Why would anyone be surprised if 50% of Americans have a "Preexisting Condition"?

[Modbert]

Obama doesn't make up the preexisting conditions folks, insurance companies do.

Pre-Existing Medical Conditions - Summary List

Abnormal PAP Smear
Achalasia, Cardiospasm
Acne
Acromegaly
Acute Poliomyelitis
ADD
Addison's Disease
Adrenal Insufficiency
AIDS
Alcohol Abuser
Alcoholic Cirrhosis of Liver
Alzheimer's Disease
Amyloidosis
Amyotropic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS)
Aneurysms
Angina
Angioplasty
Ankylosing Spondylitis
Ankylosis
Anticoagulant Medications
Aortic Insufficiency
Aortic or Mitral Valve Replacement
Aortic Stenosis
Aplastic Anemia
Arrhythmia
Arterial Embolism, Thrombosis (clot)
Arterial Occlusion
Arteriosclerosis Obliterans (A.S.O.)
Arteriovenous Malformation
Arthritis
Arthritis, Rheumatoid
Artificial Joints
Artificial Valves
Asbestos Exposure (Asbestosis)
Asthma
Atherosclerosis Obliterans
Atherosclerosis Thrombotic Disease
Atrial Fibrillation (chronic)
Autism (infantile)


Banti's Disease (Liver Disorder)
Biliary Cirrhosis
Bipolar Disorders
Blastomycosis
Brain Damage (Organic)
Bright's Disease (Glomerulonephritis)
Bronchiectasis
Buerger's Disease (Thromboangitis)
Bulimia
Burkitt's Tumor


Cancer (Breast or Prostate)
Carcinoid Syndrome
Cardiac Bypass
Cardiomyopathy
Cardiospasm, Achalasia
Cerebral Palsy (Infantile)
Charcot-Marie Tooth Disease
Chrohn's Disease
Chronic Glomerulonephritis
Chronic Hepatitis
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD)
Chronic Pulmonary Heart Disease
Cirrhosis of the Liver
Coarctation of the Aorta
Colostomy
Congestive Heart Failure
Cooley's Anemia
Cor Pulmonale
Coronary Artery Disease (C.A.D.)
Coronary Heart Disease (C.H.D.)
Crohn's Disease (Ulcerative Colitis)
Curvature of the Spine
Cushing's Syndrome
Cystic Fibrosis
Cystic Kidney Disease
Cystic Lung Disease


Dementia
Dentofacial Function Abnormalities
Dermatomyositis
Diabetes (all types)
Disorders of Autonomic Nervous System
Domestic Violence
Down Syndrome
Drug Abuse Illegal
Drug Abuse Prescription
Drug Psychosis


Electroconvulsive Therapy
Emphysema
Encephalopathy
Enlarged Liver
Esophageal Varices


Fabry Disease
Factor VIII or IX Deficiency
Fatty Liver
Fertility Treatment


Gastric Bypass/ Stapling
Gilles De La Tourette's Syndrome
Glomerulonephritis, Chronic
Goodpasture's Syndrome
Guillain Barre's Syndrome

Heart and/or Lung Transplants
Heart attack
Hemiplegia
Hemochromatosis
Hemolytic Anemia
Hemophilia A or B
Henoch's Purpura
Hepatitis C, G, Non-a, Non-B
Hepatomegaly
Herniated Intervertebral Disc
HIV
Hodgkin's Disease
Huntington's Chorea
Hydrocephalus
Hydronephrosis
Hypersplenism
Hyperthyroidism


Idiopathic Thrombocytopenia Purpura (ITP)
Immunodeficiency Disorder
Infertility Treatment
Insulin Use
Internal Cardiac Defibrillator
Ischemic Heart Disease


Kaposi's Sarcoma
Kidney Failure
Kidney: Polycystic Kidneys
Kidney Transplant
Klinefelter's Syndrome (Gonadal Dysgenesis)


Legionella Pneumophilia
Leukemia
Leukoencephalopathy
Lipisosis (Neiman-Pick Disease)
Liver Failure
Liver Transplant
Lou Gehrig's Disease
Lung Transplant
Lupus, systemic (SLE)
Lymphadenitis
Lymphoma


Malignant Melanoma
Marfan's syndrome
Medullary Sponge Kidney
Mitral Insufficiency
Mitral Stenosis
Mixed Connective Tissue Disease
Morbid Obesity
Multicystic Kidneys
Multiple Myeloma
Multiple Sclerosis
Muscular Dystrophy
Myasthenia Gravis
Myelopathy
Myocardial Infarction (M.I.)
Myocardial Ischemia (M.I.)


Nephritis
Nephrotic Syndrome
Neurofibromatosis (Von Recklinghausen's)
Neiman Pick Disease (Lipidosis)
Neuropathy, Inflammatory Toxic


Obesity
Occlusion of Cerebral Arteries
Organ Transplant
Organic Brain Syndrome
Organic Heart Murmur
Osteitis Deformans (Paget's Disease)


Pacemakers
Paget's Disease
Pancreatitis
Paralysis
Paranoid Disorder
Paraplegia
Parkinson's Disease
Pemphigus
Peripheral Occlusive Arterial Disease (P.O.A.D.)
Peripheral Vascular Disease
Peroneal Peripheral Neuropathy
Personality Disorders
Pituitary Dwarfism
Pneumoconiosis
Pneumocystitis Carinii Pneumonia (P.C.P.)
Polio Myelitis
Polyarteritis Nodosa
Polycystic Kidney Disease
Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome
Polycythemia
Polymyositis
Polyneuropathy
Porphyria
Pregnancy
Premature Ventricular Contractions
Primary Pulmonary Hypertension
Prostate Disorder
Psoriatic Arthropathy
Psychosis
Pulmonary Alveolar Proteinosis
Pulmonary Fibrosis
Pulmonary Heart Disease
Pulmonary Hypertension
Pulmonary Insufficiency
Pulmonary Stenosis
Pyloric Stenosis

Quadraplegia


Rape
Raynaud's Syndrome
Renal Failure
Renal Hypertension
Rheumatic Heart Disease
Rheumatoid Arthritis


Sarcoidosis
Sarcoma
Schizo Disorders (bipolar or depressive)
Schizophrenia
Scleroderma
Seizures (recent)
Senile Syndrome
Serious Congenital Abnormalities
Severe Childhood or Adolescent Disorders
Sick Sinus Syndrome
Sickle Cell Anemia Disease
Silicosis
Sjogren's Disease
Sleep Apnea
Smoking (long term, other factors)
Spina Bifida
Spinocerebellar Disease
Spondylitis
Stroke (indeterminate, ischemic)
Suicide attempt
Syndrome X
Systemic Lupus Erythematosus
Syringomyelia


Tabes Dorsalis
Takayasu's Disease
Tay-Sach's Disease (Cerebral Lipidosis)
Temporal Arteritis
Testicular Dysfunction
Tetrology of Fallot
Thalassemia Major (Mediterranean Anemia)
Thromboangitis
Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia Purpura
TIA
Too fat
Too thin
Tourette's Syndrome
Tracheostomy
Transient Organic Psychosis
Transient Ischemic Attack
Transplants
Transsexualism
Tricuspid Insufficiency
Tricuspid Stenosis
Trisomy 21 Syndrome
Tuberculosis
Turner's Syndrome


Ulcerative Colitis
Undiagnosed Symptoms (Kaiser)
Uremia


Valve Replacement
Ventricular Arrhythmias
Ventricular Septal Defect
Von Recklinghausen's Disease
Von Willebrand's Disease (hemophilia)


Wegner's Granulomatosis
Werlhof's Disease

This composite list is by no means exhaustive. These are just SOME of the reasons for denial of medical coverage.
It was compiled from conditions listed by Anthem (Blue Cross), Assurant, CIGNA, and Kaiser.

Domestic violence as pre-existing condition? 8 states still allow it | McClatchy

WASHINGTON -- Eight states and the District of Columbia don't have laws that specifically bar insurance companies from using domestic violence as a pre-existing condition to deny health coverage, according to a study from the National Women's Law Center.

Pregnant without health coverage - iVillage

Pregnancy complicates health insurance options. Federal law bars pregnancy from being considered a preexisting condition, which means if you change health plans while you're pregnant, your new insurer can't deny claims related to your pregnancy. But a variety of loopholes means pregnant women could still lack insurance coverage for their prenatal care if they don't do some careful planning.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of "buts" to HIPAA. For one thing, HIPAA doesn't apply to someone who previously had no health coverage at all and then gets into a group health plan through a new job. So if you had no insurance, got pregnant, then landed a new job with insurance, your new health plan would not have to immediately cover your pregnancy. You might have to sit out a preexisting condition waiting period, a period that could be longer than your pregnancy and in the meantime pay for your visits yourself.
Second, HIPAA applies only to group health plans. So if you have individual insurance and are pregnant, then buy group health insurance, you again could be subject to a preexisting condition waiting period. Likewise, if you move from one individual health plan to another individual health plan, you might not get pregnancy coverage at all. You might have to sit out a waiting period, or if you are offered insurance that covers your pregnancy, you might find it's very expensive.

Think about the number of Americans with the following conditions alone:

Cancer, Diabetes, Asthma, Heart Problems, Kidney Problems, Lung Problems, and the big one (no pun intended) Obesity. At this point, should be surprised that only 50% of Americans would be classified with a "preexisting condition."

 

[Madeline]

WASHINGTON -- As many as 129 million Americans under age 65 have medical problems that are red flags for health insurers, according to an analysis that marks the government's first attempt to quantify the number of people at risk of being rejected by insurance companies or paying more for coverage.

'Pre-existing conditions' exist in up to half of Americans under 65 | cleveland.com

 

[rdean]

It's even worse than that. Suppose you have "family coverage" and dad get's cancer. Because junior has "acne", the entire family could be dropped.

This is what Republicans want to go back to, so they can protect insurance companies who are only middle men whose entire income is skimming money off the insurance policies of millions of middle class Americans.

Hilarious is many, if not most Republicans, don't even had health care.

 

[jillian]

i just love pregnancy being a pre-existing condition.

but insurance companies are our friends.

 

[Modbert]

i just love pregnancy being a pre-existing condition.

but insurance companies are our friends.

And the only reason why it isn't used as a pre-existing condition more often is because of a federal law.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Obama doesn't make up the preexisting conditions folks, insurance companies do.

Pre-Existing Medical Conditions - Summary List

Abnormal PAP Smear
Achalasia, Cardiospasm
Acne
Acromegaly
Acute Poliomyelitis
ADD
Addison's Disease
Adrenal Insufficiency
AIDS
Alcohol Abuser
Alcoholic Cirrhosis of Liver
Alzheimer's Disease
Amyloidosis
Amyotropic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS)
Aneurysms
Angina
Angioplasty
Ankylosing Spondylitis
Ankylosis
Anticoagulant Medications
Aortic Insufficiency
Aortic or Mitral Valve Replacement
Aortic Stenosis
Aplastic Anemia
Arrhythmia
Arterial Embolism, Thrombosis (clot)
Arterial Occlusion
Arteriosclerosis Obliterans (A.S.O.)
Arteriovenous Malformation
Arthritis
Arthritis, Rheumatoid
Artificial Joints
Artificial Valves
Asbestos Exposure (Asbestosis)
Asthma
Atherosclerosis Obliterans
Atherosclerosis Thrombotic Disease
Atrial Fibrillation (chronic)
Autism (infantile)


Banti's Disease (Liver Disorder)
Biliary Cirrhosis
Bipolar Disorders
Blastomycosis
Brain Damage (Organic)
Bright's Disease (Glomerulonephritis)
Bronchiectasis
Buerger's Disease (Thromboangitis)
Bulimia
Burkitt's Tumor


Cancer (Breast or Prostate)
Carcinoid Syndrome
Cardiac Bypass
Cardiomyopathy
Cardiospasm, Achalasia
Cerebral Palsy (Infantile)
Charcot-Marie Tooth Disease
Chrohn's Disease
Chronic Glomerulonephritis
Chronic Hepatitis
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD)
Chronic Pulmonary Heart Disease
Cirrhosis of the Liver
Coarctation of the Aorta
Colostomy
Congestive Heart Failure
Cooley's Anemia
Cor Pulmonale
Coronary Artery Disease (C.A.D.)
Coronary Heart Disease (C.H.D.)
Crohn's Disease (Ulcerative Colitis)
Curvature of the Spine
Cushing's Syndrome
Cystic Fibrosis
Cystic Kidney Disease
Cystic Lung Disease


Dementia
Dentofacial Function Abnormalities
Dermatomyositis
Diabetes (all types)
Disorders of Autonomic Nervous System
Domestic Violence
Down Syndrome
Drug Abuse Illegal
Drug Abuse Prescription
Drug Psychosis


Electroconvulsive Therapy
Emphysema
Encephalopathy
Enlarged Liver
Esophageal Varices


Fabry Disease
Factor VIII or IX Deficiency
Fatty Liver
Fertility Treatment


Gastric Bypass/ Stapling
Gilles De La Tourette's Syndrome
Glomerulonephritis, Chronic
Goodpasture's Syndrome
Guillain Barre's Syndrome

Heart and/or Lung Transplants
Heart attack
Hemiplegia
Hemochromatosis
Hemolytic Anemia
Hemophilia A or B
Henoch's Purpura
Hepatitis C, G, Non-a, Non-B
Hepatomegaly
Herniated Intervertebral Disc
HIV
Hodgkin's Disease
Huntington's Chorea
Hydrocephalus
Hydronephrosis
Hypersplenism
Hyperthyroidism


Idiopathic Thrombocytopenia Purpura (ITP)
Immunodeficiency Disorder
Infertility Treatment
Insulin Use
Internal Cardiac Defibrillator
Ischemic Heart Disease


Kaposi's Sarcoma
Kidney Failure
Kidney: Polycystic Kidneys
Kidney Transplant
Klinefelter's Syndrome (Gonadal Dysgenesis)


Legionella Pneumophilia
Leukemia
Leukoencephalopathy
Lipisosis (Neiman-Pick Disease)
Liver Failure
Liver Transplant
Lou Gehrig's Disease
Lung Transplant
Lupus, systemic (SLE)
Lymphadenitis
Lymphoma


Malignant Melanoma
Marfan's syndrome
Medullary Sponge Kidney
Mitral Insufficiency
Mitral Stenosis
Mixed Connective Tissue Disease
Morbid Obesity
Multicystic Kidneys
Multiple Myeloma
Multiple Sclerosis
Muscular Dystrophy
Myasthenia Gravis
Myelopathy
Myocardial Infarction (M.I.)
Myocardial Ischemia (M.I.)


Nephritis
Nephrotic Syndrome
Neurofibromatosis (Von Recklinghausen's)
Neiman Pick Disease (Lipidosis)
Neuropathy, Inflammatory Toxic


Obesity
Occlusion of Cerebral Arteries
Organ Transplant
Organic Brain Syndrome
Organic Heart Murmur
Osteitis Deformans (Paget's Disease)


Pacemakers
Paget's Disease
Pancreatitis
Paralysis
Paranoid Disorder
Paraplegia
Parkinson's Disease
Pemphigus
Peripheral Occlusive Arterial Disease (P.O.A.D.)
Peripheral Vascular Disease
Peroneal Peripheral Neuropathy
Personality Disorders
Pituitary Dwarfism
Pneumoconiosis
Pneumocystitis Carinii Pneumonia (P.C.P.)
Polio Myelitis
Polyarteritis Nodosa
Polycystic Kidney Disease
Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome
Polycythemia
Polymyositis
Polyneuropathy
Porphyria
Pregnancy
Premature Ventricular Contractions
Primary Pulmonary Hypertension
Prostate Disorder
Psoriatic Arthropathy
Psychosis
Pulmonary Alveolar Proteinosis
Pulmonary Fibrosis
Pulmonary Heart Disease
Pulmonary Hypertension
Pulmonary Insufficiency
Pulmonary Stenosis
Pyloric Stenosis

Domestic violence as pre-existing condition? 8 states still allow it | McClatchy



Pregnant without health coverage - iVillage

Pregnancy complicates health insurance options. Federal law bars pregnancy from being considered a preexisting condition, which means if you change health plans while you're pregnant, your new insurer can't deny claims related to your pregnancy. But a variety of loopholes means pregnant women could still lack insurance coverage for their prenatal care if they don't do some careful planning.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of "buts" to HIPAA. For one thing, HIPAA doesn't apply to someone who previously had no health coverage at all and then gets into a group health plan through a new job. So if you had no insurance, got pregnant, then landed a new job with insurance, your new health plan would not have to immediately cover your pregnancy. You might have to sit out a preexisting condition waiting period, a period that could be longer than your pregnancy and in the meantime pay for your visits yourself.
Second, HIPAA applies only to group health plans. So if you have individual insurance and are pregnant, then buy group health insurance, you again could be subject to a preexisting condition waiting period. Likewise, if you move from one individual health plan to another individual health plan, you might not get pregnancy coverage at all. You might have to sit out a waiting period, or if you are offered insurance that covers your pregnancy, you might find it's very expensive.

Think about the number of Americans with the following conditions alone:

Cancer, Diabetes, Asthma, Heart Problems, Kidney Problems, Lung Problems, and the big one (no pun intended) Obesity. At this point, should be surprised that only 50% of Americans would be classified with a "preexisting condition."

What numbers are people supposed to respond to? The 50 million numbers is about 19% of the US population, yet you also say that 50% of the population has a preexisting condition. It is a little confusing when the bullshit you post contradicts itself.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

It's even worse than that. Suppose you have "family coverage" and dad get's cancer. Because junior has "acne", the entire family could be dropped.

This is what Republicans want to go back to, so they can protect insurance companies who are only middle men whose entire income is skimming money off the insurance policies of millions of middle class Americans.

Hilarious is many, if not most Republicans, don't even had health care.

Bullshit.

 

[Modbert]

What numbers are people supposed to respond to? The 50 million numbers is about 19% of the US population, yet you also say that 50% of the population has a preexisting condition. It is a little confusing when the bullshit you post contradicts itself.

I'm saying that one shouldn't be surprised if 50% of the population has a preexisting condition.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...study-claims-million-pre-existing-conditions/

You're talking about the lowest number possible of the study between 50 million and 129 million Americans. You seem to think it's 50 million at the most. Nothing is being contradicted here.

The Department of Health and Human Services study, released Tuesday, concludes that somewhere between 50 million and 129 million non-elderly Americans have a pre-existing condition -- the kind of condition insurance companies can use to deny coverage. The study further found that 15-30 percent of people in good health are likely to develop such a condition within eight years.

 

[rdean]

Obama doesn't make up the preexisting conditions folks, insurance companies do.

Pre-Existing Medical Conditions - Summary List

Abnormal PAP Smear
Achalasia, Cardiospasm
Acne
Acromegaly
Acute Poliomyelitis
ADD
Addison's Disease
Adrenal Insufficiency
AIDS
Alcohol Abuser
Alcoholic Cirrhosis of Liver
Alzheimer's Disease
Amyloidosis
Amyotropic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS)
Aneurysms
Angina
Angioplasty
Ankylosing Spondylitis
Ankylosis
Anticoagulant Medications
Aortic Insufficiency
Aortic or Mitral Valve Replacement
Aortic Stenosis
Aplastic Anemia
Arrhythmia
Arterial Embolism, Thrombosis (clot)
Arterial Occlusion
Arteriosclerosis Obliterans (A.S.O.)
Arteriovenous Malformation
Arthritis
Arthritis, Rheumatoid
Artificial Joints
Artificial Valves
Asbestos Exposure (Asbestosis)
Asthma
Atherosclerosis Obliterans
Atherosclerosis Thrombotic Disease
Atrial Fibrillation (chronic)
Autism (infantile)


Banti's Disease (Liver Disorder)
Biliary Cirrhosis
Bipolar Disorders
Blastomycosis
Brain Damage (Organic)
Bright's Disease (Glomerulonephritis)
Bronchiectasis
Buerger's Disease (Thromboangitis)
Bulimia
Burkitt's Tumor


Cancer (Breast or Prostate)
Carcinoid Syndrome
Cardiac Bypass
Cardiomyopathy
Cardiospasm, Achalasia
Cerebral Palsy (Infantile)
Charcot-Marie Tooth Disease
Chrohn's Disease
Chronic Glomerulonephritis
Chronic Hepatitis
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD)
Chronic Pulmonary Heart Disease
Cirrhosis of the Liver
Coarctation of the Aorta
Colostomy
Congestive Heart Failure
Cooley's Anemia
Cor Pulmonale
Coronary Artery Disease (C.A.D.)
Coronary Heart Disease (C.H.D.)
Crohn's Disease (Ulcerative Colitis)
Curvature of the Spine
Cushing's Syndrome
Cystic Fibrosis
Cystic Kidney Disease
Cystic Lung Disease


Dementia
Dentofacial Function Abnormalities
Dermatomyositis
Diabetes (all types)
Disorders of Autonomic Nervous System
Domestic Violence
Down Syndrome
Drug Abuse Illegal
Drug Abuse Prescription
Drug Psychosis


Electroconvulsive Therapy
Emphysema
Encephalopathy
Enlarged Liver
Esophageal Varices


Fabry Disease
Factor VIII or IX Deficiency
Fatty Liver
Fertility Treatment


Gastric Bypass/ Stapling
Gilles De La Tourette's Syndrome
Glomerulonephritis, Chronic
Goodpasture's Syndrome
Guillain Barre's Syndrome

Domestic violence as pre-existing condition? 8 states still allow it | McClatchy



Pregnant without health coverage - iVillage

Unfortunately, there are a lot of "buts" to HIPAA. For one thing, HIPAA doesn't apply to someone who previously had no health coverage at all and then gets into a group health plan through a new job. So if you had no insurance, got pregnant, then landed a new job with insurance, your new health plan would not have to immediately cover your pregnancy. You might have to sit out a preexisting condition waiting period, a period that could be longer than your pregnancy and in the meantime pay for your visits yourself.
Second, HIPAA applies only to group health plans. So if you have individual insurance and are pregnant, then buy group health insurance, you again could be subject to a preexisting condition waiting period. Likewise, if you move from one individual health plan to another individual health plan, you might not get pregnancy coverage at all. You might have to sit out a waiting period, or if you are offered insurance that covers your pregnancy, you might find it's very expensive.

Think about the number of Americans with the following conditions alone:

Cancer, Diabetes, Asthma, Heart Problems, Kidney Problems, Lung Problems, and the big one (no pun intended) Obesity. At this point, should be surprised that only 50% of Americans would be classified with a "preexisting condition."

What numbers are people supposed to respond to? The 50 million numbers is about 19% of the US population, yet you also say that 50% of the population has a preexisting condition. It is a little confusing when the bullshit you post contradicts itself.

Dementia is listed. Some say half the country are Republicans. There you go.

 

[Mad Scientist]

If you Liberals were so worried about "pre existing conditions" like you say then why didn't you just pass a law banning that practice when you had both the House and Senate?

Because you wanted complete control over Health Care that's why. Shit, you fuckers didn't even read the bill you passed, (excuse me, DEEMED!)

 

[Modbert]

If you Liberals were so worried about "pre existing conditions" like you say then why didn't you just pass a law banning that practice when you had both the House and Senate?

Well looks like they did.

Seriously though, your post makes absolutely no sense and adds nothing to the discussion. The overall healthcare option that Liberals wanted was taken out of the discussion pretty quickly. Getting rid of something such as "pre-existing conditions" is something all Americans should be able to get behind. Not just Liberals or Conservatives.

 

[Greenbeard]

If you Liberals were so worried about "pre existing conditions" like you say then why didn't you just pass a law banning that practice when you had both the House and Senate?

Well looks like they did.

Somebody's a little behind the news...

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What numbers are people supposed to respond to? The 50 million numbers is about 19% of the US population, yet you also say that 50% of the population has a preexisting condition. It is a little confusing when the bullshit you post contradicts itself.

I'm saying that one shouldn't be surprised if 50% of the population has a preexisting condition.

Insurers Dismiss Administration Claims on Pre-Existing Conditions Barrier - FoxNews.com

You're talking about the lowest number possible of the study between 50 million and 129 million Americans. You seem to think it's 50 million at the most. Nothing is being contradicted here.

The Department of Health and Human Services study, released Tuesday, concludes that somewhere between 50 million and 129 million non-elderly Americans have a pre-existing condition -- the kind of condition insurance companies can use to deny coverage. The study further found that 15-30 percent of people in good health are likely to develop such a condition within eight years.

I am talking about HHS releasing a blatant piece of propaganda and you posting it like it is fact.

New report: 129 million Americans with a pre-existing condition could be denied coverage without new health reform law

When their own studies show that the number of people who are actually denied coverage is actually about 1% of the population.

Medical Expenditure Panel Survey PUF Codebook

Please, feel free to keep being a mouthpiece for the government, it keeps your credibility where I can ignore it. Or, if you actually want to think for yourself, you could do some rudimentary research and point out when people do things like this yourself.

My guess is that you prefer being a member of the young partisan hacks. If so, my advice to you is not to challenge me on the numbers ever again.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Obama doesn't make up the preexisting conditions folks, insurance companies do.

Pre-Existing Medical Conditions - Summary List





Domestic violence as pre-existing condition? 8 states still allow it | McClatchy



Pregnant without health coverage - iVillage

Think about the number of Americans with the following conditions alone:

Cancer, Diabetes, Asthma, Heart Problems, Kidney Problems, Lung Problems, and the big one (no pun intended) Obesity. At this point, should be surprised that only 50% of Americans would be classified with a "preexisting condition."

What numbers are people supposed to respond to? The 50 million numbers is about 19% of the US population, yet you also say that 50% of the population has a preexisting condition. It is a little confusing when the bullshit you post contradicts itself.

Dementia is listed. Some say half the country are Republicans. There you go.

Good point, that does prove the other half of the country is in need of psychiatric treatment.

 

[Modbert]

Somebody's a little behind the news...

Telegram isn't as fast as it use to be.

 

[Mad Scientist]

If you Liberals were so worried about "pre existing conditions" like you say then why didn't you just pass a law banning that practice when you had both the House and Senate?

Well looks like they did.

Somebody's a little behind the news...

No, I understand the entire bill includes that provision. But you control freaks wanted control over 1/6 of our economy and passed (excuse me DEEMED) ObamaCare. You couldn't just pass that provision could you? I mean, why fuck the people a little when you can fuck em alot right?

You overreached and is what led to the massive ass whuppin' you took in the mid terms.

 

[Modbert]

No, I understand the entire bill includes that provision. But you control freaks wanted control over 1/6 of our economy and passed (excuse me DEEMED) ObamaCare. You couldn't just pass that provision could you? I mean, why fuck the people a little when you can fuck em alot right?

You overreached and is what led to the massive ass whuppin' you took in the mid terms.

So, do you plan on talking about this rationally or are you going to act irrational? Just wondering.

 

[Mad Scientist]

No, I understand the entire bill includes that provision. But you control freaks wanted control over 1/6 of our economy and passed (excuse me DEEMED) ObamaCare. You couldn't just pass that provision could you? I mean, why fuck the people a little when you can fuck em alot right?

You overreached and is what led to the massive ass whuppin' you took in the mid terms.

So, do you plan on talking about this rationally or are you going to act irrational? Just wondering.

You gonna' read what I wrote or just imagine something different. Just wondering.

 

[Modbert]

You gonna' read what I wrote or just imagine something different. Just wondering.

Well you're not acting very rationally. This bill doesn't give control over 1/6 of our economy to anyone for starters. Another thing, turns out (get this) that pre-existing conditions isn't the only thing wrong with our healthcare system.

I know this may come as a shock to you. I hope you're sitting as you read thisl.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No, I understand the entire bill includes that provision. But you control freaks wanted control over 1/6 of our economy and passed (excuse me DEEMED) ObamaCare. You couldn't just pass that provision could you? I mean, why fuck the people a little when you can fuck em alot right?

You overreached and is what led to the massive ass whuppin' you took in the mid terms.

So, do you plan on talking about this rationally or are you going to act irrational? Just wondering.

Any reason he shouldn't be acting irrational when you refuse to address the points that prove the entire story is based on a false assumption?