Why would anyone object to Virginia’s new gun laws?

[Mac-7]

Absolutely there is nothing in those laws that any rational person should find objectionable. It is about the public safety. Given comments on this board and others by right-wingers there are people that should not be anywhere near dangerous objects much less guns.

/——/ Those who give up liberty for the false sense of security deserve neither. BF

Liberty to me is going to church and not fearing I will be shot in the head during a hymnal.

Government cannot prevent that

killers will always find a way

better you should try to stop the hate being spewed toward Christians

Keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics will.

So raise your kids right focus on rebuilding families

Liberals cant accept that idea because it would mean that their liberal culture is driving people crazy

 

[WinterBorn]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

I think you might live in the wrong country, you can’t infringe on my rights.. sorry buddy

You are a convicted felon. YOu don't have gun rights. You threw them away when you choose to commit a felony. YOu gave them away when you chose to take the plea deal.

I speaking in general, you can’t infringe on Americans rights.. and I think you might see that law changed.

Which law?

 

[Mac-7]

Liberty to me is going to church and not fearing I will be shot in the head during a hymnal.

Government cannot prevent that

killers will always find a way

better you should try to stop the hate being spewed toward Christians

Keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics will.

You mean a total ban and confiscation

thats not acceptable

and would not succeed anyway since criminals do not obey the law

Gun confiscation is a red herring argument. It is about keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics. Virginia’s laws are more than sensible and reasonable. If SCOTUS rules otherwise so be it.

It depends on who gets to decide who is a lunatic. Can you spot a lunatic?

If they take all the guns the lunatics that modern liberal culture is creating will find other ways to kill

 

[rightwinger]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

Absolutely there is nothing in those laws that any rational person should find objectionable. It is about the public safety. Given comments on this board and others by right-wingers there are people that should not be anywhere near dangerous objects much less guns.

/——/ Those who give up liberty for the false sense of security deserve neither. BF

Allowing assholes to run around in public armed is asking to get people killed

 

[rightwinger]

Government cannot prevent that

killers will always find a way

better you should try to stop the hate being spewed toward Christians

Keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics will.

You mean a total ban and confiscation

thats not acceptable

and would not succeed anyway since criminals do not obey the law

Gun confiscation is a red herring argument. It is about keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics. Virginia’s laws are more than sensible and reasonable. If SCOTUS rules otherwise so be it.

It depends on who gets to decide who is a lunatic. Can you spot a lunatic?

If they take all the guns the lunatics that modern liberal culture is creating will find other ways to kill

Which part of Virginia’s new gun laws takes away people’s guns?

 

[Blues Man]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

Because they do absolutely nothing to stop the illegal gun trade or the use of guns by criminals.

 

[Auld Phart]

3. Allow localities to ban guns in some public areas

What ever happened to local rule? If a locality wants to ban carrying guns in parks and playgrounds, why shouldn’t they?

Right,

because assholes looking to make a name for themselves never carry firearms into Gun Free Zones.

It does, however, prevent people with guns from defending people in those areas

 

[rightwinger]

2. Universal background checks

Overwhelmingly supported by most Americans. Why don’t we want to keep gun sales away from criminals?

Dude, no law will ever prevent criminals from getting guns. That result simply can't be legislated.

Very true

But no law prevents people from murdering or raping either. While we can’t stop all access to guns for criminals, doesn’t mean we should not try to stop any

 

[Mac-7]

Government cannot prevent that

killers will always find a way

better you should try to stop the hate being spewed toward Christians

Keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics will.

You mean a total ban and confiscation

thats not acceptable

and would not succeed anyway since criminals do not obey the law

Gun confiscation is a red herring argument. It is about keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics. Virginia’s laws are more than sensible and reasonable. If SCOTUS rules otherwise so be it.

It depends on who gets to decide who is a lunatic. Can you spot a lunatic?

That is the function of the waiting period and the background check.

The criminal in this story didnt need a gun

but the woman defending her children did

 

[Blues Man]

3. Allow localities to ban guns in some public areas

What ever happened to local rule? If a locality wants to ban carrying guns in parks and playgrounds, why shouldn’t they?

A completely unenforceable law

What are you going to do make everyone walk through a metal detector or require they submit to being frisked every time they walk into t park?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

1. A limit of one handgun purchase per month

How does being able to purchase over 12 handguns a month make you safer? Unlimited handgun purchases opens a path to shill purchasers where a legal buyer can buy guns to sell to criminals

It is an infringement, therefore unconstitutional.

 

[rightwinger]

3. Allow localities to ban guns in some public areas

What ever happened to local rule? If a locality wants to ban carrying guns in parks and playgrounds, why shouldn’t they?

Right,

because assholes looking to make a name for themselves never carry firearms into Gun Free Zones.

It does, however, prevent people with guns from defending people in those areas

True
But do we need armed fans at football games? Do you want that drunk idiot sitting next to you being armed?

 

[Blues Man]

2. Universal background checks

Overwhelmingly supported by most Americans. Why don’t we want to keep gun sales away from criminals?

Dude, no law will ever prevent criminals from getting guns. That result simply can't be legislated.

Very true

But no law prevents people from murdering or raping either. While we can’t stop all access to guns for criminals, doesn’t mean we should not try to stop any

This doesn't even do that.

We already know what works and the funny thing is Richmond VA was one of the first to do it and had amazing success reducing both crime and murders.

Project Exile

Program Goals
Project Exile was a crime reduction strategy launched in 1997 in Virginia, by the U.S. Attorney’s Office, as a result of the spike in violent crime rates in the late 1980s and early 1990s. During these years, Richmond, Virginia consistently ranked among the top 10 U.S. cities in homicides per capita. Specifically, in 1994, Richmond was ranked 2nd for homicides per capita, with a homicide rate of 80 per 100,000 residents. Overall, the goal of the project was to deter felons from carrying firearms and decrease firearm-related homicides through both sentence enhancements for firearm-related offenses and incapacitating violent felons (Rosenfeld, Fornango, and Baumer 2005).

Study 1
Firearm Homicide Rates, Project Exile
Rosenfeld and colleagues (2005) found a statistically significant intervention effect for Project Exile. Firearm homicides in Richmond exhibited a 22 percent yearly decline, compared with the average reduction of about 10 percent per year for other large U.S. cities. The difference is statistically significant.

 

[Mac-7]

2. Universal background checks

Overwhelmingly supported by most Americans. Why don’t we want to keep gun sales away from criminals?

Dude, no law will ever prevent criminals from getting guns. That result simply can't be legislated.

Very true

But no law prevents people from murdering or raping either. While we can’t stop all access to guns for criminals, doesn’t mean we should not try to stop any

It does if you have to violate the civil rights of honest citizens to do it

whats your opinion on my idea that gov northam should renounce armed protection for himself?

 

[Blues Man]

3. Allow localities to ban guns in some public areas

What ever happened to local rule? If a locality wants to ban carrying guns in parks and playgrounds, why shouldn’t they?

Right,

because assholes looking to make a name for themselves never carry firearms into Gun Free Zones.

It does, however, prevent people with guns from defending people in those areas

True
But do we need armed fans at football games? Do you want that drunk idiot sitting next to you being armed?

A football arena is private property and the owners can make any rules they want.

 

[2aguy]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

Violations of a Civil Right........no different from saying you can only vote in one election and not others and universal background checks 1) don't work and 2) are only desired as a pretext to get universal gun registration.............and allowing localities to ban guns on their own creates an environment where you won't be able to carry your legal gun anywhere since these localities will start banning the in every public space they can find.....

 

[Mac-7]

3. Allow localities to ban guns in some public areas

What ever happened to local rule? If a locality wants to ban carrying guns in parks and playgrounds, why shouldn’t they?

Right,

because assholes looking to make a name for themselves never carry firearms into Gun Free Zones.

It does, however, prevent people with guns from defending people in those areas

True
But do we need armed fans at football games? Do you want that drunk idiot sitting next to you being armed?

In most cases its an unlicensed firearm that the drunken idiot is using

 

[2aguy]

1. A limit of one handgun purchase per month

How does being able to purchase over 12 handguns a month make you safer? Unlimited handgun purchases opens a path to shill purchasers where a legal buyer can buy guns to sell to criminals

It is a Right to own guns, and they are a legal product.........this is essentially saying you can only buy one Newpaper a month or go to only one website a month........you moron,

 

[rightwinger]

1. A limit of one handgun purchase per month

How does being able to purchase over 12 handguns a month make you safer? Unlimited handgun purchases opens a path to shill purchasers where a legal buyer can buy guns to sell to criminals

It is an infringement, therefore unconstitutional.

We need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. We can make gun shops check to see if someone is a felon before they sell a gun. But nothing stops a legal gun buyer from buying a dozen handguns and then reselling them to criminals

 

[rightwinger]

1. A limit of one handgun purchase per month

How does being able to purchase over 12 handguns a month make you safer? Unlimited handgun purchases opens a path to shill purchasers where a legal buyer can buy guns to sell to criminals

It is a Right to own guns, and they are a legal product.........this is essentially saying you can only buy one Newpaper a month or go to only one website a month........you moron,

Neither of which gets people killed
Guns in the hands of criminals gets people killed