Why WI Collective Bargaining Had To Go

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Collective bargaining, which is helping to bankrupt the state, allows unions to strong arm outrageous concessions from the government that no private sector employee could hope for. These include:

1) Paying retirees $10,000 a year for doing no work.

2) Paying employees $6,000 a year just to carry a pager.

3) Free Viagra.

4) Reinstating an employee caught watching porn in the office.

A longer list of usurious collectively-bargained benefits:

Strange But True Provisions of Collective Bargaining

It's no wonder that Wisconsin taxpayers, earning substantially less on average than state employees, but who unions insist must be taxed to pay for state workers' extravagant compensation, voted conservatives like Governor Walker into office with a mandate to restore the balance between public and private sector pay.
 
Someone else on this board corrected my line of thinking on this recently. While the unions do in fact make outlandish demands, it is those who agree to such demands that need to carry the bulk of the blame. GM for instance. In WI, it appears maybe someone has finally said "no more", and it has been a LONG time coming, IMHO.
 
Someone else on this board corrected my line of thinking on this recently. While the unions do in fact make outlandish demands, it is those who agree to such demands that need to carry the bulk of the blame. GM for instance. In WI, it appears maybe someone has finally said "no more", and it has been a LONG time coming, IMHO.

You got that right Yank. OH, Ind and other States are following suite. CC in NJ is giving it his all as well.

Bout damned time.

I'm sure NY and Cali and others who are drowing in Union bargains wish they could do the same.
 
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$833 a month is all they get for retirement and now the Republicans have taken that away?

The war on teachers continues...how sad.
 
I think, as far as teachers go, they actually make 60 percent of whatever their average salary was for their last 3 years of work. So so sad.
 
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I think, as far as teachers go, they actually make 60 percent of whatever their average salary was for their last 3 years of work. So so sad.

I'm a former teacher and that is about right. My pension was supposed to be for the rest of my life and my state just put a 30 year limit to it. I have used 10 years and have 20 years left. That will put me at 83 since I am on disability and then I'm done. What do I do then? No Social Security for me! Future Homeless One.
 
I think, as far as teachers go, they actually make 60 percent of whatever their average salary was for their last 3 years of work. So so sad.

I'm a former teacher and that is about right. My pension was supposed to be for the rest of my life and my state just put a 30 year limit to it. I have used 10 years and have 20 years left. That will put me at 83 since I am on disability and then I'm done. What do I do then? No Social Security for me! Future Homeless One.

They don't care if you end up on the street, you know.
 
I think, as far as teachers go, they actually make 60 percent of whatever their average salary was for their last 3 years of work. So so sad.

I'm a former teacher and that is about right. My pension was supposed to be for the rest of my life and my state just put a 30 year limit to it. I have used 10 years and have 20 years left. That will put me at 83 since I am on disability and then I'm done. What do I do then? No Social Security for me! Future Homeless One.

The average life expectancy in the US is 78.4, so you should be okay.
 
I think, as far as teachers go, they actually make 60 percent of whatever their average salary was for their last 3 years of work. So so sad.

I'm a former teacher and that is about right. My pension was supposed to be for the rest of my life and my state just put a 30 year limit to it. I have used 10 years and have 20 years left. That will put me at 83 since I am on disability and then I'm done. What do I do then? No Social Security for me! Future Homeless One.

The average life expectancy in the US is 78.4, so you should be okay.

And if not....cat food is cheaper than real tuna.
 
I think, as far as teachers go, they actually make 60 percent of whatever their average salary was for their last 3 years of work. So so sad.

I'm a former teacher and that is about right. My pension was supposed to be for the rest of my life and my state just put a 30 year limit to it. I have used 10 years and have 20 years left. That will put me at 83 since I am on disability and then I'm done. What do I do then? No Social Security for me! Future Homeless One.
Maybe you could sue them for breach of contract.
 
Collective bargaining, which is helping to bankrupt the state, allows unions to strong arm outrageous concessions from the government that no private sector employee could hope for. These include:

1) Paying retirees $10,000 a year for doing no work.

2) Paying employees $6,000 a year just to carry a pager.

3) Free Viagra.

4) Reinstating an employee caught watching porn in the office.

A longer list of usurious collectively-bargained benefits:

Strange But True Provisions of Collective Bargaining

It's no wonder that Wisconsin taxpayers, earning substantially less on average than state employees, but who unions insist must be taxed to pay for state workers' extravagant compensation, voted conservatives like Governor Walker into office with a mandate to restore the balance between public and private sector pay.


You fail to mention that the average state employee has a higher level of education than the average WI resident. When you control for education level, state employees actually make LESS than their counterparts in the private sector. Any wonder the unions aren't taking this lying down?
 
I think, as far as teachers go, they actually make 60 percent of whatever their average salary was for their last 3 years of work. So so sad.

I'm a former teacher and that is about right. My pension was supposed to be for the rest of my life and my state just put a 30 year limit to it. I have used 10 years and have 20 years left. That will put me at 83 since I am on disability and then I'm done. What do I do then? No Social Security for me! Future Homeless One.

Well hopefully you are investing some of that money that you are continuing to get. Also you were able to retire at age 53 then?
 
Collective bargaining, which is helping to bankrupt the state, allows unions to strong arm outrageous concessions from the government that no private sector employee could hope for. These include:

1) Paying retirees $10,000 a year for doing no work.

2) Paying employees $6,000 a year just to carry a pager.

3) Free Viagra.

4) Reinstating an employee caught watching porn in the office.

A longer list of usurious collectively-bargained benefits:

Strange But True Provisions of Collective Bargaining

It's no wonder that Wisconsin taxpayers, earning substantially less on average than state employees, but who unions insist must be taxed to pay for state workers' extravagant compensation, voted conservatives like Governor Walker into office with a mandate to restore the balance between public and private sector pay.


You fail to mention that the average state employee has a higher level of education than the average WI resident. When you control for education level, state employees actually make LESS than their counterparts in the private sector. Any wonder the unions aren't taking this lying down?

Have you ever worked in a State agency? I did some contracting work for a State Agency years ago and just had to laugh. If you're close to the exit at 4:30 p.m., you'd better get out of the way so you don't get trampled by the 'employees' on their way out. And the 2-3 hour lunches are brutal! One lady played games on her computer all day. No joke. And then there were a group of people who would arrive at 8:30 a.m. every morning, clock in and spend 1-2 hours in the cafeteria eating breakfasts. They don't get paid much because most don't do much. Only about 10% of the workers seemed to be worth a damn.
 
Collective bargaining, which is helping to bankrupt the state, allows unions to strong arm outrageous concessions from the government that no private sector employee could hope for. These include:

1) Paying retirees $10,000 a year for doing no work.

2) Paying employees $6,000 a year just to carry a pager.

3) Free Viagra.

4) Reinstating an employee caught watching porn in the office.

A longer list of usurious collectively-bargained benefits:

Strange But True Provisions of Collective Bargaining

It's no wonder that Wisconsin taxpayers, earning substantially less on average than state employees, but who unions insist must be taxed to pay for state workers' extravagant compensation, voted conservatives like Governor Walker into office with a mandate to restore the balance between public and private sector pay.


You fail to mention that the average state employee has a higher level of education than the average WI resident. When you control for education level, state employees actually make LESS than their counterparts in the private sector. Any wonder the unions aren't taking this lying down?

Not when you factor in the lucrative benefits package they get which handily surpasses the private sector.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter...siness-news-eric-bolling-says-wisconsin-teac/
 

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