Why the Process is Not Working

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    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- system was a pretty fine system pre 80s , imo . Things have been getting worse since the early 80s , once again in my opinion . -------------- just a comment . I can't prove my comment but I remember what things in the USA were like pre 80s Fenton .
     
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    I totally agree that the economic system and thus the political system was rerigged in the 80's. But again, by design from the very beginning, america was not a system of representation for all, america has always been an authoritarian power structure.
     
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    -------------------------------------------------------------- course my opinion is simply based on my personal memories and seeing the lives of my Grandparents , Parents and then my life which has been pretty good for my 68 years . Plus , I am mostly talking about personal freedom which in my opinion has been seriously diminishing and going bye bye since the 80s Fenton . [imo]
     
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    I would agree, I just see it all as connected, and utterly bipartisan.
     
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    I think of the Duopoly as a giant puppet show, with a single puppeteer dressing up his characters alternately i red or blue, which we in the audience are supposed to believe are two different things. Too few people take the time to look up and follow the strings.
     
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    The strings lead back to the same authoritarian puppeteer hands.
     
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    most important thing to me is MY personal freedom , other then that I just don't care . But the personal freedoms are disappearing . Off topic and just a comment .
     
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    Alternatively, 45 percent of people gave the "process" the finger.
     
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    From #17 above:

    "You didn't address the flaw in any way whatsoever. Thanks for the confirmation, but I already knew that. Hence the OP. Very well not done anything about."

    Flaw? What flaw? I do not claim that our election process is flawed. The OP does. Specifically I favor the traditional electoral college over a popular vote.

    In any state in which the polls do not reflect a close race, there's no point in voting at all. You can vote for the way your state is leaning toward, the way your state is leaning against, or you can stay home. All three actions guarantee the same result. The state votes unanimously, regardless how its voters voted.

    The same would be as true under a popular vote system.
    Actually there is not much truth to your statement because polls are at best a (hopefully) educated guess. At worst they may well be a deliberate effort to manipulate voters..



     
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    Eggs - ackley, thank you.

    That's the point, to explore why that is.
     

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