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Jumped On You,IM2 said:You guys always have that one example of blacks doing something to you. But I had to fight whites from k-12 who thought they had the right to jump me because I was black. Then you go to college and have to fight white boys from rural towns who think they get to jump on you because they are superior and I must know my place. And if you are defending yourself here comes the police to handcuff you even if you didn't start the fight. So why go through all that you said at the beginning and just say what you said at the end.
And Mob BEAT You ??
I'm Calling Bull-Shit On This Entire Post
Your Credibility Just Went Through The Floor
On Just This One Lie
Glad I Saw It...
I'm The Same Age As You
And Went To Some Predominately Black Schools
Blacks Have It Far Better In White Schools
Than Whites Will Ever Have It In Black Schools
Because Of Bigoted Blacks Like YOU
My daughter was raised in Louisiana. Her schools had a lot of black students. Many of them harassed her throughout her entire educational years. She was small for her age and was kind to everyone. So it isn't a single incident that happened to her. To this day, she does not judge people by their race.You guys always have that one example of blacks doing something to you. But I had to fight whites from k-12 who thought they had the right to jump me because I was black. Then you go to college and have to fight white boys from rural towns who think they get to jump on you because they are superior and I must know my place. And if you are defending yourself here comes the police to handcuff you even if you didn't start the fight. So why go through all that you said at the beginning and just say what you said at the end.So I'm a white guy. Just going off recent experience, yesterday I watched Blackkklansman in a Portland theater and it was hard to watch, mainly because I noticed I had to stop myself from laughing or smiling at certain parts that were really f'ed up. My impression was that that was the question the movie was putting to white people: "So, did you think it was funny? Did you like it?" Nothing was funny about that movie and yet it was making me realize that whether I want it there or not, like most white people, I've got a little racist living inside me.
There were a few black people in the theater and there was one black guy in the back who was laughing throughout the movie, especially at the racist scenes. Eventually someone shushed him and he blew up, "Don't you f'ing tell me to shut up! They keep saying it over and over, "N****r this! N****r that! N*****r! N****r! N****r! F*** this movie! F*** all you white mother-*******!"
He kept shouting and hitting the wall until an usher made him leave the theater, and after the movie the usher started apologizing to people leaving for the interruption. I told him I don't think he should be apologizing, and that while I get what he's saying, there's a bigger issue going on than just "he interrupted the movie." I said I don't think that was a movie you're meant to enjoy and I was glad that guy had been there.
So the friends I was with said, "I don't get why he got so mad." and in truth, I don't think I get it either, but what I do think I get if nothing else is this: That guy might have seemed angry to some people, but all I heard was someone really, really hurt. Like, beyond hurt.
I know a bit about pain - I tried to kill myself when I was a teenager; like, seriously tried to kill myself, with a note and everything and wound up in the hospital. And I'm a pretty sensitive guy. And I'm saying, I'm not sure even in my worst moments I have ever been as upset as that guy sounded to me. He didn't seem crazy - up until the moment some one told him to be quiet he sounded like a normal guy, and a normal person doesn't get that upset, they just don't.
And I've heard that kind of hurt from a lot of black people I've known or met, something deep, something carnal, and it's not about them - it's about white people. Not just the out-in-the-open racists but white people everywhere, esp. in the U.S., who won't acknowledge that something really twisted and sick is going on in this world and black people have been taking the brunt of it for a long time.
White people like to talk about equivalence a lot: "Well, maybe this black person has endured racism but racism against whites is real too." or "Well, I'm sure black people are having a hard time but that's no excuse for interrupting a movie, that was really distressing to me."
Well, maybe it's about time white people started getting distressed. Because, this is just the sense I'm getting but I just don't think any pain white people endure in their lives is really comparable to what black people endure from living in a racist society. People like to say, "Well pain is pain, let's not dismiss what anyone's going through" but in truth I think white people who complain about racism against whites are wimps and are the very deepest level of pathetic. If you're white like me, this is my message to you - we don't know what real racism feels like so let's keep our mouths shut about what we don't know and listen for a change.
well lets see, when one of my cousins in Reno NV was a teenager he got jumped by three black kids who beat him with a combination lock on a bike chain. he thought it was racist at the time, so does that make him really pathetic? people arnt allowed to comment on life as we experience it?
Me thinkest thou thinkest too hard. Maybe everyone in the movie theatre didnt catch the nuances in the guys voice that you did. Thats a possibility. Maybe they didn't quite know if he was upset about the movie... or something else.
But in general, your correct, Black people have suffered much more racism in America. History proves that.
Its good they found out about pain but it would be more beneficial if they could have experienced this on a multi-generational level.I'm pretty sure these two knew a little bit about pain before they died.
Pretty sure their parents know a lot about the pain of a racist society.
Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia
It is like that globally, I can take abuse aimed at me much better than having my loved ones attacked.Well, maybe it's about time white people started getting distressed. Because, this is just the sense I'm getting but I just don't think any pain white people endure in their lives is really comparable to what black people endure from living in a racist society. People like to say, "Well pain is pain, let's not dismiss what anyone's going through" but in truth I think white people who complain about racism against whites are wimps and are the very deepest level of pathetic. If you're white like me, this is my message to you - we don't know what real racism feels like so let's keep our mouths shut about what we don't know and listen for a change.
How is feeling oppressed because of your race different than being oppressed because of poverty, or because you are in a shitty relationship you cannot escape, or because of who your family might be? I mean there are lots of situations in which one might feel oppression independent of their race. What makes race so much more in your mind? I don't understand your logic. I'm not questioning the veracity of your belief, so much as I am not sure what the basis of it is.
That's a fair point and you can only really get a good picture of it from people who have experienced the real daily, weekly, systemic kind. It's not something white people are likely to experience much and definitely not on the level of what blacks, muslims, and other groups go through.
I'd like to say it's more about feelings than logic and it does help to get at least a taste of racism to have some idea but I guess the difference, in my limited experience at least, between feeling judged solely because of your race and other bad experiences like being anxious of losing your house, or the hurt of a failed relationship or yeah, even the very deep hurt that only family members who you're vulnerable with can give you is that it strikes something basic and having to do with your very existence when some one treats you like they already know who you are and starts passing judgments.
Again, my own experience is super limited to mainly annoyances and only a few kind of irksome moments in Japan, but it's like, I'm ordering from a young waitress there who has probably not seen or spoken to many foreigners in her life and I'm waiting for her to finish reading the menu to me, and when I look at her, she's staring at me with this look of total terror in her eyes. She leaves quickly and I see her asking another employee to take over for her while staring at me like I was a demon. I'd said no more than five words to her. That really hurt somehow, like, as if there was something fundamentally wrong and inhuman about me that had frightened her off. Even though I got that she was just naive about foreigners, I felt really messed up for the rest of the day. I'd never experienced anything like that and I didn't have more than a few other experiences like that but if that was something I experienced on a regular basis, really, it's just hard to imagine. It's a different kind of pain than anything else and it really seems to hit at something deeper than anything else.
I still don't see how it is fundamentally different than say a woman trapped and terrorized in an abusive relationship that she cannot escape for fear for life, for her children's lives, or because she doesn't have the resources to do it, or a child with an abusive alcoholic parent. Sometimes even racism isn't as internalized as one might believe. I have asked a couple older black men who lived Jim Crow variations of the same questions--first I asked them how it made them feel the first time they were called that N-word after they knew what it meant, and got intellectualized answers. I then asked them how it made them feel the first time they heard someone call their mother the N-word after they knew what it meant, and got much more angry and emotive answers where you could see it on their faces. In other words, they coped better with it themselves personally than they ever have with it in terms of their loved ones.
The same happens in many communities, regardless of race. Why do you say whites aren't dealing with it?No One Has Ever Explained To My SatisfactionDekster said:How is feeling oppressed because of your race different than being oppressed because of poverty, or because you are in a shitty relationship you cannot escape, or because of who your family might be? I mean there are lots of situations in which one might feel oppression independent of their race. What makes race so much more in your mind? I don't understand your logic. I'm not questioning the veracity of your belief, so much as I am not sure what the basis of it is.
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Talk About Real Problems Like
Mamas With Multiple Baby-Daddies
Daddies With Multiple Baby-Mamas
Violent Crime, Drug Dealers
Truancy, Won't Study In School
Etc....
Real problems are what whites don't deal with that happen in their own communities.
Divorced women with no man at home raising kids.
Deadbeats who don't pay alimony.
Crime bosses and organized crime that controls the acquisition, shipping and distribution of drugs
Truancy. won't study in school
higher rates of crime
Child molestation
Crimes against family
Vandalism, Theft
assault/battery
Larceny
White collar crime
identity theft
Wall street robbery
Etc., Etc...…..
The same happens in many communities, regardless of race. Why do you say whites aren't dealing with it?No One Has Ever Explained To My SatisfactionDekster said:How is feeling oppressed because of your race different than being oppressed because of poverty, or because you are in a shitty relationship you cannot escape, or because of who your family might be? I mean there are lots of situations in which one might feel oppression independent of their race. What makes race so much more in your mind? I don't understand your logic. I'm not questioning the veracity of your belief, so much as I am not sure what the basis of it is.
Why I Should Care At All
Let Alone Sit And Listen To A Lecture About YT
Talk About Real Problems Like
Mamas With Multiple Baby-Daddies
Daddies With Multiple Baby-Mamas
Violent Crime, Drug Dealers
Truancy, Won't Study In School
Etc....
Real problems are what whites don't deal with that happen in their own communities.
Divorced women with no man at home raising kids.
Deadbeats who don't pay alimony.
Crime bosses and organized crime that controls the acquisition, shipping and distribution of drugs
Truancy. won't study in school
higher rates of crime
Child molestation
Crimes against family
Vandalism, Theft
assault/battery
Larceny
White collar crime
identity theft
Wall street robbery
Etc., Etc...…..
Yes it was good. However it could have been better. Their entire race could have experienced the same thing for generations so they would know how it feels.Its good they found out about pain but it would be more beneficial if they could have experienced this on a multi-generational level.I'm pretty sure these two knew a little bit about pain before they died.
Pretty sure their parents know a lot about the pain of a racist society.
Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia
It was good they found out about pain? serious?
Probably because whites seem to try and ignore the fact that they commit the vast majority of crime. They like to focus on Black people. They should prioritize themselves and deal with their issues first.The same happens in many communities, regardless of race. Why do you say whites aren't dealing with it?No One Has Ever Explained To My SatisfactionDekster said:How is feeling oppressed because of your race different than being oppressed because of poverty, or because you are in a shitty relationship you cannot escape, or because of who your family might be? I mean there are lots of situations in which one might feel oppression independent of their race. What makes race so much more in your mind? I don't understand your logic. I'm not questioning the veracity of your belief, so much as I am not sure what the basis of it is.
Why I Should Care At All
Let Alone Sit And Listen To A Lecture About YT
Talk About Real Problems Like
Mamas With Multiple Baby-Daddies
Daddies With Multiple Baby-Mamas
Violent Crime, Drug Dealers
Truancy, Won't Study In School
Etc....
Real problems are what whites don't deal with that happen in their own communities.
Divorced women with no man at home raising kids.
Deadbeats who don't pay alimony.
Crime bosses and organized crime that controls the acquisition, shipping and distribution of drugs
Truancy. won't study in school
higher rates of crime
Child molestation
Crimes against family
Vandalism, Theft
assault/battery
Larceny
White collar crime
identity theft
Wall street robbery
Etc., Etc...…..
No One Has Ever Explained To My SatisfactionDekster said:How is feeling oppressed because of your race different than being oppressed because of poverty, or because you are in a shitty relationship you cannot escape, or because of who your family might be? I mean there are lots of situations in which one might feel oppression independent of their race. What makes race so much more in your mind? I don't understand your logic. I'm not questioning the veracity of your belief, so much as I am not sure what the basis of it is.
Why I Should Care At All
Let Alone Sit And Listen To A Lecture About YT
Talk About Real Problems Like
Mamas With Multiple Baby-Daddies
Daddies With Multiple Baby-Mamas
Violent Crime, Drug Dealers
Truancy, Won't Study In School
Etc....
Real problems are what whites don't deal with that happen in their own communities.
Divorced women with no man at home raising kids.
Deadbeats who don't pay alimony.
Crime bosses and organized crime that controls the acquisition, shipping and distribution of drugs
Truancy. won't study in school
higher rates of crime
Child molestation
Crimes against family
Vandalism, Theft
assault/battery
Larceny
White collar crime
identity theft
Wall street robbery
Etc., Etc...…..
Probably because whites seem to try and ignore the fact that they commit the vast majority of crime. They like to focus on Black people. They should prioritize themselves and deal with their issues first.The same happens in many communities, regardless of race. Why do you say whites aren't dealing with it?No One Has Ever Explained To My SatisfactionDekster said:How is feeling oppressed because of your race different than being oppressed because of poverty, or because you are in a shitty relationship you cannot escape, or because of who your family might be? I mean there are lots of situations in which one might feel oppression independent of their race. What makes race so much more in your mind? I don't understand your logic. I'm not questioning the veracity of your belief, so much as I am not sure what the basis of it is.
Why I Should Care At All
Let Alone Sit And Listen To A Lecture About YT
Talk About Real Problems Like
Mamas With Multiple Baby-Daddies
Daddies With Multiple Baby-Mamas
Violent Crime, Drug Dealers
Truancy, Won't Study In School
Etc....
Real problems are what whites don't deal with that happen in their own communities.
Divorced women with no man at home raising kids.
Deadbeats who don't pay alimony.
Crime bosses and organized crime that controls the acquisition, shipping and distribution of drugs
Truancy. won't study in school
higher rates of crime
Child molestation
Crimes against family
Vandalism, Theft
assault/battery
Larceny
White collar crime
identity theft
Wall street robbery
Etc., Etc...…..
Yes it was good. However it could have been better. Their entire race could have experienced the same thing for generations so they would know how it feels.Its good they found out about pain but it would be more beneficial if they could have experienced this on a multi-generational level.I'm pretty sure these two knew a little bit about pain before they died.
Pretty sure their parents know a lot about the pain of a racist society.
Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia
It was good they found out about pain? serious?
My god daughter is 11% Black. I'm being serious. That event was used as some kind of idiotic equivalency so lets make it equivalent so whites can experience the generational pain.Yes it was good. However it could have been better. Their entire race could have experienced the same thing for generations so they would know how it feels.Its good they found out about pain but it would be more beneficial if they could have experienced this on a multi-generational level.I'm pretty sure these two knew a little bit about pain before they died.
Pretty sure their parents know a lot about the pain of a racist society.
Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia
It was good they found out about pain? serious?
Bull shit, your step daughter is white. You wouldnt wish that on her. or would you? ... but lets see, some other peoples kids, yeah its ok for them. Either your BS'ing or you are a really fucked excuse for a human being. Which one is it?
You guys always have that one example of blacks doing something to you. But I had to fight whites from k-12 who thought they had the right to jump me because I was black. Then you go to college and have to fight white boys from rural towns who think they get to jump on you because they are superior and I must know my place. And if you are defending yourself here comes the police to handcuff you even if you didn't start the fight. So why go through all that you said at the beginning and just say what you said at the end.So I'm a white guy. Just going off recent experience, yesterday I watched Blackkklansman in a Portland theater and it was hard to watch, mainly because I noticed I had to stop myself from laughing or smiling at certain parts that were really f'ed up. My impression was that that was the question the movie was putting to white people: "So, did you think it was funny? Did you like it?" Nothing was funny about that movie and yet it was making me realize that whether I want it there or not, like most white people, I've got a little racist living inside me.
There were a few black people in the theater and there was one black guy in the back who was laughing throughout the movie, especially at the racist scenes. Eventually someone shushed him and he blew up, "Don't you f'ing tell me to shut up! They keep saying it over and over, "N****r this! N****r that! N*****r! N****r! N****r! F*** this movie! F*** all you white mother-*******!"
He kept shouting and hitting the wall until an usher made him leave the theater, and after the movie the usher started apologizing to people leaving for the interruption. I told him I don't think he should be apologizing, and that while I get what he's saying, there's a bigger issue going on than just "he interrupted the movie." I said I don't think that was a movie you're meant to enjoy and I was glad that guy had been there.
So the friends I was with said, "I don't get why he got so mad." and in truth, I don't think I get it either, but what I do think I get if nothing else is this: That guy might have seemed angry to some people, but all I heard was someone really, really hurt. Like, beyond hurt.
I know a bit about pain - I tried to kill myself when I was a teenager; like, seriously tried to kill myself, with a note and everything and wound up in the hospital. And I'm a pretty sensitive guy. And I'm saying, I'm not sure even in my worst moments I have ever been as upset as that guy sounded to me. He didn't seem crazy - up until the moment some one told him to be quiet he sounded like a normal guy, and a normal person doesn't get that upset, they just don't.
And I've heard that kind of hurt from a lot of black people I've known or met, something deep, something carnal, and it's not about them - it's about white people. Not just the out-in-the-open racists but white people everywhere, esp. in the U.S., who won't acknowledge that something really twisted and sick is going on in this world and black people have been taking the brunt of it for a long time.
White people like to talk about equivalence a lot: "Well, maybe this black person has endured racism but racism against whites is real too." or "Well, I'm sure black people are having a hard time but that's no excuse for interrupting a movie, that was really distressing to me."
Well, maybe it's about time white people started getting distressed. Because, this is just the sense I'm getting but I just don't think any pain white people endure in their lives is really comparable to what black people endure from living in a racist society. People like to say, "Well pain is pain, let's not dismiss what anyone's going through" but in truth I think white people who complain about racism against whites are wimps and are the very deepest level of pathetic. If you're white like me, this is my message to you - we don't know what real racism feels like so let's keep our mouths shut about what we don't know and listen for a change.
well lets see, when one of my cousins in Reno NV was a teenager he got jumped by three black kids who beat him with a combination lock on a bike chain. he thought it was racist at the time, so does that make him really pathetic? people arnt allowed to comment on life as we experience it?
Me thinkest thou thinkest too hard. Maybe everyone in the movie theatre didnt catch the nuances in the guys voice that you did. Thats a possibility. Maybe they didn't quite know if he was upset about the movie... or something else.
But in general, your correct, Black people have suffered much more racism in America. History proves that.
What I said at the end is true. By far blacks HAVE endured more racism in the US than anyone else. But the rest of my response to the OP ...(("Well pain is pain, let's not dismiss what anyone's going through" but in truth I think white people who complain about racism against whites are wimps and are the very deepest level of pathetic. If you're white like me, this is my message to you - we don't know what real racism feels like so let's keep our mouths shut about what we don't know and listen for a change.)))
Is that being a victim of Racism is subjective. Of course the racism someone experiences as a white, an asian or a latino is not going to be the same as someone who is black but it doesn't make someones experience any less real. We are all human beings and understanding the entire human experience is pretty helpful.
So in having a discussion on race, all white people are suposed to keep our mouth shut and have no back and forth discussion on experiences? Because it seems like every time a white person mentions something... its simply called deflecting or 'Trying to Impose their white privilage and wants everyone to listen to their white man opinion which is more important than anyone elses'.... I would never Equate an experience I had with that of an African American , because it would be quite different.
People can listen back and forth on both sides to understand each other a whole lot better.
Well, maybe it's about time white people started getting distressed. Because, this is just the sense I'm getting but I just don't think any pain white people endure in their lives is really comparable to what black people endure from living in a racist society. People like to say, "Well pain is pain, let's not dismiss what anyone's going through" but in truth I think white people who complain about racism against whites are wimps and are the very deepest level of pathetic. If you're white like me, this is my message to you - we don't know what real racism feels like so let's keep our mouths shut about what we don't know and listen for a change.
How is feeling oppressed because of your race different than being oppressed because of poverty, or because you are in a shitty relationship you cannot escape, or because of who your family might be? I mean there are lots of situations in which one might feel oppression independent of their race. What makes race so much more in your mind? I don't understand your logic. I'm not questioning the veracity of your belief, so much as I am not sure what the basis of it is.
That's a fair point and you can only really get a good picture of it from people who have experienced the real daily, weekly, systemic kind. It's not something white people are likely to experience much and definitely not on the level of what blacks, muslims, and other groups go through.
I'd like to say it's more about feelings than logic and it does help to get at least a taste of racism to have some idea but I guess the difference, in my limited experience at least, between feeling judged solely because of your race and other bad experiences like being anxious of losing your house, or the hurt of a failed relationship or yeah, even the very deep hurt that only family members who you're vulnerable with can give you is that it strikes something basic and having to do with your very existence when some one treats you like they already know who you are and starts passing judgments.
Again, my own experience is super limited to mainly annoyances and only a few kind of irksome moments in Japan, but it's like, I'm ordering from a young waitress there who has probably not seen or spoken to many foreigners in her life and I'm waiting for her to finish reading the menu to me, and when I look at her, she's staring at me with this look of total terror in her eyes. She leaves quickly and I see her asking another employee to take over for her while staring at me like I was a demon. I'd said no more than five words to her. That really hurt somehow, like, as if there was something fundamentally wrong and inhuman about me that had frightened her off. Even though I got that she was just naive about foreigners, I felt really messed up for the rest of the day. I'd never experienced anything like that and I didn't have more than a few other experiences like that but if that was something I experienced on a regular basis, really, it's just hard to imagine. It's a different kind of pain than anything else and it really seems to hit at something deeper than anything else.
I still don't see how it is fundamentally different than say a woman trapped and terrorized in an abusive relationship that she cannot escape for fear for life, for her children's lives, or because she doesn't have the resources to do it, or a child with an abusive alcoholic parent. Sometimes even racism isn't as internalized as one might believe. I have asked a couple older black men who lived Jim Crow variations of the same questions--first I asked them how it made them feel the first time they were called that N-word after they knew what it meant, and got intellectualized answers. I then asked them how it made them feel the first time they heard someone call their mother the N-word after they knew what it meant, and got much more angry and emotive answers where you could see it on their faces. In other words, they coped better with it themselves personally than they ever have with it in terms of their loved ones.
The same happens in many communities, regardless of race. Why do you say whites aren't dealing with it?No One Has Ever Explained To My SatisfactionDekster said:How is feeling oppressed because of your race different than being oppressed because of poverty, or because you are in a shitty relationship you cannot escape, or because of who your family might be? I mean there are lots of situations in which one might feel oppression independent of their race. What makes race so much more in your mind? I don't understand your logic. I'm not questioning the veracity of your belief, so much as I am not sure what the basis of it is.
Why I Should Care At All
Let Alone Sit And Listen To A Lecture About YT
Talk About Real Problems Like
Mamas With Multiple Baby-Daddies
Daddies With Multiple Baby-Mamas
Violent Crime, Drug Dealers
Truancy, Won't Study In School
Etc....
Real problems are what whites don't deal with that happen in their own communities.
Divorced women with no man at home raising kids.
Deadbeats who don't pay alimony.
Crime bosses and organized crime that controls the acquisition, shipping and distribution of drugs
Truancy. won't study in school
higher rates of crime
Child molestation
Crimes against family
Vandalism, Theft
assault/battery
Larceny
White collar crime
identity theft
Wall street robbery
Etc., Etc...…..
Exactly true , all communities white or black are trying to deal with their problems the best they can some better than others though
Its good they found out about pain but it would be more beneficial if they could have experienced this on a multi-generational level.I'm pretty sure these two knew a little bit about pain before they died.
Pretty sure their parents know a lot about the pain of a racist society.
Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia
Probably because whites seem to try and ignore the fact that they commit the vast majority of crime. They like to focus on Black people. They should prioritize themselves and deal with their issues first.The same happens in many communities, regardless of race. Why do you say whites aren't dealing with it?No One Has Ever Explained To My SatisfactionDekster said:How is feeling oppressed because of your race different than being oppressed because of poverty, or because you are in a shitty relationship you cannot escape, or because of who your family might be? I mean there are lots of situations in which one might feel oppression independent of their race. What makes race so much more in your mind? I don't understand your logic. I'm not questioning the veracity of your belief, so much as I am not sure what the basis of it is.
Why I Should Care At All
Let Alone Sit And Listen To A Lecture About YT
Talk About Real Problems Like
Mamas With Multiple Baby-Daddies
Daddies With Multiple Baby-Mamas
Violent Crime, Drug Dealers
Truancy, Won't Study In School
Etc....
Real problems are what whites don't deal with that happen in their own communities.
Divorced women with no man at home raising kids.
Deadbeats who don't pay alimony.
Crime bosses and organized crime that controls the acquisition, shipping and distribution of drugs
Truancy. won't study in school
higher rates of crime
Child molestation
Crimes against family
Vandalism, Theft
assault/battery
Larceny
White collar crime
identity theft
Wall street robbery
Etc., Etc...…..
when whites don't focus on blacks they are accused of ignoring the problem.... and when they do, they get accused of deflecting from their own problems.
Obama wasn't going to re open the steel mills, restart industry in the big cities, push for Prison reform. But The fat orange guy is doing all of that that the black guy wouldnt do. Racism and wealth redistribution is all the democratic politicians got to offer.
So I'm a white guy. Just going off recent experience, yesterday I watched Blackkklansman in a Portland theater and it was hard to watch, mainly because I noticed I had to stop myself from laughing or smiling at certain parts that were really f'ed up. My impression was that that was the question the movie was putting to white people: "So, did you think it was funny? Did you like it?" Nothing was funny about that movie and yet it was making me realize that whether I want it there or not, like most white people, I've got a little racist living inside me.
There were a few black people in the theater and there was one black guy in the back who was laughing throughout the movie, especially at the racist scenes. Eventually someone shushed him and he blew up, "Don't you f'ing tell me to shut up! They keep saying it over and over, "N****r this! N****r that! N*****r! N****r! N****r! F*** this movie! F*** all you white mother-*******!"
He kept shouting and hitting the wall until an usher made him leave the theater, and after the movie the usher started apologizing to people leaving for the interruption. I told him I don't think he should be apologizing, and that while I get what he's saying, there's a bigger issue going on than just "he interrupted the movie." I said I don't think that was a movie you're meant to enjoy and I was glad that guy had been there.
So the friends I was with said, "I don't get why he got so mad." and in truth, I don't think I get it either, but what I do think I get if nothing else is this: That guy might have seemed angry to some people, but all I heard was someone really, really hurt. Like, beyond hurt.
I know a bit about pain - I tried to kill myself when I was a teenager; like, seriously tried to kill myself, with a note and everything and wound up in the hospital. And I'm a pretty sensitive guy. And I'm saying, I'm not sure even in my worst moments I have ever been as upset as that guy sounded to me. He didn't seem crazy - up until the moment some one told him to be quiet he sounded like a normal guy, and a normal person doesn't get that upset, they just don't.
And I've heard that kind of hurt from a lot of black people I've known or met, something deep, something carnal, and it's not about them - it's about white people. Not just the out-in-the-open racists but white people everywhere, esp. in the U.S., who won't acknowledge that something really twisted and sick is going on in this world and black people have been taking the brunt of it for a long time.
White people like to talk about equivalence a lot: "Well, maybe this black person has endured racism but racism against whites is real too." or "Well, I'm sure black people are having a hard time but that's no excuse for interrupting a movie, that was really distressing to me."
Well, maybe it's about time white people started getting distressed. Because, this is just the sense I'm getting but I just don't think any pain white people endure in their lives is really comparable to what black people endure from living in a racist society. People like to say, "Well pain is pain, let's not dismiss what anyone's going through" but in truth I think white people who complain about racism against whites are wimps and are the very deepest level of pathetic. If you're white like me, this is my message to you - we don't know what real racism feels like so let's keep our mouths shut about what we don't know and listen for a change.
Congratulations. Spike Lee has manipulated your white ass. And done it with your permission and assistance.
Yeah, leftwads are such a stupid and neurotic bunch. There have been trailers for the latest white-apoligist movie soon released called "White Boy Rick."
Can you imagine the outcry of Hollyweird released a movie named "Black Boy Steve"? I see one hulluva double standard here.
So I'm a white guy. Just going off recent experience, yesterday I watched Blackkklansman in a Portland theater and it was hard to watch, mainly because I noticed I had to stop myself from laughing or smiling at certain parts that were really f'ed up. My impression was that that was the question the movie was putting to white people: "So, did you think it was funny? Did you like it?" Nothing was funny about that movie and yet it was making me realize that whether I want it there or not, like most white people, I've got a little racist living inside me.
There were a few black people in the theater and there was one black guy in the back who was laughing throughout the movie, especially at the racist scenes. Eventually someone shushed him and he blew up, "Don't you f'ing tell me to shut up! They keep saying it over and over, "N****r this! N****r that! N*****r! N****r! N****r! F*** this movie! F*** all you white mother-*******!"
He kept shouting and hitting the wall until an usher made him leave the theater, and after the movie the usher started apologizing to people leaving for the interruption. I told him I don't think he should be apologizing, and that while I get what he's saying, there's a bigger issue going on than just "he interrupted the movie." I said I don't think that was a movie you're meant to enjoy and I was glad that guy had been there.
So the friends I was with said, "I don't get why he got so mad." and in truth, I don't think I get it either, but what I do think I get if nothing else is this: That guy might have seemed angry to some people, but all I heard was someone really, really hurt. Like, beyond hurt.
I know a bit about pain - I tried to kill myself when I was a teenager; like, seriously tried to kill myself, with a note and everything and wound up in the hospital. And I'm a pretty sensitive guy. And I'm saying, I'm not sure even in my worst moments I have ever been as upset as that guy sounded to me. He didn't seem crazy - up until the moment some one told him to be quiet he sounded like a normal guy, and a normal person doesn't get that upset, they just don't.
And I've heard that kind of hurt from a lot of black people I've known or met, something deep, something carnal, and it's not about them - it's about white people. Not just the out-in-the-open racists but white people everywhere, esp. in the U.S., who won't acknowledge that something really twisted and sick is going on in this world and black people have been taking the brunt of it for a long time.
White people like to talk about equivalence a lot: "Well, maybe this black person has endured racism but racism against whites is real too." or "Well, I'm sure black people are having a hard time but that's no excuse for interrupting a movie, that was really distressing to me."
Well, maybe it's about time white people started getting distressed. Because, this is just the sense I'm getting but I just don't think any pain white people endure in their lives is really comparable to what black people endure from living in a racist society. People like to say, "Well pain is pain, let's not dismiss what anyone's going through" but in truth I think white people who complain about racism against whites are wimps and are the very deepest level of pathetic. If you're white like me, this is my message to you - we don't know what real racism feels like so let's keep our mouths shut about what we don't know and listen for a change.
In reading this otherwise well written piece I cannot help but gritting my teeth at the part where you fall on the sword of your since time immemorial ancestral cultural sword. Ouch. Well, that part and the one before and after it where you use a crowbar to pry your own foot out of your mouth. Leaves a bad taste, eh?
If you're white like me, this is my message to you - we don't know what real racism feels like so let's keep our mouths shut about what we don't know and listen for a change
