Will 9/11 inside job ever answer my questions?

[Gamolon]

dont you think in would be incumbent on nist to show forensic evidence of tempatures predicted as required for structural failure

Don't you think that the people accusing government officials and anyone else involved in this massive cover-up of the murder of 3,000 innocent people need forensic evidence to back their claims?

Or is it sufficient in your pathetic little world you reside in to make these claims and believe them?

Where is the forensic evidence of molten steel? What evidence do you have that proves it was molten steel?

there is only wittiness testimony as the perpetrators have control of the evidence..however
it is there theory..so it is required they show that the temperatures they theorize as required to cause failure actually existed

So you don't believe Dr. Quintiere when he says that he believes that the floor trusses are what failed and lead to the collapse?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Fresh Kills Landfill.

How many pictures from the landfill area would you like to see? When will you learn when I make a statement like that I can back it up. Yes Eots the debris was gone through by hand.

 

[DiveCon]

Fresh Kills Landfill.

How many pictures from the landfill area would you like to see? When will you learn when I make a statement like that I can back it up. Yes Eots the debris was gone through by hand.

Id-Eots seems to think that every last scrap needed to be saved for eternity

 

[eots]

don't you think that the people accusing government officials and anyone else involved in this massive cover-up of the murder of 3,000 innocent people need forensic evidence to back their claims?

Or is it sufficient in your pathetic little world you reside in to make these claims and believe them?

Where is the forensic evidence of molten steel? What evidence do you have that proves it was molten steel?

there is only wittiness testimony as the perpetrators have control of the evidence..however
it is there theory..so it is required they show that the temperatures they theorize as required to cause failure actually existed

so you don't believe dr. Quintiere when he says that he believes that the floor trusses are what failed and lead to the collapse?

no.. I believe him when he says the investigation "was blocked" and "fact finding deterred" and the nist report should be archived and an independent fact driven investigation is required

 

[eots]

fresh kills landfill.

how many pictures from the landfill area would you like to see? When will you learn when i make a statement like that i can back it up. Yes eots the debris was gone through by hand.

id-eots seems to think that every last scrap needed to be saved for eternity

divecunt thinks that the fact testing failed to find the
temperatures required for failure is not relevant

 

[eots]

so a dozen men went through all that debris by hand ...lol...link please

 

[SFC Ollie]

so a dozen men went through all that debris by hand ...lol...link please

Eots, you are really making this too easy.

"On the night of September
12, 2001 the Fresh Kills
Landfill on Staten Island
was designated a crime
scene and trucks began
arriving from Ground Zero
with steel and crushed
debris that was once
the World Trade Center.
Over the next ten months,
an operation to recover
human remains, personal
effects and the objects
of everyday life from 1.8
million tons of material was
undertaken by the New
York Police Department,
an FBI evidence recovery
team, twenty-five state
and federal agencies, and
fourteen private contractors.
The story of this operation
unfolds in many rare images
and compelling objects that
are now preserved for history.
Thousands of detectives,
agents, and forensic evidence
specialists worked around
the clock to recover remnants
of the lives lost
at the World Trade Center.
Over 1.7 million hours were
spent working at the landfill.
The exhibition photographs,
taken over several months,
document the immense task."

http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/exhibits/longterm/documents/recovery.pdf

 

[Foxfyre]

I sometimes just shake my head that these 9/11 conspiracy threads are still alive and well.

1. Having been married to a career claims adjuster for a lot of decades now and having worked in the business myself for several years I have taken at least many hundreds of recorded statements from eye witnesses to accidents. In all there are variations of what happened between various witnesses regarding numbers of people involved, colors, directions, sequences, and just about any other detail you can think of.

Case in point: Many of us remember the day that President Kennedy was shot--some of us were told by others--some heard it on the radio--some were watching on television--some were there. We all can remember our exact emotions at the time, where we were, some of the people we were with, and can recite many details of the incident and the days that followed. And no two of us will remember everything exactly the same or in exactly the same sequence if we all sat down to write it down from memory.

(And conspiracy theories about all that are still alive and well too.) Variations in witness testimony suggest nothing other than normal witness testimony.

2. There are volumes of engineering reports prepared by qualified professional engineers explaining the structural anomalies in the World Trade Center Towers than caused them to collapse. These reports also explain damage to surrounding buildings that were subsequently taken down. For such reports to have been falsified by so many would have required a conspiracy of monumental proportions.

3. There is a plethora of reliable information, such as what Ollie posted, explaining how every possible particle remaining from those destroyed buildings was picked through and sifted to ensure nothing pertinent that remained would be overlooked. Thousands of workers participated in that process and some are now reporting illness as a result. For such reports to have been falsified by so many would have required a conspiracy beyond all believable credibility.

When you take the eye witnesses, forensic analysis, and physical evidence involved, for the events of 9/11 to have been anything other than what was reported would have required an organized conspiracy that would have required years to accomplish.

 

[eots]

so a dozen men went through all that debris by hand ...lol...link please

Eots, you are really making this too easy.

"On the night of September
12, 2001 the Fresh Kills
Landfill on Staten Island
was designated a crime
scene and trucks began
arriving from Ground Zero
with steel and crushed
debris that was once
the World Trade Center.
Over the next ten months,
an operation to recover
human remains, personal
effects and the objects
of everyday life from 1.8
million tons of material was
undertaken by the New
York Police Department,
an FBI evidence recovery
team, twenty-five state
and federal agencies, and
fourteen private contractors.
The story of this operation
unfolds in many rare images
and compelling objects that
are now preserved for history.
Thousands of detectives,
agents, and forensic evidence
specialists worked around
the clock to recover remnants
of the lives lost
at the World Trade Center.
Over 1.7 million hours were
spent working at the landfill.
The exhibition photographs,
taken over several months,
document the immense task."

http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/exhibits/longterm/documents/recovery.pdf

personal objects and human remains...not looking for evidence of explosives or finding steel that would reflect the tempatures claimed

 

[eots]

[

QUOTE=Foxfyre;3359231]I sometimes just shake my head that these 9/11 conspiracy threads are still alive and well.

1. Having been married to a career claims adjuster for a lot of decades now and having worked in the business myself for several years I have taken at least many hundreds of recorded statements from eye witnesses to accidents. In all there are variations of what happened between various witnesses regarding numbers of people involved, colors, directions, sequences, and just about any other detail you can think of.

Case in point: Many of us remember the day that President Kennedy was shot--some of us were told by others--some heard it on the radio--some were watching on television--some were there. We all can remember our exact emotions at the time, where we were, some of the people we were with, and can recite many details of the incident and the days that followed. And no two of us will remember everything exactly the same or in exactly the same sequence if we all sat down to write it down from memory.

(And conspiracy theories about all that are still alive and well too.) Variations in witness testimony suggest nothing other than normal witness testimony.

2. There are volumes of engineering reports prepared by qualified professional engineers explaining the structural anomalies in the World Trade Center Towers than caused them to collapse. These reports also explain damage to surrounding buildings that were subsequently taken down. For such reports to have been falsified by so many would have required a conspiracy of monumental proportions.

really who / NIST ?...popular mechanics

3. There is a plethora of reliable information, such as what Ollie posted, explaining how every possible particle remaining from those destroyed buildings was picked through and sifted to ensure nothing pertinent that remained would be overlooked. Thousands of workers participated in that process and some are now reporting illness as a result. For such reports to have been falsified by so many would have required a conspiracy beyond all believable credibility.

yet still nothing to prove the temperatures claimed

eye witnesses, forensic analysis, and physical evidence involved, for the events of 9/11 to have been anything other than what was reported would have required an organized conspiracy that would have required years to accomplish

]

too much for your 30 sec sound bite mentality ?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Eots, you are a tool. A small inefficient one, but a tool none the less.

 

[Mr. Jones]

When you take the eye witnesses, forensic analysis, and physical evidence involved, for the events of 9/11 to have been anything other than what was reported would have required an organized conspiracy that would have required years to accomplish.

It is said that this indeed was a monumental conspiracy that had its origins planned for a very long time, some say as long as 30 years. When you study the facts and evidence about the whole thing, many people, credible people, come up with rouge elements of the government being involved as well as a cover up.

 

[Gamolon]

yet still nothing to prove the temperatures claimed

And what were those temperatures claimed?

 

[candycorn]

When you take the eye witnesses, forensic analysis, and physical evidence involved, for the events of 9/11 to have been anything other than what was reported would have required an organized conspiracy that would have required years to accomplish.

It is said that this indeed was a monumental conspiracy that had its origins planned for a very long time, some say as long as 30 years. When you study the facts and evidence about the whole thing, many people, credible people, come up with rouge elements of the government being involved as well as a cover up.

Facts are firmly on the side of the 9/11 Commission report. Always have been, always will be.

You are welcome to present some facts if you like but we all know what you present aren't facts; just opinions.

Remember when you said there were reports of the US trying to plant WMDs in Iraq? Remember that? Where is your proof? You mysteriously never posted any. It's a trend with all twoofers; talk big, then slink away like cowards.

 

[Obamerican]

Whoops must have typoed 747 instead of 757 haha, my mistake.

ya typoed...thats it

I realize we all can be perfect like you and typo a key that's 1 away. I'm sure you've never made a simple typo before? Whatever.

So Mr Thinker, what do you propose happened during 9/11? Who all was in on it? The NYPD, FBI, CIA, White House, NYFD? Don't you think if all these people were involved at least one person would have stepped forward?

Eots is a moron. He makes typos all the time.

 

[Obamerican]

Color me naive, but I never thought I would find one that makes Chri$$y look like a genius.

Until today.

With all phony movements truthers like the climate change everything proves the conspiracy, It just grows and grows .In real fact finding there are things that disprove theories.
Those things are called facts and evidence.

Those are deflected with red herrings and strawmen to keep the conspiracy alive.
For example:
Jet fuels burns at temperatures sufficient to weaken iron so it undergoes transition.
Truthers go all in with jet fuel cannot create molten steel.


Yours truly @ near free fall speed.( a meaningess phrase)

splitting hairs over seconds is what is meaningless...there are many reports of molten steel...yet NIST found ZERO forensic evidence of the predicted temperatures required to cause structural failure...these are the facts

List them or link to them, bitch.

 

[Obamerican]

so a dozen men went through all that debris by hand ...lol...link please

Eots, you are really making this too easy.

"On the night of September
12, 2001 the Fresh Kills
Landfill on Staten Island
was designated a crime
scene and trucks began
arriving from Ground Zero
with steel and crushed
debris that was once
the World Trade Center.
Over the next ten months,
an operation to recover
human remains, personal
effects and the objects
of everyday life from 1.8
million tons of material was
undertaken by the New
York Police Department,
an FBI evidence recovery
team, twenty-five state
and federal agencies, and
fourteen private contractors.
The story of this operation
unfolds in many rare images
and compelling objects that
are now preserved for history.
Thousands of detectives,
agents, and forensic evidence
specialists worked around
the clock to recover remnants
of the lives lost
at the World Trade Center.
Over 1.7 million hours were
spent working at the landfill.
The exhibition photographs,
taken over several months,
document the immense task."

http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/exhibits/longterm/documents/recovery.pdf

personal objects and human remains...not looking for evidence of explosives or finding steel that would reflect the tempatures claimed

"temperatures", moron.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Eots, you are really making this too easy.

"On the night of September
12, 2001 the Fresh Kills
Landfill on Staten Island
was designated a crime
scene and trucks began
arriving from Ground Zero
with steel and crushed
debris that was once
the World Trade Center.
Over the next ten months,
an operation to recover
human remains, personal
effects and the objects
of everyday life from 1.8
million tons of material was
undertaken by the New
York Police Department,
an FBI evidence recovery
team, twenty-five state
and federal agencies, and
fourteen private contractors.
The story of this operation
unfolds in many rare images
and compelling objects that
are now preserved for history.
Thousands of detectives,
agents, and forensic evidence
specialists worked around
the clock to recover remnants
of the lives lost
at the World Trade Center.
Over 1.7 million hours were
spent working at the landfill.
The exhibition photographs,
taken over several months,
document the immense task."

http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/exhibits/longterm/documents/recovery.pdf

personal objects and human remains...not looking for evidence of explosives or finding steel that would reflect the tempatures claimed

"temperatures", moron.

Be nice, he just finished a joint.

 

[Obamerican]

When you take the eye witnesses, forensic analysis, and physical evidence involved, for the events of 9/11 to have been anything other than what was reported would have required an organized conspiracy that would have required years to accomplish.

It is said that this indeed was a monumental conspiracy that had its origins planned for a very long time, some say as long as 30 years. When you study the facts and evidence about the whole thing, many people, credible people, come up with rouge elements of the government being involved as well as a cover up.

Who says 30 years? The idiots that say they used C4 coated rebar in the construction?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

When you take the eye witnesses, forensic analysis, and physical evidence involved, for the events of 9/11 to have been anything other than what was reported would have required an organized conspiracy that would have required years to accomplish.

It is said that this indeed was a monumental conspiracy that had its origins planned for a very long time, some say as long as 30 years. When you study the facts and evidence about the whole thing, many people, credible people, come up with rouge elements of the government being involved as well as a cover up.

You mean the explosives were built into the building when it was erected?
OMG!!!