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CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL: Classified Cable Proves US Okd Saddams Kuwait Invasion
CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL: Classified Cable Proves US Ok
Oh, the old "April Glaspee" conspiracy. I think Ross Perot said this in 1992, and it's usually a train to crazy town.
The thing is, we didn't have a formal alliance with Kuwait at that time, and we didn't have a side in that fight,w hich was initially over control of just the Rumelia oil fields.
April Glaspie is on record saying exactly what she said to Saddam Hussien when he made it clear Iraq was going to invade Kuwait. In fact, later she stated that she thought the Iraqis were going to take a port town..and not the whole country.
Oh bullshit.
Conservatives have no problem melting things down when it suits them. No Republican president has ever been impeached.
Democratic Presidents..however..have been impeached. Twice. And their authority is constantly questioned. Clinton and now Obama are prime examples of that.
It's de facto voter nullification.
Nixon resigned rather than be impeached, because his OWN PARTY could no longer support him.
Democrats supported Clinton, despite the fact he was caught red handed committing perjury, obstructing justice and abusing his power.
Also, it's kind of a stretch to call Andrew Johnson a "Democrat". He ran on the Republican ticket in 1864.
I sincerely WISH we could impeach Obama. His conduct of the economy is treasonous.
Oh, the old "April Glaspee" conspiracy. I think Ross Perot said this in 1992, and it's usually a train to crazy town.
The thing is, we didn't have a formal alliance with Kuwait at that time, and we didn't have a side in that fight,w hich was initially over control of just the Rumelia oil fields.
April Glaspie is on record saying exactly what she said to Saddam Hussien when he made it clear Iraq was going to invade Kuwait. In fact, later she stated that she thought the Iraqis were going to take a port town..and not the whole country.
And a port town was none of our business. When he took the whole country, he was in violation of the UN charter, thus cause for war.
Can't feel that bad for Kuwait. They and the Saudis bankrolled Saddam's war against Iran. They raised a rabid pit bull and wonder why they got mauled. But Saddam stepped over the line, and the UN, which you liberals all claim is soooo effin' holy, authorized force to remove him from Kuwait.
Because impeachment is a political/administrative process, and not (exactly) the same as a legal process.Why weren't both Bushes impeached and/or tried for war crimes?
Politics, at least in the cases involving a POTUS, precedes the law.
I cannot imagine what Bush I or II would be impeached for, anyway.
While one can object to their wars, one cannot make a credible case that what they did rose to the level of a war crime.
Now I can imagine any POTUS being impeached, of course.
After the Clinton impeachment it is obvious that "high crimes and misdemeanors" basically means nothing more than "We have the political power to impeach, we don't like this POTUS, and we're going to do it"
I sincerely WISH we could impeach Obama. His conduct of the economy is treasonous.
You'll have to explain how his conduct is "treasonous". He's colored in the lines and played by the book all along.
Not like Reagan..who really did commit treason.
Because impeachment is a political/administrative process, and not (exactly) the same as a legal process.
Politics, at least in the cases involving a POTUS, precedes the law.
I cannot imagine what Bush I or II would be impeached for, anyway.
While one can object to their wars, one cannot make a credible case that what they did rose to the level of a war crime.
Now I can imagine any POTUS being impeached, of course.
After the Clinton impeachment it is obvious that "high crimes and misdemeanors" basically means nothing more than "We have the political power to impeach, we don't like this POTUS, and we're going to do it"
There's a major difference.
Whatever you think about Bush and Cheney's conduct of the war, the fact it, they got congressional approval for it. Congress could have stopped them at any time. But when 70% wanted some kind of horrific revenge, none of them had the guts to do that. Hillary, Kerry, Edwards, and the rest of them all signed on to going after Saddam, building Gitmo, and so on.
On the other hand, Clinton took it upon himself to lie in court, and use the power of his office to hide a sleazy personal affair that most politicians would have resigned over. In short, his conduct was illegal and it was all on him.
Oh bullshit.
Conservatives have no problem melting things down when it suits them. No Republican president has ever been impeached.
Democratic Presidents..however..have been impeached. Twice. And their authority is constantly questioned. Clinton and now Obama are prime examples of that.
It's de facto voter nullification.
No one liked Hussien.
Did you never here of the President Johnson Impeachment in the 1860's? That proved the point. It was all about politics, Congress wanted to punish the South and Johnson refused. He survived impeachment because one Senator realized what he was doing and the precedent it would set and chose not to impeach him.
No one liked Hussien. That's why the invasion was green lighted. Even so..the second time around the rational was so preposterous even the UN balked.
No one liked Hussien. That's why the invasion was green lighted. Even so..the second time around the rational was so preposterous even the UN balked.
NO, the UN didn't balk. They authorized Resolution 1441, which allowed an invasion without the need for a further resolution.
You know, I find it amusing that Democrats in Congress and the UN gave Bush a gun, and then didn't think he was going to use it on the guy who tried to murder his father.
Really?
No one liked Hussien.
Says who? He kept the lid on that cesspool. Both Bushes committed more atrocities than Saddam ever did.
No one liked Hussien. That's why the invasion was green lighted. Even so..the second time around the rational was so preposterous even the UN balked.
NO, the UN didn't balk. They authorized Resolution 1441, which allowed an invasion without the need for a further resolution.
You know, I find it amusing that Democrats in Congress and the UN gave Bush a gun, and then didn't think he was going to use it on the guy who tried to murder his father.
Really?
Which congress in history has denied a President a war?
I sincerely WISH we could impeach Obama. His conduct of the economy is treasonous.
You'll have to explain how his conduct is "treasonous". He's colored in the lines and played by the book all along.
Not like Reagan..who really did commit treason.
Riiiight. Reagan did commit Treason against the Sandinistas... poor babies.
I don't care if Obama "played by the book". The point is, he's phooked up the economy the worst I've seen in my life. 9% unemployment. $4.00 gasoline. 4 Trillion in new debt. Downgraded credit status.
In the classic words of Darth Vader, "You've failed me for the last time!" This clown needs to be thrown out so hard he bounces.
NO, the UN didn't balk. They authorized Resolution 1441, which allowed an invasion without the need for a further resolution.
You know, I find it amusing that Democrats in Congress and the UN gave Bush a gun, and then didn't think he was going to use it on the guy who tried to murder his father.
Really?
Which congress in history has denied a President a war?
Well, Clinton in the balkans in 1999 and the Community Organizer in 2011... not that they didn't fight wars, anyway.
But those were "good wars".
Really.
Keep telling yourselves that.
No one liked Hussien.
Says who? He kept the lid on that cesspool. Both Bushes committed more atrocities than Saddam ever did.
Saddam killed half a million Kurds in Operation Anfal. His war with Iran cost a million dead. The sanctions that kept Saddam "in the box" killed half a million Iraqis, most of them children.
At most, the Iraq War killed 100,000 Iraqis (forget the BS Lancet Reports) and 5000 Americans. Which is a tragedy, but leaving Saddam in power would have been just as bad. Keeping the lid on the cesspool forgets that there were 26 million people in this "cesspool".
No..he committed Treason against the United States by making a deal with Iran to keep the hostages in custody until after the election. That's a big deal.
And Obama didn't "phooked" up the economy. That was done by Bush. And royally. With a lot of help from Reagan and a little help from Clinton.
They were.
Stopping genocide is always a good thing.
And you are kind of right..Congress denied those presidents the use of troops. They gave them missiles and bombs.
Which worked out in the end.
You'll have to explain how his conduct is "treasonous". He's colored in the lines and played by the book all along.
Not like Reagan..who really did commit treason.
Riiiight. Reagan did commit Treason against the Sandinistas... poor babies.
I don't care if Obama "played by the book". The point is, he's phooked up the economy the worst I've seen in my life. 9% unemployment. $4.00 gasoline. 4 Trillion in new debt. Downgraded credit status.
In the classic words of Darth Vader, "You've failed me for the last time!" This clown needs to be thrown out so hard he bounces.
No..he committed Treason against the United States by making a deal with Iran to keep the hostages in custody until after the election. That's a big deal.
And Obama didn't "phooked" up the economy. That was done by Bush. And royally. With a lot of help from Reagan and a little help from Clinton.
