Why the hate?

[FurthurBB]

Atheists also do not worship science.

 

[Photonic]

I've been an atheist since I was a teenager and I don't really hate religion at all. As Joe said, it's a little scary sometimes, and it does occasionally feel like I'm living in a world of slightly crazy people - but I can say that about a lot of things besides religion.

A few years back, I shared an apartment with a co-worker who had just become an atheist after a 30 years of being a born-again Christian. When he found out that I didn't believe, he would come home and go on and on railing about all the evils of religion and I remember that it made me very uncomfortable. He was really filled with a bitter resentment toward religion that I just didn't share.

But in a way, it made sense. I remember him saying how he felt like he'd been lied too all his life by the people he trusted, and that his whole life had been based on a delusion. It always sort of made me sad to listen to him rant - though I think that for him it was a cathartic expression of freedom and independence.

I wouldn't hate it had they not brainwashed me beginning at age 2 and caused me to live my life diametrically opposite to what I would have otherwise done. That doesn't even mention that it was responsible for two of my children also brainwashing their children....six of my eight grandchildren. Phuck Jesus and the jackass he rode in on.

The worst part is you have to lie to your family for years and even decades, while their love is completely contingent on you absolutely sharing their beliefs.

 

[Photonic]

Atheists also do not worship science.

That would be scientism, which is a religion.

 

[FurthurBB]

Atheists also do not worship science.

That would be scientism, which is actually a religion.

I do not understand why some people feel the need to make things up about people who do not have the same world view as they have and use that to prop up their views. That is lying. It seems to be endemic in some circles, like some conspiracy believers as well as those that do not understand evolution and think they don't believe in it, and the antivax people. It seems to me that if you are religious, it does not bode well for your faith if you have to use that approach.

 

[westwall]

If there is an atheist here that hates religion, there is almost a 100% chance they are absolutely justified.

Trust me, whatever hate you experience from an atheist here, they get it a thousand fold in real life.

Really? Where? I deal with atheists and religious people on a weekly basis. The religious folks pretty much keep to themselves and are nice (in general, there's allways a jackass in every group) the atheists as well are fine to deal with...until they spot a religious person, then they will quite often go out of their way to generate a confrontation.

This occurs in every State and most countries I travel to. There are some very bizarre religious folks as well, don't get me wrong, but other then a-holes like the WBC, they tend to avoid confrontation.

 

[Photonic]

If there is an atheist here that hates religion, there is almost a 100% chance they are absolutely justified.

Trust me, whatever hate you experience from an atheist here, they get it a thousand fold in real life.

Really? Where? I deal with atheists and religious people on a weekly basis. The religious folks pretty much keep to themselves and are nice (in general, there's allways a jackass in every group) the atheists as well are fine to deal with...until they spot a religious person, then they will quite often go out of their way to generate a confrontation.

This occurs in every State and most countries I travel to. There are some very bizarre religious folks as well, don't get me wrong, but other then a-holes like the WBC, they tend to avoid confrontation.

Yes, as an atheist, most of my friends are atheist, I have never known one of my friends to be anything but tolerant towards benign religion. Yes, I have a few religions friends too, they are pretty cool and tolerate people as well.

I mean yea, if you force religion into the face of an atheist, they are likely to be uncomfortable about it, but aren't you uncomfortable when you get preached to by another religion?

 

[editec]

Q: Why are so many here who CLAIM to be followers of Christ so hateful?

A: Because they're not really christians, they're Judeo-Christians. No group of believers on earth are as confused as that breed.

They profess to believe in the loving GOD as described by Jesus Christ, but then they take most of their POV about their religion from a JEALOUS AND VENGFUL GOD.

So in their case their HATE is faith based.

 

[westwall]

If there is an atheist here that hates religion, there is almost a 100% chance they are absolutely justified.

Trust me, whatever hate you experience from an atheist here, they get it a thousand fold in real life.

Really? Where? I deal with atheists and religious people on a weekly basis. The religious folks pretty much keep to themselves and are nice (in general, there's allways a jackass in every group) the atheists as well are fine to deal with...until they spot a religious person, then they will quite often go out of their way to generate a confrontation.

This occurs in every State and most countries I travel to. There are some very bizarre religious folks as well, don't get me wrong, but other then a-holes like the WBC, they tend to avoid confrontation.

Yes, as an atheist, most of my friends are atheist, I have never known one of my friends to be anything but tolerant towards benign religion. Yes, I have a few religions friends too, they are pretty cool and tolerate people as well.

I mean yea, if you force religion into the face of an atheist, they are likely to be uncomfortable about it, but aren't you uncomfortable when you get preached to by another religion?

Not even forced. I have seen an atheist walk right over to a person who has a cross on or some other little symbol of some type and read them the riot act. That is just as offensive a behaviour as a religious person knocking on your door trying to convert you. Which I have not seen in decades now though I am sure it still occurs in some places.

 

[Photonic]

Q: Why are so many here who CLAIM to be followers of Christ so hateful?

A: Because they're not really christians, they're Judeo-Christians. No group of believers on earth are as confused as that breed.

They profess to believe in the loving GOD as described by Jesus Christ, but then they take most of their POV about their religion from a JEALOUS AND VENGFUL GOD.

So in their case their HATE is faith based.

As Ghandi once said(possibly);

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

 

[Photonic]

Really? Where? I deal with atheists and religious people on a weekly basis. The religious folks pretty much keep to themselves and are nice (in general, there's allways a jackass in every group) the atheists as well are fine to deal with...until they spot a religious person, then they will quite often go out of their way to generate a confrontation.

This occurs in every State and most countries I travel to. There are some very bizarre religious folks as well, don't get me wrong, but other then a-holes like the WBC, they tend to avoid confrontation.

Yes, as an atheist, most of my friends are atheist, I have never known one of my friends to be anything but tolerant towards benign religion. Yes, I have a few religions friends too, they are pretty cool and tolerate people as well.

I mean yea, if you force religion into the face of an atheist, they are likely to be uncomfortable about it, but aren't you uncomfortable when you get preached to by another religion?

Not even forced. I have seen an atheist walk right over to a person who has a cross on or some other little symbol of some type and read them the riot act. That is just as offensive a behaviour as a religious person knocking on your door trying to convert you. Which I have not seen in decades now though I am sure it still occurs in some places.

I absolutely agree, but I've never known an atheist as militant as that in my life. I also know they account for the smallest population of atheists, and are considered just as religious in their atheism as an evangelical is.

 

[westwall]

Yes, as an atheist, most of my friends are atheist, I have never known one of my friends to be anything but tolerant towards benign religion. Yes, I have a few religions friends too, they are pretty cool and tolerate people as well.

I mean yea, if you force religion into the face of an atheist, they are likely to be uncomfortable about it, but aren't you uncomfortable when you get preached to by another religion?

Not even forced. I have seen an atheist walk right over to a person who has a cross on or some other little symbol of some type and read them the riot act. That is just as offensive a behaviour as a religious person knocking on your door trying to convert you. Which I have not seen in decades now though I am sure it still occurs in some places.

I absolutely agree, but I've never known an atheist as militant as that in my life. I also know they account for the smallest population of atheists, and are considered just as religious in their atheism as an evangelical is.

Based on the posts here, and observed behavior, I can't agree with that. I think there are an equal number of evangeliclal atheists on this forum as there are evangelical religious types. And most of them are nasty about it. In the real world I never see religious types seeking out confrontation. It happens I am positive but not in this area. Atheists though, worlwide do so.

Well check that, I never see that type of activity in Muslim countries. Ever.

 

[Photonic]

Not even forced. I have seen an atheist walk right over to a person who has a cross on or some other little symbol of some type and read them the riot act. That is just as offensive a behaviour as a religious person knocking on your door trying to convert you. Which I have not seen in decades now though I am sure it still occurs in some places.

I absolutely agree, but I've never known an atheist as militant as that in my life. I also know they account for the smallest population of atheists, and are considered just as religious in their atheism as an evangelical is.

Based on the posts here, and observed behavior, I can't agree with that. I think there are an equal number of evangeliclal atheists on this forum as there are evangelical religious types. And most of them are nasty about it. In the real world I never see religious types seeking out confrontation. It happens I am positive but not in this area. Atheists though, worlwide do so.

Well check that, I never see that type of activity in Muslim countries. Ever.

Because they KILL atheists. Just like the Church has done for thousands of years.

 

[FurthurBB]

Really? Where? I deal with atheists and religious people on a weekly basis. The religious folks pretty much keep to themselves and are nice (in general, there's allways a jackass in every group) the atheists as well are fine to deal with...until they spot a religious person, then they will quite often go out of their way to generate a confrontation.

This occurs in every State and most countries I travel to. There are some very bizarre religious folks as well, don't get me wrong, but other then a-holes like the WBC, they tend to avoid confrontation.

Yes, as an atheist, most of my friends are atheist, I have never known one of my friends to be anything but tolerant towards benign religion. Yes, I have a few religions friends too, they are pretty cool and tolerate people as well.

I mean yea, if you force religion into the face of an atheist, they are likely to be uncomfortable about it, but aren't you uncomfortable when you get preached to by another religion?

Not even forced. I have seen an atheist walk right over to a person who has a cross on or some other little symbol of some type and read them the riot act. That is just as offensive a behaviour as a religious person knocking on your door trying to convert you. Which I have not seen in decades now though I am sure it still occurs in some places.

Odd, I work in a profession dominated by the non-religious and have never seen that once in my entire life.

 

[FurthurBB]

Not even forced. I have seen an atheist walk right over to a person who has a cross on or some other little symbol of some type and read them the riot act. That is just as offensive a behaviour as a religious person knocking on your door trying to convert you. Which I have not seen in decades now though I am sure it still occurs in some places.

I absolutely agree, but I've never known an atheist as militant as that in my life. I also know they account for the smallest population of atheists, and are considered just as religious in their atheism as an evangelical is.

Based on the posts here, and observed behavior, I can't agree with that. I think there are an equal number of evangeliclal atheists on this forum as there are evangelical religious types. And most of them are nasty about it. In the real world I never see religious types seeking out confrontation. It happens I am positive but not in this area. Atheists though, worlwide do so.

Well check that, I never see that type of activity in Muslim countries. Ever.

I have only known a handful of religious people that do not become confrontational when they find out someone does not believe in god. Well, a handful of non-Jewish religious people I should say because most of my religious friends are Jewish and only when drinking do they want to debate, and it is real intellectual debate, not confrontation.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Really? Where? I deal with atheists and religious people on a weekly basis. The religious folks pretty much keep to themselves and are nice (in general, there's allways a jackass in every group) the atheists as well are fine to deal with...until they spot a religious person, then they will quite often go out of their way to generate a confrontation.

This occurs in every State and most countries I travel to. There are some very bizarre religious folks as well, don't get me wrong, but other then a-holes like the WBC, they tend to avoid confrontation.

Yes, as an atheist, most of my friends are atheist, I have never known one of my friends to be anything but tolerant towards benign religion. Yes, I have a few religions friends too, they are pretty cool and tolerate people as well.

I mean yea, if you force religion into the face of an atheist, they are likely to be uncomfortable about it, but aren't you uncomfortable when you get preached to by another religion?

Not even forced. I have seen an atheist walk right over to a person who has a cross on or some other little symbol of some type and read them the riot act. That is just as offensive a behaviour as a religious person knocking on your door trying to convert you. Which I have not seen in decades now though I am sure it still occurs in some places.

I've never seen anything even resembling that during my whole life.....'course I'm just 77

Face It....all or at least most of us were taught to never bring up religion or politics in polite conversation. Most of us don't. Here on an Internet discussion forum where one never meets other members face to face and can remain relatvely anonymous.....it's a different set of rules.

 

[AVG-JOE]

I've been an atheist since I was a teenager and I don't really hate religion at all. As Joe said, it's a little scary sometimes, and it does occasionally feel like I'm living in a world of slightly crazy people - but I can say that about a lot of things besides religion.

A few years back, I shared an apartment with a co-worker who had just become an atheist after a 30 years of being a born-again Christian. When he found out that I didn't believe, he would come home and go on and on railing about all the evils of religion and I remember that it made me very uncomfortable. He was really filled with a bitter resentment toward religion that I just didn't share.

But in a way, it made sense. I remember him saying how he felt like he'd been lied too all his life by the people he trusted, and that his whole life had been based on a delusion. It always sort of made me sad to listen to him rant - though I think that for him it was a cathartic expression of freedom and independence.

I wouldn't hate it had they not brainwashed me beginning at age 2 and caused me to live my life diametrically opposite to what I would have otherwise done. That doesn't even mention that it was responsible for two of my children also brainwashing their children....six of my eight grandchildren. Phuck Jesus and the jackass he rode in on.

Given the stretch of history we were given the gift of life in, statistically, you and I ended up right in the middle of 'average' for this moment in history, the dawn of the information age. We both spent time indoctrinated in some sect of what can only be truthfully described at that moment in history as America's National Faith: Christian.

We are among the luckiest of Momma's Little Bastards. We have a choice. We get to choose to live among the last generation beaten down and forced to live in darkness or among the first generation to begin walking openly in the light of true religious and personal freedom.

It's your choice Brother, but what good does it do you to be bitter?

 

[AVG-JOE]

Really? Where? I deal with atheists and religious people on a weekly basis. The religious folks pretty much keep to themselves and are nice (in general, there's allways a jackass in every group) the atheists as well are fine to deal with...until they spot a religious person, then they will quite often go out of their way to generate a confrontation.

This occurs in every State and most countries I travel to. There are some very bizarre religious folks as well, don't get me wrong, but other then a-holes like the WBC, they tend to avoid confrontation.

Yes, as an atheist, most of my friends are atheist, I have never known one of my friends to be anything but tolerant towards benign religion. Yes, I have a few religions friends too, they are pretty cool and tolerate people as well.

I mean yea, if you force religion into the face of an atheist, they are likely to be uncomfortable about it, but aren't you uncomfortable when you get preached to by another religion?

Not even forced. I have seen an atheist walk right over to a person who has a cross on or some other little symbol of some type and read them the riot act. That is just as offensive a behaviour as a religious person knocking on your door trying to convert you. Which I have not seen in decades now though I am sure it still occurs in some places.

Bad behavior is bad behavior. Whether it's a MADD Momma reading the riot act to a drunk who is otherwise minding his own business, or a 'friend' of Mother Nature reading the riot act to a corporate fat-cat, or a misguided atheist taking out frustration on a believer, bad behavior is bad behavior.

Especially when it involves Mom!

 

[westwall]

I absolutely agree, but I've never known an atheist as militant as that in my life. I also know they account for the smallest population of atheists, and are considered just as religious in their atheism as an evangelical is.

Based on the posts here, and observed behavior, I can't agree with that. I think there are an equal number of evangeliclal atheists on this forum as there are evangelical religious types. And most of them are nasty about it. In the real world I never see religious types seeking out confrontation. It happens I am positive but not in this area. Atheists though, worlwide do so.

Well check that, I never see that type of activity in Muslim countries. Ever.

Because they KILL atheists. Just like the Church has done for thousands of years.

The Catholic Church stopped murdering atheists at least two centuries ago. There are loons (of all persuasions) who will cloak their murderous acts in the mantle of whatever religion they choose, but the religions are not to blame, the people are. And atheists have murdered far more people in 100 years then the Catholic Church did in 2,000.

It helps that there are a hell of a lot more people now then there was way back in history, but that is no excuse for the fact that atheists have murdered well over 100 million in less then a century.

 

[Photonic]

Based on the posts here, and observed behavior, I can't agree with that. I think there are an equal number of evangeliclal atheists on this forum as there are evangelical religious types. And most of them are nasty about it. In the real world I never see religious types seeking out confrontation. It happens I am positive but not in this area. Atheists though, worlwide do so.

Well check that, I never see that type of activity in Muslim countries. Ever.

Because they KILL atheists. Just like the Church has done for thousands of years.

The Catholic Church stopped murdering atheists at least two centuries ago. There are loons (of all persuasions) who will cloak their murderous acts in the mantle of whatever religion they choose, but the religions are not to blame, the people are. And atheists have murdered far more people in 100 years then the Catholic Church did in 2,000.

It helps that there are a hell of a lot more people now then there was way back in history, but that is no excuse for the fact that atheists have murdered well over 100 million in less then a century.

That's a bullshit lie that has been spread by the religious to continue their persecution against atheists.

Stalinism and Nazism were just as much a religion as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, etc.

It's called the False Cause Fallacy, you have to back up your claim that atheism caused their actions. Especially considering both Stalin and Hitler were known theists.

 

[westwall]

I absolutely agree, but I've never known an atheist as militant as that in my life. I also know they account for the smallest population of atheists, and are considered just as religious in their atheism as an evangelical is.

Based on the posts here, and observed behavior, I can't agree with that. I think there are an equal number of evangeliclal atheists on this forum as there are evangelical religious types. And most of them are nasty about it. In the real world I never see religious types seeking out confrontation. It happens I am positive but not in this area. Atheists though, worlwide do so.

Well check that, I never see that type of activity in Muslim countries. Ever.

I have only known a handful of religious people that do not become confrontational when they find out someone does not believe in god. Well, a handful of non-Jewish religious people I should say because most of my religious friends are Jewish and only when drinking do they want to debate, and it is real intellectual debate, not confrontation.

I have religious people all around me (I am an agnostic) and they never annoy me. I have one atheist who lives 3 miles away and when he see's me he will quite quickly launch into a "how can you tolerate all those religious nutballs around you" diatribe.

I don't see religious people filing lawsuits all time like I see with atheists out here. I will grant you there are many geographical differences but over all I would rather live next to a fellow agnostic then an atheist.