why we need electoral college:Los Angeles county is home to more people than each of these 41 states

[Wyatt earp]

Arkansas 3 million population 17 % in poverty =500,000



Alabama 4 million population 17% in poverty = 680,000


So you now combine Arkansas, alabama , lousiana, Arizona, Mississippi = only roughly around 4 million people in poverty


And once again California has 5.5 million people in poverty


.

Because they have way more people !!

God you cons suck at statistics .

You lefties love to play your games ...so in reality California is a shit hole with more welfare whores then at least 9 states combined and you want them to rule over the country if the left tard mental masturbation fantasy of getting rid of the electoral college is eliminated?

Well since we aren’t adjusting for population , Cali pays way more in taxes than those other states .

Not the 5 million in poverty ...

“Poverty “ in Cali = middle class in Bama .

Now you are getting it ..good for you, you're learning something

 

[BrokeLoser]

I knew that whizzo was math-challenged when he admitted pissing his money away in a gambling casino.

Maybe, but we're comparing one of the richest states w/ with at least 4 of the lowest. California, and I don't say this easily, having lived there for 16 years, has turned into a veritable shit hole of a state.

Compared to what ?

Places that are not shit holes. Stupid question. Having said that, there are still parts of CA that are stunningly beautiful, but those are in the Red parts of the state. Poverty and sleaze are typically in the Blue areas and very limited areas like where Pelosi lives.

True.
I live on the south Orange County, north San Diego border on the water....it's absolutely amazing here but only because Mexicans can't afford the fuel within a five radius. Just a short drive out of here and you're welcomed by graffiti, dirty diapers and Modello cans lining the roadways, stray pit bulls running the streets and uninsured drivers...basically it's North Mexico.

Yeah. I lived in San Diego until 1989. South of Broadway was a shit hole but north till Camp Pendelton was nice. From what I hear a lot of the area has become a shit hole.

Aww...I know right where you were at.
Basically, anywhere Mexicans frequent or have inhabited has turned to absolute shit...PERIOD. That's the common denominator, don't let anybody tell you differently.
I have many friends in Huntington and Newport Beach, they want to relocate down by me to get away from all the filthy wetbacks that show up on the weekends and ruin their beaches...The locals there get together weekly during the summer months to cleanup dirty diapers, beer cans and Tapatio bottles left in the sand by the thirdworld filth. Pretty sad actually.

 

[Meathead]

Maybe, but we're comparing one of the richest states w/ with at least 4 of the lowest. California, and I don't say this easily, having lived there for 16 years, has turned into a veritable shit hole of a state.

Compared to what ?

Places that are not shit holes. Stupid question. Having said that, there are still parts of CA that are stunningly beautiful, but those are in the Red parts of the state. Poverty and sleaze are typically in the Blue areas and very limited areas like where Pelosi lives.

True.
I live on the south Orange County, north San Diego border on the water....it's absolutely amazing here but only because Mexicans can't afford the fuel within a five radius. Just a short drive out of here and you're welcomed by graffiti, dirty diapers and Modello cans lining the roadways, stray pit bulls running the streets and uninsured drivers...basically it's North Mexico.

Yeah. I lived in San Diego until 1989. South of Broadway was a shit hole but north till Camp Pendelton was nice. From what I hear a lot of the area has become a shit hole.

Aww...I know right where you were at.
Basically, anywhere Mexicans frequent or have inhabited has turned to absolute shit...PERIOD. That's the common denominator, don't let anybody tell you differently.
I have many friends in Huntington and Newport Beach, they want to relocate down by me to get away from all the filthy wetbacks that show up on the weekends and ruin their beaches...The locals there get together weekly during the summer months to cleanup dirty diapers, beer cans and Tapatio bottles left in the sand by the thirdworld filth. Pretty sad actually.

Nah, I was down at Mission and Pacific Beaches in San Diego. At that time the 3rd-world started at Broadway, SD's main boulevard, and went down to the border. That was a long time ago.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The electoral college system also contributes to low voter turnout and also contributes to the limiting of the states where the presidential candidates will campaign.

Since I don't live in a swing state and it always goes democrat, there is little reason to vote. If you're a republican, it's just a protest vote. If you're a democrat, it just a vote of confidence. We have a really stupid system for electing our presidents and it's not going to change.

I don't know my home state always goes for democrats, that's why I moved ...now I never ever have to bother to vote.

 

[Flopper]

Dallas also has a large population; the EC was set up since lack of transportation made voting time consuming, transporting ballots impossible in places, and was intended to reflect the popular vote. Problems begun with J.Q. Adams/Jackson, Tilden/Hayes led to riots. Clinton's popular vote victory was large enough to make the error glaring. There is no reason why my vote counts less than that of an Iowa citizen. Popular vote, OR, modified EC reflects the actual vote. Two states have modified EC.

Explain why small states (population) receive greater weighted votes.

First, you realize that GWB was elected 17 years ago without winning the popular vote. I guess you didn't like Gore either.

You had better hope no one ever changes it, or Democrats will never win another national election. Imagine if we voted the way Maine and Nebraska votes. Democrats would claim 2 electoral votes if they win the popular vote, but they would lose far more by Congressional districts. That gerrymandering comes in handy when the Republicans control so many state legislatures who design those districts. If that method was adopted by most states, imagine how much impact that would have to nullify Democrats chances.

In 2016, Hillary would have lost the Congressional districts by 230-205. She would have lost the states popular vote 30-20, but also taking DC.

That would have made Trump 290 electoral votes to Clinton's 248. That's not much different than 304-227 using the current method.

Guess what! Trump would STILL be President!

She loses again! Suck it up, buttercup!

Since it requires 270 electoral votes to win the presidency, it is possible to become president with as little as 23% of the popular vote. By winning the right states by just one vote, you can win the presidency with only 29.9 million out of a 130 million votes cast. Suppose Trump loss the popular vote by 100 million votes but got the 270 electoral votes he needed, he could still be president but I wonder how much support would there be for electoral college.

How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote

 

[BrokeLoser]

Compared to what ?

Places that are not shit holes. Stupid question. Having said that, there are still parts of CA that are stunningly beautiful, but those are in the Red parts of the state. Poverty and sleaze are typically in the Blue areas and very limited areas like where Pelosi lives.

True.
I live on the south Orange County, north San Diego border on the water....it's absolutely amazing here but only because Mexicans can't afford the fuel within a five radius. Just a short drive out of here and you're welcomed by graffiti, dirty diapers and Modello cans lining the roadways, stray pit bulls running the streets and uninsured drivers...basically it's North Mexico.

Yeah. I lived in San Diego until 1989. South of Broadway was a shit hole but north till Camp Pendelton was nice. From what I hear a lot of the area has become a shit hole.

Aww...I know right where you were at.
Basically, anywhere Mexicans frequent or have inhabited has turned to absolute shit...PERIOD. That's the common denominator, don't let anybody tell you differently.
I have many friends in Huntington and Newport Beach, they want to relocate down by me to get away from all the filthy wetbacks that show up on the weekends and ruin their beaches...The locals there get together weekly during the summer months to cleanup dirty diapers, beer cans and Tapatio bottles left in the sand by the thirdworld filth. Pretty sad actually.

Nah, I was down at Mission and Pacific Beaches in San Diego. At that time the 3rd-world started at Broadway, SD's main boulevard, and went down to the border. That was a long time ago.

Those immediate areas are actually still quite nice...I spend a good bit of time in PB and I often keep my boat in Mission Bay when the tuna are near.
I've been here my whole life, it's very disheartening to watch this beautiful place degrade at the the rate it is...everybody knows the cause and no one has the balls to do anything about it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Dallas also has a large population; the EC was set up since lack of transportation made voting time consuming, transporting ballots impossible in places, and was intended to reflect the popular vote. Problems begun with J.Q. Adams/Jackson, Tilden/Hayes led to riots. Clinton's popular vote victory was large enough to make the error glaring. There is no reason why my vote counts less than that of an Iowa citizen. Popular vote, OR, modified EC reflects the actual vote. Two states have modified EC.

Explain why small states (population) receive greater weighted votes.

First, you realize that GWB was elected 17 years ago without winning the popular vote. I guess you didn't like Gore either.

You had better hope no one ever changes it, or Democrats will never win another national election. Imagine if we voted the way Maine and Nebraska votes. Democrats would claim 2 electoral votes if they win the popular vote, but they would lose far more by Congressional districts. That gerrymandering comes in handy when the Republicans control so many state legislatures who design those districts. If that method was adopted by most states, imagine how much impact that would have to nullify Democrats chances.

In 2016, Hillary would have lost the Congressional districts by 230-205. She would have lost the states popular vote 30-20, but also taking DC.

That would have made Trump 290 electoral votes to Clinton's 248. That's not much different than 304-227 using the current method.

Guess what! Trump would STILL be President!

She loses again! Suck it up, buttercup!

Since it requires 270 electoral votes to win the presidency, it is possible to become president with as little as 23% of the popular vote. By winning the right states by just one vote, you can win the presidency with only 29.9 million out of a 130 million votes cast. Suppose Trump loss the popular vote by 100 million votes but got the 270 electoral votes he needed, he could still be president but I wonder how much support would there be for electoral college.

How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote

I will remind you again. I taught this for many years. You are not impressing me at all, which is about normal.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Dallas also has a large population; the EC was set up since lack of transportation made voting time consuming, transporting ballots impossible in places, and was intended to reflect the popular vote. Problems begun with J.Q. Adams/Jackson, Tilden/Hayes led to riots. Clinton's popular vote victory was large enough to make the error glaring. There is no reason why my vote counts less than that of an Iowa citizen. Popular vote, OR, modified EC reflects the actual vote. Two states have modified EC.

Explain why small states (population) receive greater weighted votes.

First, you realize that GWB was elected 17 years ago without winning the popular vote. I guess you didn't like Gore either.

You had better hope no one ever changes it, or Democrats will never win another national election. Imagine if we voted the way Maine and Nebraska votes. Democrats would claim 2 electoral votes if they win the popular vote, but they would lose far more by Congressional districts. That gerrymandering comes in handy when the Republicans control so many state legislatures who design those districts. If that method was adopted by most states, imagine how much impact that would have to nullify Democrats chances.

In 2016, Hillary would have lost the Congressional districts by 230-205. She would have lost the states popular vote 30-20, but also taking DC.

That would have made Trump 290 electoral votes to Clinton's 248. That's not much different than 304-227 using the current method.

Guess what! Trump would STILL be President!

She loses again! Suck it up, buttercup!

Since it requires 270 electoral votes to win the presidency, it is possible to become president with as little as 23% of the popular vote. By winning the right states by just one vote, you can win the presidency with only 29.9 million out of a 130 million votes cast. Suppose Trump loss the popular vote by 100 million votes but got the 270 electoral votes he needed, he could still be president but I wonder how much support would there be for electoral college.

How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote

Good to see you are figuring out we are not a democracy, but a constitutional republic..

 

[Peach]

Dallas also has a large population; the EC was set up since lack of transportation made voting time consuming, transporting ballots impossible in places, and was intended to reflect the popular vote. Problems begun with J.Q. Adams/Jackson, Tilden/Hayes led to riots. Clinton's popular vote victory was large enough to make the error glaring. There is no reason why my vote counts less than that of an Iowa citizen. Popular vote, OR, modified EC reflects the actual vote. Two states have modified EC.

Explain why small states (population) receive greater weighted votes.

First, you realize that GWB was elected 17 years ago without winning the popular vote. I guess you didn't like Gore either.

You had better hope no one ever changes it, or Democrats will never win another national election. Imagine if we voted the way Maine and Nebraska votes. Democrats would claim 2 electoral votes if they win the popular vote, but they would lose far more by Congressional districts. That gerrymandering comes in handy when the Republicans control so many state legislatures who design those districts. If that method was adopted by most states, imagine how much impact that would have to nullify Democrats chances.

In 2016, Hillary would have lost the Congressional districts by 230-205. She would have lost the states popular vote 30-20, but also taking DC.

That would have made Trump 290 electoral votes to Clinton's 248. That's not much different than 304-227 using the current method.

Guess what! Trump would STILL be President!

She loses again! Suck it up, buttercup!

Since it requires 270 electoral votes to win the presidency, it is possible to become president with as little as 23% of the popular vote. By winning the right states by just one vote, you can win the presidency with only 29.9 million out of a 130 million votes cast. Suppose Trump loss the popular vote by 100 million votes but got the 270 electoral votes he needed, he could still be president but I wonder how much support would there be for electoral college.

How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote

Good to see you are figuring out we are not a democracy, but a constitutional republic..

Read The Federalist Papers. A mixture of both actually.

 

[Pogo]

The electoral college system also contributes to low voter turnout and also contributes to the limiting of the states where the presidential candidates will campaign.

Since I don't live in a swing state and it always goes democrat, there is little reason to vote. If you're a republican, it's just a protest vote. If you're a democrat, it just a vote of confidence. We have a really stupid system for electing our presidents and it's not going to change.

I don't know my home state always goes for democrats, that's why I moved ...now I never ever have to bother to vote.

Actually you didn't have to bother to vote when you lived in a locked state, which I presume was Illinois.

You're in Carolina now. This is a "swing" state. That means it's one of the few where your vote means a damn at all.

 

[NoNukes]

Do you not remember Bush's victory? A Republican has not won the Presidency with the popular vote for quite some time.

2004 was sooooooooooo long ago! With Ohbummer in office in the middle, it was not that long since we only have elections every 4

Idiot!

State law has nothing to do with it but states' rights have everything to do with it. Most of the arguments against the EC are founded on complete ignorance of American history and specifically why states agreed to join the union.

State laws determine how electoral votes are won by the candidates. Nebraska and Maine use Congressional district winners to award their electoral votes. The popular vote winner gets 2 votes and the winner in each district can get the others.

I was talking about 2000. You are the idiot.

In 2004, George W Bush beat Kerry with wins in the Electoral College and the popular vote. Had Kerry won Ohio, he would have been President and Dems would have never complained about the EC again!

Bush would not have been involved in this election if he had not won 2000 because of the electoral college. Is this so hard for you to understand>

So, your idea is to blame me when you screwed up? Typical lib!

That we are able to point out mistakes? Yes typical, and you are welcome.

 

[SYTFE]

"Los Angeles county is home to more people than each of these 41 states"
Not only is it home to more people but it's home to the filthiest of humans. Southern Mexifornia is a disgusting thirdworld shithole full of disgusting low iQ thirdworlders, pole puffers, chicks with dicks and welfare sucking bottom feeders. Thank God the filth here can't elect our POTUS on their own.

If you hate California so much -- then get the fuck out. I promise you that every Californian wants you to get the fuck out as well. They want your stupid, drooling redneck inbred ass GONE. Go flee to Alabama, redneck, where you belong with all the other dying, racist pieces of shit. Your mere presence pollutes California.

 

[BrokeLoser]

"Los Angeles county is home to more people than each of these 41 states"
Not only is it home to more people but it's home to the filthiest of humans. Southern Mexifornia is a disgusting thirdworld shithole full of disgusting low iQ thirdworlders, pole puffers, chicks with dicks and welfare sucking bottom feeders. Thank God the filth here can't elect our POTUS on their own.

If you hate California so much -- then get the fuck out. I promise you that every Californian wants you to get the fuck out as well. They want your stupid, drooling redneck inbred ass GONE. Go flee to Alabama, redneck, where you belong with all the other dying, racist pieces of shit. Your mere presence pollutes California.

You "promise" huh?
Look bud, I promise you that nobody decent and productive is happy with lowlife beaners invading their communities, cities and states....they cause degradation, filth and crime everywhere they decide to inhabit. Is your preference to live amongst filth and crime....you think that's cool?
I bet you do as filth can't detect filth.
You do realize that if all the decent people who feel like I do "get the fuck out" your cockroaches, 21st century slaves, our pet humans or wetbacks as we like to call them would all starve...are you sure you want that?