Why We Should Increase Taxes?

[Avatar4321]

Raising taxes will increase spending once again and then you will come back and claim we need to once again raise taxes so they can again spend more.
Don't you folks GET IT?
We need to immediately CUT PROGRAMS.
What do you do at home when you do not have enough money to pay bills?
How many of you own a business and employ others?
Raise taxes AND JOBS ARE ELIMINATED.
How hard is that for you folks to understand?

I don't know why it's so hard to understand. Maybe its because they are lying to themselves and trying to pretend this isn't serious and that if we don't look at the problem we won't have to deal with it.

 

[Flopper]

2. No, tax increases have never... EVER increased economic activity.

WRONG!!

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The tax increase in early 90's were followed by many years of economic expansion. The Bush tax cuts were followed by recession. The huge tax cuts that started in the 60's and continued into the 80's have not produced any higher rates of growth than we had in the 50's when taxes were much higher.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Incorrect. History has shown that when taxes are decreased, economic growth increases.

You keep saying that...and, post ZERO History to PROVE it.



Ya' got NOTHIN'!
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[007]

Bush BLEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​

And obama is nuking it into oblivion. Now what? More but, but, but, but..... BOOOOOOOSSSSSHH?

Damn man, GET A FUCKING LIFE.

 

[DiamondDave]

Incorrect. History has shown that when taxes are decreased, economic growth increases.

You keep saying that...and, post ZERO History to PROVE it.



Ya' got NOTHIN'!
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Macroeconomics, Overview, Basics, Principles, 101 Introduction Information

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Except there was no debt reduction... look at the actual numbers, you twit troll.... there has not been a debt reduction since (I believe) 1957.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....

Them're some NUMBERS ya' got, there!!!!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

No wonder taxpayers are so screwed. Only 10 Million out of 300 Million are paying taxes!!!!!!

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MORE detail-free Absolutes!!!!

 

[DiamondDave]

Except there was no debt reduction... look at the actual numbers, you twit troll.... there has not been a debt reduction since (I believe) 1957.

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Them're some NUMBERS ya' got, there!!!!!

Government - Public Debt Reports

Been posted many times and proven many times before your troll ass showed up here

 

[DiamondDave]

Debunking this newbie troll with his same old slogans and jabs and untruths is about as easy as a drunken prom date

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I didn't vote for Clinton because he supported NAFTA so you're not winning any prizes telling me about Clinton's mistakes.

I'd say he had a few succe$$e$......

 

[Big Fitz]

The Medicare that's co$ting us, so much, presently, is Lil' Dumbya's Medicare D; Medicare Modernization Act.

Written by Teddy Kennedy and passed by a RINO encrusted congress which is one of the major factors why the Dems regained congress in 2006. We fiscal conservatives have been bitching about this disaster since Kennedy suckered the new president into 'crossing the aisle', and W still bought into that progressive BS of "Compassionate Conservatism".

 

[DiamondDave]

I didn't vote for Clinton because he supported NAFTA so you're not winning any prizes telling me about Clinton's mistakes.

I'd say he had a few succe$$e$......

Wow.. a winger fluff piece... about as surprising as someone 'expanding' on their resume to sell themselves

You're floundering, troll

 

[Mr. Shaman]

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Incorrect. History has shown that when taxes are decreased, economic growth increases.

That's never been shown as a legitimate cause and effect. Every tax cut in recent history that I can think of has been accompanied by ballooning deficits,

so you could just as easily claim that whenever the government balloons the deficit, '

economic growth increases.

Here, try some o' this.....

boedicca (obviously) has a tendency to be somewhat-confusing....what with no details to back-up much of anything.

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[DiamondDave]

Gotta love this.. the troll has a bunch of links that he probably uses on a regular basis to hit and run in message boards... but in this very thread arguing why we should raise taxes... he links to a fluff piece that actually proclaims

Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.

as defending Clinton under the premise of raising taxes,... tries to claim the validity of the Clinton bubble boom and then denies that reducing taxes increases the economic growth

Which is it, troll?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Why not lower corporate taxes so businesses actually want to work here instead of going to other countries with lower business taxes?

LET 'em go.....but, they'll be getting NO MORE FEDERAL-CONTRACTS!!!!!​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

We have all the proof we need right now that increasing taxes and going on a spending binge doesn't create jobs.

You just keep forgetting to post that proof, right?


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[DiamondDave]

We have all the proof we need right now that increasing taxes and going on a spending binge doesn't create jobs.

You just keep forgetting to post that proof, right?


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Do you have to be educated on how a job is actually created in an economic marketplace??
Do I have to link you again to more basic economics study texts?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Maybe he should just do like Bush Sr and bite the bullet and say something to the effect of, I didn't plan on increasing taxes, but that was before I got in office and figured out just how bad things really were...

Yeah...if nothing else....Daddy Bush was the picture of honesty.....



(Honesty was a Bush Family Tradition!!)​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

1) As told to you and PROVEN so many times, the debt has not decreased since 1957... your chart is disingenuous and obviously from a biased source.

Yeah....your's is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much-more-accurate.


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[DiamondDave]

1) As told to you and PROVEN so many times, the debt has not decreased since 1957... your chart is disingenuous and obviously from a biased source.

Yeah....your's is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much-more-accurate.


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Yes... it is the actual government source...

epic fail