Why We Are Not Making Progress Against Racism

[Vastator]

A large part of dealing with the issue of racism, lies in the obstinate belief by some; that race doesn't exist at all. Imagine trying to cure cancer when one doesn't believe it exists at all...

 

[katsteve2012]

We’re not making any more progress against racism because blacks need it to play the victim card.

"Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). "We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”


White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009)."

escholarship.org/uc/item/5fm4h8wm

I never said that I didn't recognize that it's going on to some degree still, but that blacks need continued racism to be able to play the victim card, because if the playing field is ever evened out for real, you all will still be at the bottom of the pile as a people, and you all can't handle the truth.

According to the "anti white discrimination" conspiracy believers, the playing field has been leveled and in many cases , the poor maligned white male population is actually being forced off of the field.

That seeming to be a common belief (at least in this forum), it seems like the last concern of those like you would be improving so called race relations, and the first concern would be to save yourselves.

Race relations are what they are, blacks need the turmoil to play the victim, so you'll never want to get rid of your excuse for being behind.

So the "poor me, anti white discrimination victims" don't exist?

ROFLMAO!

 

[Meathead]

We’re not making any more progress against racism because blacks need it to play the victim card.

"Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). "We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”


White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009)."

escholarship.org/uc/item/5fm4h8wm

I never said that I didn't recognize that it's going on to some degree still, but that blacks need continued racism to be able to play the victim card, because if the playing field is ever evened out for real, you all will still be at the bottom of the pile as a people, and you all can't handle the truth.

According to the "anti white discrimination" conspiracy believers, the playing field has been leveled and in many cases , the poor maligned white male population is actually being forced off of the field.

That seeming to be a common belief (at least in this forum), it seems like the last concern of those like you would be improving so called race relations, and the first concern would be to save yourselves.

Race relations are what they are, blacks need the turmoil to play the victim, so you'll never want to get rid of your excuse for being behind.

So the "poor me, anti white discrimination victims" don't exist?

ROFLMAO!

As long as blacks keep committing crimes at obscene rates and demand endless free stuff, racism will endure.

 

[Taz]

We’re not making any more progress against racism because blacks need it to play the victim card.

"Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). "We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”


White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009)."

escholarship.org/uc/item/5fm4h8wm

I never said that I didn't recognize that it's going on to some degree still, but that blacks need continued racism to be able to play the victim card, because if the playing field is ever evened out for real, you all will still be at the bottom of the pile as a people, and you all can't handle the truth.

No, the reason why whites have refused to level the playing field is they will sink to the bottom. This has always been the fear whites have had when any attempt has been made to do such.

Oh c'mon, look at Africa, left on your own, it's a fucking mess. Worst continent of all of them!

 

[Taz]

We’re not making any more progress against racism because blacks need it to play the victim card.

"Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). "We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”


White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009)."

escholarship.org/uc/item/5fm4h8wm

I never said that I didn't recognize that it's going on to some degree still, but that blacks need continued racism to be able to play the victim card, because if the playing field is ever evened out for real, you all will still be at the bottom of the pile as a people, and you all can't handle the truth.

According to the "anti white discrimination" conspiracy believers, the playing field has been leveled and in many cases , the poor maligned white male population is actually being forced off of the field.
Not what I said at all. Please re-read my post and try again.
That seeming to be a common belief (at least in this forum), it seems like the last concern of those like you would be improving so called race relations, and the first concern would be to save yourselves.

Race relations are what they are, blacks need the turmoil to play the victim, so you'll never want to get rid of your excuse for being behind.

So the "poor me, anti white discrimination victims" don't exist?

ROFLMAO!

 

[Unkotare]

We’re not making any more progress against racism because blacks need it to play the victim card.

"Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). "We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”


White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009)."

escholarship.org/uc/item/5fm4h8wm

I never said that I didn't recognize that it's going on to some degree still, but that blacks need continued racism to be able to play the victim card, because if the playing field is ever evened out for real, you all will still be at the bottom of the pile as a people, and you all can't handle the truth.

No, the reason why whites have refused to level the playing field is they will sink to the bottom. This has always been the fear whites have had when any attempt has been made to do such.

Get a room you two. The sexual tension between you two racist humps is disgusting.

Says the tranny.

Keep your deviant fantasies between you and your boyfriend im2.

 

[Taz]

"Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). "We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”


White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009)."

escholarship.org/uc/item/5fm4h8wm

I never said that I didn't recognize that it's going on to some degree still, but that blacks need continued racism to be able to play the victim card, because if the playing field is ever evened out for real, you all will still be at the bottom of the pile as a people, and you all can't handle the truth.

No, the reason why whites have refused to level the playing field is they will sink to the bottom. This has always been the fear whites have had when any attempt has been made to do such.

Get a room you two. The sexual tension between you two racist humps is disgusting.

Says the tranny.

Keep your deviant fantasies between you and your boyfriend im2.

You're the one going on about "sexual tension" and deviant fantasies. Have some bad dreams last night?

 

[IM2]

"Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). "We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”


White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009)."

escholarship.org/uc/item/5fm4h8wm

I never said that I didn't recognize that it's going on to some degree still, but that blacks need continued racism to be able to play the victim card, because if the playing field is ever evened out for real, you all will still be at the bottom of the pile as a people, and you all can't handle the truth.

According to the "anti white discrimination" conspiracy believers, the playing field has been leveled and in many cases , the poor maligned white male population is actually being forced off of the field.

That seeming to be a common belief (at least in this forum), it seems like the last concern of those like you would be improving so called race relations, and the first concern would be to save yourselves.

Race relations are what they are, blacks need the turmoil to play the victim, so you'll never want to get rid of your excuse for being behind.

So the "poor me, anti white discrimination victims" don't exist?

ROFLMAO!

As long as blacks keep committing crimes at obscene rates and demand endless free stuff, racism will endure.

Since that doesn't happen then racism should be over according to you.

 

[Unkotare]

I never said that I didn't recognize that it's going on to some degree still, but that blacks need continued racism to be able to play the victim card, because if the playing field is ever evened out for real, you all will still be at the bottom of the pile as a people, and you all can't handle the truth.

No, the reason why whites have refused to level the playing field is they will sink to the bottom. This has always been the fear whites have had when any attempt has been made to do such.

Get a room you two. The sexual tension between you two racist humps is disgusting.

Says the tranny.

Keep your deviant fantasies between you and your boyfriend im2.

You're the one going on about "sexual tension" and deviant fantasies. ....

You should take it as a hint for you and im2 to stop drooling all over each other.

 

[Taz]

No, the reason why whites have refused to level the playing field is they will sink to the bottom. This has always been the fear whites have had when any attempt has been made to do such.

Get a room you two. The sexual tension between you two racist humps is disgusting.

Says the tranny.

Keep your deviant fantasies between you and your boyfriend im2.

You're the one going on about "sexual tension" and deviant fantasies. ....

You should take it as a hint for you and im2 to stop drooling all over each other.

You're the only one taking about man hugs and sexual tension between men. Probably means something.

 

[Meathead]

I never said that I didn't recognize that it's going on to some degree still, but that blacks need continued racism to be able to play the victim card, because if the playing field is ever evened out for real, you all will still be at the bottom of the pile as a people, and you all can't handle the truth.

According to the "anti white discrimination" conspiracy believers, the playing field has been leveled and in many cases , the poor maligned white male population is actually being forced off of the field.

That seeming to be a common belief (at least in this forum), it seems like the last concern of those like you would be improving so called race relations, and the first concern would be to save yourselves.

Race relations are what they are, blacks need the turmoil to play the victim, so you'll never want to get rid of your excuse for being behind.

So the "poor me, anti white discrimination victims" don't exist?

ROFLMAO!

As long as blacks keep committing crimes at obscene rates and demand endless free stuff, racism will endure.

Since that doesn't happen then racism should be over according to you.

Yup. Parasites are not popular. If you choose to call it "racism", so be it. I don't give a rat's ass.

 

[IM2]

According to the "anti white discrimination" conspiracy believers, the playing field has been leveled and in many cases , the poor maligned white male population is actually being forced off of the field.

That seeming to be a common belief (at least in this forum), it seems like the last concern of those like you would be improving so called race relations, and the first concern would be to save yourselves.

Race relations are what they are, blacks need the turmoil to play the victim, so you'll never want to get rid of your excuse for being behind.

So the "poor me, anti white discrimination victims" don't exist?

ROFLMAO!

As long as blacks keep committing crimes at obscene rates and demand endless free stuff, racism will endure.

Since that doesn't happen then racism should be over according to you.

Yup. Parasites are not popular. If you choose to call it "racism", so be it. I don't give a rat's ass.

Whites have been parasites for 242 years. Seems to be pretty popular among you.

 

[Paul Essien]

Because black people are at the bottom of the national barrel. Simple as that.

And this is an unspoken cultural agreement

White is at the top and black is at the bottom.

The endpoints are the most important parts of the scale.

All other races fall in between.

Black Americans are second-class citizens. And everybody knows it.

That’s why when people with black ancestry have the option they choose to be white. (Did u know? The black population has been shrinking from day one, despite birth and immigration rates, because of racial attrition: every decade, a not-insignificant number of black people decide not to be black anymore.)

It’s why many black Latinos don’t check the “black” box on the census, and say so outright. Because they know there are benefits— real, material benefits— to being anything-but-black.

It’s why one of the very first things immigrants learn is how race works in America— and how imperative it is to separate themselves from black people. That's why you have non white guys like abu afak who is as anti black as Richard Spencer.

It’s why so many white Americans who are in a pinch and want to get away with something instinctively blame a black person. Even small children will do this. The authorities show up, they panic, and boom, that’s what they come up with. (See: “phantom black man” syndrome.) Because at some level they know that all our systems, social to legal, vastly prefer that scenario.

And so on. Everyone knows this. Right up front, or in their heart of hearts.

Real talk, anti-blackness is literally fundamental to America: it is built into its foundation. And it’s not going anywhere.

That’s the brutal truth

 

[IM2]

Because black people are at the bottom of the national barrel. Simple as that.

And this is an unspoken cultural agreement

White is at the top and black is at the bottom.

The endpoints are the most important parts of the scale.

All other races fall in between.

Black Americans are second-class citizens. And everybody knows it.

That’s why when people with black ancestry have the option they choose to be white. (Did u know? The black population has been shrinking from day one, despite birth and immigration rates, because of racial attrition: every decade, a not-insignificant number of black people decide not to be black anymore.)

It’s why many black Latinos don’t check the “black” box on the census, and say so outright. Because they know there are benefits— real, material benefits— to being anything-but-black.

It’s why one of the very first things immigrants learn is how race works in America— and how imperative it is to separate themselves from black people. That's why you have non white guys like abu afak who is as anti black as Richard Spencer.

It’s why so many white Americans who are in a pinch and want to get away with something instinctively blame a black person. Even small children will do this. The authorities show up, they panic, and boom, that’s what they come up with. (See: “phantom black man” syndrome.) Because at some level they know that all our systems, social to legal, vastly prefer that scenario.

And so on. Everyone knows this. Right up front, or in their heart of hearts.

Real talk, anti-blackness is literally fundamental to America: it is built into its foundation. And it’s not going anywhere.

That’s the brutal truth

Preach!

 

[Unkotare]

Get a room you two. The sexual tension between you two racist humps is disgusting.

Says the tranny.

Keep your deviant fantasies between you and your boyfriend im2.

You're the one going on about "sexual tension" and deviant fantasies. ....

You should take it as a hint for you and im2 to stop drooling all over each other.

You're the only one taking about man hugs and sexual tension between men. Probably means something.

Yeah, it means you two should get a room and keep your mutual affection for one another to yourselves.

 

[Taz]

Says the tranny.

Keep your deviant fantasies between you and your boyfriend im2.

You're the one going on about "sexual tension" and deviant fantasies. ....

You should take it as a hint for you and im2 to stop drooling all over each other.

You're the only one taking about man hugs and sexual tension between men. Probably means something.

Yeah, it means you two should get a room and keep your mutual affection for one another to yourselves.

What a fucking doofus you are, always thinking about man on man grinding. You faggot.

 

[Taz]

Because black people are at the bottom of the national barrel. Simple as that.

And this is an unspoken cultural agreement

White is at the top and black is at the bottom.

The endpoints are the most important parts of the scale.

All other races fall in between.

Black Americans are second-class citizens. And everybody knows it.

That’s why when people with black ancestry have the option they choose to be white. (Did u know? The black population has been shrinking from day one, despite birth and immigration rates, because of racial attrition: every decade, a not-insignificant number of black people decide not to be black anymore.)

It’s why many black Latinos don’t check the “black” box on the census, and say so outright. Because they know there are benefits— real, material benefits— to being anything-but-black.

It’s why one of the very first things immigrants learn is how race works in America— and how imperative it is to separate themselves from black people. That's why you have non white guys like abu afak who is as anti black as Richard Spencer.

It’s why so many white Americans who are in a pinch and want to get away with something instinctively blame a black person. Even small children will do this. The authorities show up, they panic, and boom, that’s what they come up with. (See: “phantom black man” syndrome.) Because at some level they know that all our systems, social to legal, vastly prefer that scenario.

And so on. Everyone knows this. Right up front, or in their heart of hearts.

Real talk, anti-blackness is literally fundamental to America: it is built into its foundation. And it’s not going anywhere.

That’s the brutal truth

If you're at the bottom of the barrel, what are you going to do to pick yourself out of there? Stay in school? Pull your pants up? Just complain about honky?