Why would a God even need a hell?

[LittleNipper]

God needs a hell otherwise nobody pays up at church.

Such ignorance. Hell was created for the Devil and the angels who revolted against God. Any humans who follow Satan will also go there. Not because they didn't 'pay up' but because they placed themselves above their Creator and chose evil.

God gave us free choice. To punish anyone after exercising such free choice that you gave them is the height of doucheness.

God does not punish anyone for exercising free choice. He does so because they made the WRONG choice. We disobeyed God. He has every right to punish us. On the other hand, He also gave us a way out. He sent His only Son to die for us. All we have to do is accept His free gift of Salvation. Most won't do so because they are too proud. They think they can earn their way to Heaven. These people are fools.

So god gives me free choice but if I choose the path he doesn't like, I burn in hell forever? That's not a choice, that's a massive douche-bag move.

NO! That isn't what I said. You don't want to listen to GOD. You don't want to be with God. You have this one life to make up your mind. Hell is the only place without GOD's influence. So that is where one will go forever as a matter of personal choice. Don't blame GOD for one's choice. GOD made Himself subservient and suffered unspeakable ridicule, humiliation, torture, and separation from the Father and the Holy Spirit so that you'd have an alternative. Anything else is YOUR CHOICE!

 

[LittleNipper]

GOD doesn't need hell. Those that choose to serve Satan do so that they can be forever separated from GOD. That is the ultimate goal of the Unsaved to live apart from GOD. Hell fulfills that desire for all eternity and then some.

Got any proof?

It's in the Bible. you might want to read it, rather than acting the fool.

The bible is a book written by men, and the big things in it can't be proven. Got anything for real?

If you do not see/comprehend the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today ---- then I'm very sorry for your blindness. In 50 years, we have gone from a country at least attempting to respect GOD to a bunch of pagan jerks with tattoos fighting over statuary, redefining marriage, and cutting crosses off of campus chapels, and sentencing child murderers to 10 years in prison (8.5 with "good" behavior) ----- yet we ruin the livelihood of honest people who do not wish to capitulate to the whims of sexual perversion/insanity. And we have the audacity to label such "freedom". We the people are free to be evil, and that is about it.
And yet Israel has risen from the grave and is at the center of world developments and unrest. The Bible has been proven accurate once again!

 

[Mudda]

GOD doesn't need hell. Those that choose to serve Satan do so that they can be forever separated from GOD. That is the ultimate goal of the Unsaved to live apart from GOD. Hell fulfills that desire for all eternity and then some.

Got any proof?

It's in the Bible. you might want to read it, rather than acting the fool.

The bible is a book written by men, and the big things in it can't be proven. Got anything for real?

If you do not see/comprehend the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today ---- then I'm very sorry for your blindness. In 50 years, we have gone from a country at least attempting to respect GOD to a bunch of pagan jerks with tattoos fighting over statuary, redefining marriage, and cutting crosses off of campus chapels, and sentencing child murderers to 10 years in prison (8.5 with "good" behavior) ----- yet we ruin the livelihood of honest people who do not wish to capitulate to the whims of sexual perversion/insanity. And we have the audacity to label such "freedom". We the people are free to be evil, and that is about it.
And yet Israel has risen from the grave and is at the center of world developments and unrest. The Bible has been proven accurate once again!

Trump is "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today"?

 

[ABikerSailor]

GOD doesn't need hell. Those that choose to serve Satan do so that they can be forever separated from GOD. That is the ultimate goal of the Unsaved to live apart from GOD. Hell fulfills that desire for all eternity and then some.

Got any proof?

It's in the Bible. you might want to read it, rather than acting the fool.

The bible is a book written by men, and the big things in it can't be proven. Got anything for real?

If you do not see/comprehend the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today ---- then I'm very sorry for your blindness. In 50 years, we have gone from a country at least attempting to respect GOD to a bunch of pagan jerks with tattoos fighting over statuary, redefining marriage, and cutting crosses off of campus chapels, and sentencing child murderers to 10 years in prison (8.5 with "good" behavior) ----- yet we ruin the livelihood of honest people who do not wish to capitulate to the whims of sexual perversion/insanity. And we have the audacity to label such "freedom". We the people are free to be evil, and that is about it.
And yet Israel has risen from the grave and is at the center of world developments and unrest. The Bible has been proven accurate once again!

Trump is "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today"?

Sorry Mudda, but they may have a point about Trump being "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today" in that maybe Trump is the one who will be the anti Christ and plunge the world into 7 years of tribulation.

 

[LittleNipper]

GOD doesn't need hell. Those that choose to serve Satan do so that they can be forever separated from GOD. That is the ultimate goal of the Unsaved to live apart from GOD. Hell fulfills that desire for all eternity and then some.

Got any proof?

It's in the Bible. you might want to read it, rather than acting the fool.

The bible is a book written by men, and the big things in it can't be proven. Got anything for real?

If you do not see/comprehend the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today ---- then I'm very sorry for your blindness. In 50 years, we have gone from a country at least attempting to respect GOD to a bunch of pagan jerks with tattoos fighting over statuary, redefining marriage, and cutting crosses off of campus chapels, and sentencing child murderers to 10 years in prison (8.5 with "good" behavior) ----- yet we ruin the livelihood of honest people who do not wish to capitulate to the whims of sexual perversion/insanity. And we have the audacity to label such "freedom". We the people are free to be evil, and that is about it.
And yet Israel has risen from the grave and is at the center of world developments and unrest. The Bible has been proven accurate once again!

Trump is "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today"?

 

[RWNJ]

Got any proof?

It's in the Bible. you might want to read it, rather than acting the fool.

The bible is a book written by men, and the big things in it can't be proven. Got anything for real?

If you do not see/comprehend the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today ---- then I'm very sorry for your blindness. In 50 years, we have gone from a country at least attempting to respect GOD to a bunch of pagan jerks with tattoos fighting over statuary, redefining marriage, and cutting crosses off of campus chapels, and sentencing child murderers to 10 years in prison (8.5 with "good" behavior) ----- yet we ruin the livelihood of honest people who do not wish to capitulate to the whims of sexual perversion/insanity. And we have the audacity to label such "freedom". We the people are free to be evil, and that is about it.
And yet Israel has risen from the grave and is at the center of world developments and unrest. The Bible has been proven accurate once again!

Trump is "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today"?

Sorry Mudda, but they may have a point about Trump being "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today" in that maybe Trump is the one who will be the anti Christ and plunge the world into 7 years of tribulation.

That's pretty funny. Scripture says that the Anti-Christ will be universally accepted by everyone. Sorry, but Trump just doesn't fit the bill. Or have you not been paying attention to the news?

 

[ABikerSailor]

It's in the Bible. you might want to read it, rather than acting the fool.

The bible is a book written by men, and the big things in it can't be proven. Got anything for real?

If you do not see/comprehend the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today ---- then I'm very sorry for your blindness. In 50 years, we have gone from a country at least attempting to respect GOD to a bunch of pagan jerks with tattoos fighting over statuary, redefining marriage, and cutting crosses off of campus chapels, and sentencing child murderers to 10 years in prison (8.5 with "good" behavior) ----- yet we ruin the livelihood of honest people who do not wish to capitulate to the whims of sexual perversion/insanity. And we have the audacity to label such "freedom". We the people are free to be evil, and that is about it.
And yet Israel has risen from the grave and is at the center of world developments and unrest. The Bible has been proven accurate once again!

Trump is "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today"?

Sorry Mudda, but they may have a point about Trump being "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today" in that maybe Trump is the one who will be the anti Christ and plunge the world into 7 years of tribulation.

That's pretty funny. Scripture says that the Anti-Christ will be universally accepted by everyone. Sorry, but Trump just doesn't fit the bill. Or have you not been paying attention to the news?

Give it time. Trump already has unquestioning loyalty from his supporters, you just gotta give them time to spread the stupid around and infect the rest of the population.

Those who are against Trump are against the anti Christ, so therefore if you are against Trump, you are for Christ.

 

[RWNJ]

The bible is a book written by men, and the big things in it can't be proven. Got anything for real?

If you do not see/comprehend the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today ---- then I'm very sorry for your blindness. In 50 years, we have gone from a country at least attempting to respect GOD to a bunch of pagan jerks with tattoos fighting over statuary, redefining marriage, and cutting crosses off of campus chapels, and sentencing child murderers to 10 years in prison (8.5 with "good" behavior) ----- yet we ruin the livelihood of honest people who do not wish to capitulate to the whims of sexual perversion/insanity. And we have the audacity to label such "freedom". We the people are free to be evil, and that is about it.
And yet Israel has risen from the grave and is at the center of world developments and unrest. The Bible has been proven accurate once again!

Trump is "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today"?

Sorry Mudda, but they may have a point about Trump being "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today" in that maybe Trump is the one who will be the anti Christ and plunge the world into 7 years of tribulation.

That's pretty funny. Scripture says that the Anti-Christ will be universally accepted by everyone. Sorry, but Trump just doesn't fit the bill. Or have you not been paying attention to the news?

Give it time. Trump already has unquestioning loyalty from his supporters, you just gotta give them time to spread the stupid around and infect the rest of the population.

Those who are against Trump are against the anti Christ, so therefore if you are against Trump, you are for Christ.

What makes you think Trump is the Anti-Christ?

 

[Taz]

It's in the Bible. you might want to read it, rather than acting the fool.

The bible is a book written by men, and the big things in it can't be proven. Got anything for real?

If you do not see/comprehend the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today ---- then I'm very sorry for your blindness. In 50 years, we have gone from a country at least attempting to respect GOD to a bunch of pagan jerks with tattoos fighting over statuary, redefining marriage, and cutting crosses off of campus chapels, and sentencing child murderers to 10 years in prison (8.5 with "good" behavior) ----- yet we ruin the livelihood of honest people who do not wish to capitulate to the whims of sexual perversion/insanity. And we have the audacity to label such "freedom". We the people are free to be evil, and that is about it.
And yet Israel has risen from the grave and is at the center of world developments and unrest. The Bible has been proven accurate once again!

Trump is "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today"?

Sorry Mudda, but they may have a point about Trump being "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today" in that maybe Trump is the one who will be the anti Christ and plunge the world into 7 years of tribulation.

That's pretty funny. Scripture says that the Anti-Christ will be universally accepted by everyone. Sorry, but Trump just doesn't fit the bill. Or have you not been paying attention to the news?

How about the Pope? Everyone accepts the Pope as the Pope.

 

[Bonzi]

How about the Pope? Everyone accepts the Pope as the Pope.

I don't. I think he's a cult leader

 

[Taz]

How about the Pope? Everyone accepts the Pope as the Pope.

I don't. I think he's a cult leader

Sure, but you accept him as the Pope, i.e. the head of that "cult".

 

[ABikerSailor]

If you do not see/comprehend the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today ---- then I'm very sorry for your blindness. In 50 years, we have gone from a country at least attempting to respect GOD to a bunch of pagan jerks with tattoos fighting over statuary, redefining marriage, and cutting crosses off of campus chapels, and sentencing child murderers to 10 years in prison (8.5 with "good" behavior) ----- yet we ruin the livelihood of honest people who do not wish to capitulate to the whims of sexual perversion/insanity. And we have the audacity to label such "freedom". We the people are free to be evil, and that is about it.
And yet Israel has risen from the grave and is at the center of world developments and unrest. The Bible has been proven accurate once again!

Trump is "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today"?

Sorry Mudda, but they may have a point about Trump being "the most obvious fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening today" in that maybe Trump is the one who will be the anti Christ and plunge the world into 7 years of tribulation.

That's pretty funny. Scripture says that the Anti-Christ will be universally accepted by everyone. Sorry, but Trump just doesn't fit the bill. Or have you not been paying attention to the news?

Give it time. Trump already has unquestioning loyalty from his supporters, you just gotta give them time to spread the stupid around and infect the rest of the population.

Those who are against Trump are against the anti Christ, so therefore if you are against Trump, you are for Christ.

What makes you think Trump is the Anti-Christ?

Because he seems hell bent on profiting from the presidency while destroying the planet. Wanna talk about his views of the environment and all the regulations that hes' rolled back? How about Russia? Wanna talk about how he's itching for a war with N. Korea? How about putting more troops in Afghanistan?

Obama did much less, and the conservatives were calling him the anti Christ from way early in his presidency. Just trying to return the favor.

 

[Bezukhov]

So when did God create Hell? Before or after Adam and Eve ate that fruit?

 

[Mickiel]

So when did God create Hell? Before or after Adam and Eve ate that fruit?

God never created any hell; in the bible , hell simply means " The Grave", a hole in the ground for dead bodies. That's it, plain and simple.

 

[hadit]

So when did God create Hell? Before or after Adam and Eve ate that fruit?

Before. It wasn't originally intended for human occupation. Matthew 25:41.


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[hadit]

So when did God create Hell? Before or after Adam and Eve ate that fruit?

God never created any hell; in the bible , hell simply means " The Grave", a hole in the ground for dead bodies. That's it, plain and simple.

You have to ignore Scripture to maintain that.


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[Mickiel]

So when did God create Hell? Before or after Adam and Eve ate that fruit?

God never created any hell; in the bible , hell simply means " The Grave", a hole in the ground for dead bodies. That's it, plain and simple.

You have to ignore Scripture to maintain that.


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Nothing like the Christian hell was even mentioned or suggested to Adam, Eve, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Cain , not even the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. There is no mention of the creation of the Christian version of hell in the New Testament , or the purpose of it. Its insanity written on ink and smears the reputation of God's total forgiveness and purpose for all humanity.

 

[Bezukhov]

So when did God create Hell? Before or after Adam and Eve ate that fruit?

God never created any hell; in the bible , hell simply means " The Grave", a hole in the ground for dead bodies. That's it, plain and simple.

I agree. I want to hear from those who follow the traditional view of Hell. Thank you for your thoughts.

 

[Bezukhov]

So when did God create Hell? Before or after Adam and Eve ate that fruit?

Before. It wasn't originally intended for human occupation. Matthew 25:41.


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So this God changed His mind? He said: "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.'

So God decided that death was too god for them? Maybe He thought watching them suffer for an eternity was much more entertaining, and would give Him a massive stffy?

 

[hadit]

So when did God create Hell? Before or after Adam and Eve ate that fruit?

God never created any hell; in the bible , hell simply means " The Grave", a hole in the ground for dead bodies. That's it, plain and simple.

You have to ignore Scripture to maintain that.


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Nothing like the Christian hell was even mentioned or suggested to Adam, Eve, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Cain , not even the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. There is no mention of the creation of the Christian version of hell in the New Testament , or the purpose of it. Its insanity written on ink and smears the reputation of God's total forgiveness and purpose for all humanity.

You have to totally ignore what Jesus said to maintain that.