disease to the political and economic systems that nurtured it into being.

"Cancer — at its core — is a process of deregulation for life-giving functions in the body.

"Programmed cell death tells the individual cells of the body that they have lived out their usefulness."

Have you considered the possibility you've outlived your usefulness?

 

[georgephillip]

Communism is slavery. It always leads to mass starvation.

How many millions did capitalism starve in India and Ireland?

 

[georgephillip]

Capitalism's main problem right now is that so many who think they're defending it are doing such a shitty job.

This pseudo/quasi-libertarianism that has consumed the GOP since the days of Reagan is making capitalism ripe for the picking.

These people really should be receiving Thank You cards from those who want socialism or communism, for the assistance.
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How do you think capitalism will react if Bernie moves into the White House and he lifts restrictions on US imports of prescription drugs from Canada and bans the export of crude oil?

The American standard of living will go down, of course.

The American standard of living will go down, of course.

Lower prescription drug prices and cleaner water and air lower the American standard of living? Who told you that?

 

[bluzman61]

Don't ask Bernie.
Ask Trotsky or Trump.
From 1934:

"Introduction from Fourth International

"The campaign against Marxist ideas sponsored by the capitalist witchhunters today aims to implant the false impression that Communism is completely alien to American life and opposed to the welfare of the American people.

"In the Thirties, during the rapid spread of anti-capitalist feelings following the Great Depression, there was considerable popular interest in the prospects of a Communist America.

"On this account the editors of Liberty Magazine turned to Leon Trotsky for a bird’s-eye view of what the Communist future holds for the United States..."

"'At present most Americans regard communism solely in the light of the experience of the Soviet Union.

"'They fear lest Sovietism in America would produce the same material result as it has brought for the culturally backward peoples of the Soviet Union...."

"Actually American soviets will be as different from the Russian soviets as the United States of President Roosevelt differs from the Russian Empire of Czar Nicholas II.

"Yet communism can come in America only through revolution, just as independence and democracy came in America.

"The American temperament is energetic and violent, and it will insist on breaking a good many dishes and upsetting a good many apple carts before communism is firmly established.

"Americans are enthusiasts and sportsmen before they are specialists and statesmen, and it would be contrary to the American tradition to make a major change without choosing sides and cracking heads."

Will Trump upset the capitalists' apple carts?

How many heads will crack before next November?

Leon Trotsky: If America Should Go Communist (1934)

Not a CHANCE, ya knucklehead.

 

[georgephillip]

You just confirmed it.

So did you

 

[JustAGuy1]

You just confirmed it.

So did you

Communism has ALWAYS been put in place with weapons. Are you prepared for that?

 

[DBA]

I guess you have ignored the reality that the middle class has grown under Trump and the lower class has seen a higher average salary increase (by percent) than any other class. The MSM doesn't tell folks that though. They want to keep the ignorant, ignorant. That is the only hope they have in getting one of the commies elected

I guess you haven't considered the possibility Trump is lying about the "great" economy, too?

If there's been any significant economic improvement since Don the Con took office, why haven't levels of consumer debt declined?

Americans now have $14 trillion in debt - CNN

"New York (CNN Business)US households are now sitting on a record $14 trillion in mortgages, credit cards, student loans and other forms of debt.

"Household debt ticked up 0.7% during the third quarter, the New York Federal Reserve said on Wednesday, continuing a five-year climb encouraged by low unemployment, strong consumer confidence and cheap borrowing costs.

"Consumer debt is now about $1.3 trillion higher than the previous peak set in 2008, although these figures are not adjusted for inflation nor the larger size of today's economy. Household debt has climbed about 25% from the post-recession low of $12.7 trillion."

Wages are up, inflation is down, consumer confidence is high ,etc. There is no lying, these are simple facts. People have a spending problem, no doubt about it, but that is not Trump's fault, in fact, if I were to blame it on any political party it would be the Democrats, who do absolutely nothing to promote personal responsibility with regards to anything.