Why the fuck aren't we stopping all passengers from IBOLA infected regions?

[bripat9643]

That entire article bases it's claim on two obviously bogus points:

1. That bans didn't work before
2. That bans would cause much needed supplies and aid to the countries to stop.

1. They claim that bans on HIV patient's travel did not stop it from spreading, never mind that it had spread to almost every country in the world before anyone knew what it was.

2. NO ONE is saying don't allow supplies and aid to go in. We are only asking to stop commercial flights.

It's politics, not common sense that prevents a travel ban.

1) Name one instance in modern times (or at any other time, for that matter) when a travel ban led to the eradication of a disease vector.

2) It does worse than that. It disrupts commerce and destabilizes entire regions affected by the ban.

1 (3) Erm, what ban on HIV, where?

2 (4) Not going to happen.

1. No one is saying that a travel ban will eradicate the disease vector.

2. The disease itself has already disrupted commerce and destabilized the region.

3. The HIV ban that they used as an example in the article that YOU linked to. Did you even read it?

4. You are correct, it probably isn't going to happen, but that is irrelevant.

1) Right, then you are admitting that your only purpose in supporting such a travel ban is a racist attitude having nothing to do with the epidemic. Glad we got that straightened out.

2) And if you institute a travel ban, the disruption and destabilization will be orders of magnitude worse.

3) Yes

4) Right, then you are going to stop this nonsense, right?

1. No, but with your limited mental capacity and your left wing but blinders on, I'm sure that that was all you could get from that.

2. Complete bull shit. How much of those nations economy depends on their people leaving the country? You're a moron.

3. Then why the fuck did you ask me: "what HIV travel ban?"

4. Do you know what "irrelevant" means dumbass?

If you want to know how travel bans affect economies, all you need do is analyze the economy of North Korea.

Who cares how it affects their economies? How Ebola affects ours is more imortant.

 

[PredFan]

1) Right, then you are admitting that your only purpose in supporting such a travel ban is a racist attitude having nothing to do with the epidemic. Glad we got that straightened out.

2) And if you institute a travel ban, the disruption and destabilization will be orders of magnitude worse.

3) Yes

4) Right, then you are going to stop this nonsense, right?

1. No, but with your limited mental capacity and your left wing but blinders on, I'm sure that that was all you could get from that.

2. Complete bull shit. How much of those nations economy depends on their people leaving the country? You're a moron.

3. Then why the fuck did you ask me: "what HIV travel ban?"

4. Do you know what "irrelevant" means dumbass?

If you want to know how travel bans affect economies, all you need do is analyze the economy of North Korea.

You are one dumb assed lefty.

Since I am not the one proposing we become another North Korea, try again. Or not. Either way, I don't give a shite.

There's a big difference between restricting visas to the citizens of Ebola nations and becoming North Korea.

He's a fucking idiot.

 

[PredFan]

Why not? Seriously?

I'd rather not give it a change to test NY City rats as a host

Is that understandable?

Level IV protocols are two-fold: to keep the medical professionals safe AND TO KEEP THE VIRUS FROM VECTORING OUT INTO IMMEDIATE AREA

Was that too hard to understand?

It's not hard to understand, it's just not a real concern. They have rodents in Africa, but it is not carried by them. You think rats are going to get into the hospital's bio-containment suites? Highly doubtful.

Honestly you're a fucking dope. There's just no nice way to say it

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Honestly, I know more about viruses and infectious diseases than you or anyone else on this board. Out of respect for a fellow conservative I'll do you the favor of not returning the insult.

I'm at a loss to deal with the "Ebola -- no biggie" attitude from you, Friden and Obama. It's insane. Obama and Frieden are bioterrorists looking to wipe out large portions of the US population.

The NY Doctor is POSITIVE for Ebola!

He was roaming the biggest city in the USA carrying a Level IV pathogen. It's shocking, staggering. CDC should have isolated him in Africa and never allowed him on a plane.I don't much respect either your knowledge or Frieden's knowledge, or anybody who says it's safe to fly when infected with a Slate Cleaning virus.

Sorry for the insult, but I'd go at this a whole different way and not take a chance on letting Ebola find an American host.

Infuckingsanity

Betcha no one gets infected due to him. Unless it's another lazy and careless nurse who is taking care of him.

 

[PredFan]

1) Name one instance in modern times (or at any other time, for that matter) when a travel ban led to the eradication of a disease vector.

2) It does worse than that. It disrupts commerce and destabilizes entire regions affected by the ban.

1 (3) Erm, what ban on HIV, where?

2 (4) Not going to happen.

1. No one is saying that a travel ban will eradicate the disease vector.

2. The disease itself has already disrupted commerce and destabilized the region.

3. The HIV ban that they used as an example in the article that YOU linked to. Did you even read it?

4. You are correct, it probably isn't going to happen, but that is irrelevant.

1) Right, then you are admitting that your only purpose in supporting such a travel ban is a racist attitude having nothing to do with the epidemic. Glad we got that straightened out.

2) And if you institute a travel ban, the disruption and destabilization will be orders of magnitude worse.

3) Yes

4) Right, then you are going to stop this nonsense, right?

1. No, but with your limited mental capacity and your left wing but blinders on, I'm sure that that was all you could get from that.

2. Complete bull shit. How much of those nations economy depends on their people leaving the country? You're a moron.

3. Then why the fuck did you ask me: "what HIV travel ban?"

4. Do you know what "irrelevant" means dumbass?

If you want to know how travel bans affect economies, all you need do is analyze the economy of North Korea.

Who cares how it affects their economies? How Ebola affects ours is more imortant.

Lefties with a little more brainpower than that moron, try to say that if their economy collapses, it will make it more difficult to stop the spread in that country. They don't really explain how that is supposed to happen, but lefties don't ask a whole lot of questions from their leaders. Supposedly then if there is economic chaos somehow the virus comes here. I have no idea how, it's just what the left says.

 

[TooTall]

So? Does that mean we want to introduce a deadly disease into the US? If we can prevent more people from getting sick here in the US, why wouldn't we take the appropriate precautions?

Why are people fighting against perhaps restricting travel from certain Ebola hot spots around the world? What exactly is the issue with that? If it would prevent even 1 United States citizen from dying from Ebola, it would be worth the effort, no?

I don't understand what all the fuss is about.

If you want to prevent deadly diseases from arriving here, there is only one solution: Stop it at the source. This minor issue here has taken attention from the real issue - fighting the disease where it can actually do good, in Africa.

I think you know that's a pipe dream. The next best thing is to restrict travel. Besides, I'm quite sure that a lot of our money already goes to Africa for various causes, not to mention the money people donate through various charities. I don't things in Africa could ever be like they are here in America not matter how much money we throw at them.

It isn't a pipe dream at all. Small pox was eradicated. The measles is all but a thing of the past. Vaccines are in the pipeline for Ebola. Fighting this disease at the source is the ONLY answer. But let's look at this idea of restricting travel. To who does it apply? France had a case. Let's stop all travel from France. Germany had a case. Shut them down. UK? Not yet. Stay tuned. Nigeria had it, but they've stopped it in its tracks. Never the less, they present a risk in your view, so they can't come either. That, of course, fucks up Chevron's American employees who work there and travel back and forth all the time (as well as many others). The simple fact is that it will never work, will never prevent someone with the disease from getting through, will not prevent someone with the disease from traveling to a country without such restriction and then traveling on to the U.S.: But it WILL kill business for Africans, for Americans, and for many others.

I could be wrong, but I believe a VISA has to be issued by the US Embassy to anyone that wants to travel to the US. Stop issuing them except for an emergency. American Chevron employees are relatively safe since they most certainly did not have anything to do with a West African that was dead or dying from Ebola.

American Chevron employees travel all over west Africa. So tell me again how you know they are safe.

I don't, but they very easily could be put in quarantine for 21 days upon return to the US.

 

[ChrisL]

1. No one is saying that a travel ban will eradicate the disease vector.

2. The disease itself has already disrupted commerce and destabilized the region.

3. The HIV ban that they used as an example in the article that YOU linked to. Did you even read it?

4. You are correct, it probably isn't going to happen, but that is irrelevant.

1) Right, then you are admitting that your only purpose in supporting such a travel ban is a racist attitude having nothing to do with the epidemic. Glad we got that straightened out.

2) And if you institute a travel ban, the disruption and destabilization will be orders of magnitude worse.

3) Yes

4) Right, then you are going to stop this nonsense, right?

1. No, but with your limited mental capacity and your left wing but blinders on, I'm sure that that was all you could get from that.

2. Complete bull shit. How much of those nations economy depends on their people leaving the country? You're a moron.

3. Then why the fuck did you ask me: "what HIV travel ban?"

4. Do you know what "irrelevant" means dumbass?

If you want to know how travel bans affect economies, all you need do is analyze the economy of North Korea.

Who cares how it affects their economies? How Ebola affects ours is more imortant.

Lefties with a little more brainpower than that moron, try to say that if their economy collapses, it will make it more difficult to stop the spread in that country. They don't really explain how that is supposed to happen, but lefties don't ask a whole lot of questions from their leaders. Supposedly then if there is economic chaos somehow the virus comes here. I have no idea how, it's just what the left says.

Yes, lots of questions.

Well, we all know that the government is going to try to make it so that people don't panic, so you really can't believe them. They are always going to minimize such things. I don't know what makes people believe them, trust them, and think that we are immune to a deadly virus. All I can think is that they must be very stupid people, and I'm surprised they are still alive.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'd rather not give it a change to test NY City rats as a host

Is that understandable?

Level IV protocols are two-fold: to keep the medical professionals safe AND TO KEEP THE VIRUS FROM VECTORING OUT INTO IMMEDIATE AREA

Was that too hard to understand?

It's not hard to understand, it's just not a real concern. They have rodents in Africa, but it is not carried by them. You think rats are going to get into the hospital's bio-containment suites? Highly doubtful.

Honestly you're a fucking dope. There's just no nice way to say it

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Honestly, I know more about viruses and infectious diseases than you or anyone else on this board. Out of respect for a fellow conservative I'll do you the favor of not returning the insult.

I'm at a loss to deal with the "Ebola -- no biggie" attitude from you, Friden and Obama. It's insane. Obama and Frieden are bioterrorists looking to wipe out large portions of the US population.

The NY Doctor is POSITIVE for Ebola!

He was roaming the biggest city in the USA carrying a Level IV pathogen. It's shocking, staggering. CDC should have isolated him in Africa and never allowed him on a plane.I don't much respect either your knowledge or Frieden's knowledge, or anybody who says it's safe to fly when infected with a Slate Cleaning virus.

Sorry for the insult, but I'd go at this a whole different way and not take a chance on letting Ebola find an American host.

Infuckingsanity

Betcha no one gets infected due to him. Unless it's another lazy and careless nurse who is taking care of him.

So he was a lazy, careless doctor

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[orogenicman]

NOT IN NEW YORK FUCKING CITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not? Seriously?

I'd rather not give it a change to test NY City rats as a host

Is that understandable?

Level IV protocols are two-fold: to keep the medical professionals safe AND TO KEEP THE VIRUS FROM VECTORING OUT INTO IMMEDIATE AREA

Was that too hard to understand?

It's not hard to understand, it's just not a real concern. They have rodents in Africa, but it is not carried by them. You think rats are going to get into the hospital's bio-containment suites? Highly doubtful.

Honestly you're a fucking dope. There's just no nice way to say it

Sent from smartphone using my wits and Taptalk

Honestly, I know more about viruses and infectious diseases than you or anyone else on this board. Out of respect for a fellow conservative I'll do you the favor of not returning the insult.

When someone posts such claims anonymously on such a forum as this, it usually means one of two things:

1) I'm having a conversation with a kid, and/or

2) The claimant is a loner who has self confidence issues.

 

[orogenicman]

1) Right, then you are admitting that your only purpose in supporting such a travel ban is a racist attitude having nothing to do with the epidemic. Glad we got that straightened out.

2) And if you institute a travel ban, the disruption and destabilization will be orders of magnitude worse.

3) Yes

4) Right, then you are going to stop this nonsense, right?

1. No, but with your limited mental capacity and your left wing but blinders on, I'm sure that that was all you could get from that.

2. Complete bull shit. How much of those nations economy depends on their people leaving the country? You're a moron.

3. Then why the fuck did you ask me: "what HIV travel ban?"

4. Do you know what "irrelevant" means dumbass?

If you want to know how travel bans affect economies, all you need do is analyze the economy of North Korea.

You are one dumb assed lefty.

Since I am not the one proposing we become another North Korea, try again. Or not. Either way, I don't give a shite.

There's a big difference between restricting visas to the citizens of Ebola nations and becoming North Korea.

Really? What difference would that be?

 

[orogenicman]

1) Name one instance in modern times (or at any other time, for that matter) when a travel ban led to the eradication of a disease vector.

2) It does worse than that. It disrupts commerce and destabilizes entire regions affected by the ban.

1 (3) Erm, what ban on HIV, where?

2 (4) Not going to happen.

1. No one is saying that a travel ban will eradicate the disease vector.

2. The disease itself has already disrupted commerce and destabilized the region.

3. The HIV ban that they used as an example in the article that YOU linked to. Did you even read it?

4. You are correct, it probably isn't going to happen, but that is irrelevant.

1) Right, then you are admitting that your only purpose in supporting such a travel ban is a racist attitude having nothing to do with the epidemic. Glad we got that straightened out.

2) And if you institute a travel ban, the disruption and destabilization will be orders of magnitude worse.

3) Yes

4) Right, then you are going to stop this nonsense, right?

1. No, but with your limited mental capacity and your left wing but blinders on, I'm sure that that was all you could get from that.

2. Complete bull shit. How much of those nations economy depends on their people leaving the country? You're a moron.

3. Then why the fuck did you ask me: "what HIV travel ban?"

4. Do you know what "irrelevant" means dumbass?

If you want to know how travel bans affect economies, all you need do is analyze the economy of North Korea.

Who cares how it affects their economies? How Ebola affects ours is more imortant.

Gee, "compassionate conservatism" rears its ugly head yet again. Congratulations.

 

[orogenicman]

If you want to prevent deadly diseases from arriving here, there is only one solution: Stop it at the source. This minor issue here has taken attention from the real issue - fighting the disease where it can actually do good, in Africa.

I think you know that's a pipe dream. The next best thing is to restrict travel. Besides, I'm quite sure that a lot of our money already goes to Africa for various causes, not to mention the money people donate through various charities. I don't things in Africa could ever be like they are here in America not matter how much money we throw at them.

It isn't a pipe dream at all. Small pox was eradicated. The measles is all but a thing of the past. Vaccines are in the pipeline for Ebola. Fighting this disease at the source is the ONLY answer. But let's look at this idea of restricting travel. To who does it apply? France had a case. Let's stop all travel from France. Germany had a case. Shut them down. UK? Not yet. Stay tuned. Nigeria had it, but they've stopped it in its tracks. Never the less, they present a risk in your view, so they can't come either. That, of course, fucks up Chevron's American employees who work there and travel back and forth all the time (as well as many others). The simple fact is that it will never work, will never prevent someone with the disease from getting through, will not prevent someone with the disease from traveling to a country without such restriction and then traveling on to the U.S.: But it WILL kill business for Africans, for Americans, and for many others.

I could be wrong, but I believe a VISA has to be issued by the US Embassy to anyone that wants to travel to the US. Stop issuing them except for an emergency. American Chevron employees are relatively safe since they most certainly did not have anything to do with a West African that was dead or dying from Ebola.

American Chevron employees travel all over west Africa. So tell me again how you know they are safe.

I don't, but they very easily could be put in quarantine for 21 days upon return to the US.

Upon return? I was under the impression that the issue was a travel ban, not a quarantine. Are you moving the goalpost?

 

[orogenicman]

1) Right, then you are admitting that your only purpose in supporting such a travel ban is a racist attitude having nothing to do with the epidemic. Glad we got that straightened out.

2) And if you institute a travel ban, the disruption and destabilization will be orders of magnitude worse.

3) Yes

4) Right, then you are going to stop this nonsense, right?

1. No, but with your limited mental capacity and your left wing but blinders on, I'm sure that that was all you could get from that.

2. Complete bull shit. How much of those nations economy depends on their people leaving the country? You're a moron.

3. Then why the fuck did you ask me: "what HIV travel ban?"

4. Do you know what "irrelevant" means dumbass?

If you want to know how travel bans affect economies, all you need do is analyze the economy of North Korea.

Who cares how it affects their economies? How Ebola affects ours is more imortant.

Lefties with a little more brainpower than that moron, try to say that if their economy collapses, it will make it more difficult to stop the spread in that country. They don't really explain how that is supposed to happen, but lefties don't ask a whole lot of questions from their leaders. Supposedly then if there is economic chaos somehow the virus comes here. I have no idea how, it's just what the left says.

Yes, lots of questions.

Well, we all know that the government is going to try to make it so that people don't panic, so you really can't believe them. They are always going to minimize such things. I don't know what makes people believe them, trust them, and think that we are immune to a deadly virus. All I can think is that they must be very stupid people, and I'm surprised they are still alive.

Most people aren't as utterly and completely paranoid as you radical right wing nuts. Take a chill pill.

 

[PredFan]

It's not hard to understand, it's just not a real concern. They have rodents in Africa, but it is not carried by them. You think rats are going to get into the hospital's bio-containment suites? Highly doubtful.

Honestly you're a fucking dope. There's just no nice way to say it

Sent from smartphone using my wits and Taptalk

Honestly, I know more about viruses and infectious diseases than you or anyone else on this board. Out of respect for a fellow conservative I'll do you the favor of not returning the insult.

I'm at a loss to deal with the "Ebola -- no biggie" attitude from you, Friden and Obama. It's insane. Obama and Frieden are bioterrorists looking to wipe out large portions of the US population.

The NY Doctor is POSITIVE for Ebola!

He was roaming the biggest city in the USA carrying a Level IV pathogen. It's shocking, staggering. CDC should have isolated him in Africa and never allowed him on a plane.I don't much respect either your knowledge or Frieden's knowledge, or anybody who says it's safe to fly when infected with a Slate Cleaning virus.

Sorry for the insult, but I'd go at this a whole different way and not take a chance on letting Ebola find an American host.

Infuckingsanity

Betcha no one gets infected due to him. Unless it's another lazy and careless nurse who is taking care of him.

So he was a lazy, careless doctor

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I guarantee you that those two nurses in Dallas, and the doctor in NY screwed up their isolation protocol. Lots and lots of other people took care of that patient in Dallas, and lots if doctors took care of patients in Africa. They didn't get infected because they follows protocol. I see it happen every single day.

 

[PredFan]

If you want to prevent deadly diseases from arriving here, there is only one solution: Stop it at the source. This minor issue here has taken attention from the real issue - fighting the disease where it can actually do good, in Africa.

I think you know that's a pipe dream. The next best thing is to restrict travel. Besides, I'm quite sure that a lot of our money already goes to Africa for various causes, not to mention the money people donate through various charities. I don't things in Africa could ever be like they are here in America not matter how much money we throw at them.

It isn't a pipe dream at all. Small pox was eradicated. The measles is all but a thing of the past. Vaccines are in the pipeline for Ebola. Fighting this disease at the source is the ONLY answer. But let's look at this idea of restricting travel. To who does it apply? France had a case. Let's stop all travel from France. Germany had a case. Shut them down. UK? Not yet. Stay tuned. Nigeria had it, but they've stopped it in its tracks. Never the less, they present a risk in your view, so they can't come either. That, of course, fucks up Chevron's American employees who work there and travel back and forth all the time (as well as many others). The simple fact is that it will never work, will never prevent someone with the disease from getting through, will not prevent someone with the disease from traveling to a country without such restriction and then traveling on to the U.S.: But it WILL kill business for Africans, for Americans, and for many others.

I could be wrong, but I believe a VISA has to be issued by the US Embassy to anyone that wants to travel to the US. Stop issuing them except for an emergency. American Chevron employees are relatively safe since they most certainly did not have anything to do with a West African that was dead or dying from Ebola.

American Chevron employees travel all over west Africa. So tell me again how you know they are safe.

I don't, but they very easily could be put in quarantine for 21 days upon return to the US.

Not really necessary, people get sick from Ebola well before they are contagious.

 

[PredFan]

1) Right, then you are admitting that your only purpose in supporting such a travel ban is a racist attitude having nothing to do with the epidemic. Glad we got that straightened out.

2) And if you institute a travel ban, the disruption and destabilization will be orders of magnitude worse.

3) Yes

4) Right, then you are going to stop this nonsense, right?

1. No, but with your limited mental capacity and your left wing but blinders on, I'm sure that that was all you could get from that.

2. Complete bull shit. How much of those nations economy depends on their people leaving the country? You're a moron.

3. Then why the fuck did you ask me: "what HIV travel ban?"

4. Do you know what "irrelevant" means dumbass?

If you want to know how travel bans affect economies, all you need do is analyze the economy of North Korea.

Who cares how it affects their economies? How Ebola affects ours is more imortant.

Lefties with a little more brainpower than that moron, try to say that if their economy collapses, it will make it more difficult to stop the spread in that country. They don't really explain how that is supposed to happen, but lefties don't ask a whole lot of questions from their leaders. Supposedly then if there is economic chaos somehow the virus comes here. I have no idea how, it's just what the left says.

Yes, lots of questions.

Well, we all know that the government is going to try to make it so that people don't panic, so you really can't believe them. They are always going to minimize such things. I don't know what makes people believe them, trust them, and think that we are immune to a deadly virus. All I can think is that they must be very stupid people, and I'm surprised they are still alive.

Today, some retard politician actually said this:

"We can't stop travel to the US from these affected countries because it will cause those people to travel to this country."

That is not your average stupid, that is US Government grade stupid.

 

[TooTall]

I think you know that's a pipe dream. The next best thing is to restrict travel. Besides, I'm quite sure that a lot of our money already goes to Africa for various causes, not to mention the money people donate through various charities. I don't things in Africa could ever be like they are here in America not matter how much money we throw at them.

It isn't a pipe dream at all. Small pox was eradicated. The measles is all but a thing of the past. Vaccines are in the pipeline for Ebola. Fighting this disease at the source is the ONLY answer. But let's look at this idea of restricting travel. To who does it apply? France had a case. Let's stop all travel from France. Germany had a case. Shut them down. UK? Not yet. Stay tuned. Nigeria had it, but they've stopped it in its tracks. Never the less, they present a risk in your view, so they can't come either. That, of course, fucks up Chevron's American employees who work there and travel back and forth all the time (as well as many others). The simple fact is that it will never work, will never prevent someone with the disease from getting through, will not prevent someone with the disease from traveling to a country without such restriction and then traveling on to the U.S.: But it WILL kill business for Africans, for Americans, and for many others.

I could be wrong, but I believe a VISA has to be issued by the US Embassy to anyone that wants to travel to the US. Stop issuing them except for an emergency. American Chevron employees are relatively safe since they most certainly did not have anything to do with a West African that was dead or dying from Ebola.

American Chevron employees travel all over west Africa. So tell me again how you know they are safe.

I don't, but they very easily could be put in quarantine for 21 days upon return to the US.

Upon return? I was under the impression that the issue was a travel ban, not a quarantine. Are you moving the goalpost?

Are you really that mentally challenged? An American going to West Africa does not need a VISA to come back to the US. It should be apparent to anyone with an IQ above 50 that I was talking about a travel ban on anyone who is not a US citizen and a quarantine on any returning US citizen.

 

[TooTall]

I think you know that's a pipe dream. The next best thing is to restrict travel. Besides, I'm quite sure that a lot of our money already goes to Africa for various causes, not to mention the money people donate through various charities. I don't things in Africa could ever be like they are here in America not matter how much money we throw at them.

It isn't a pipe dream at all. Small pox was eradicated. The measles is all but a thing of the past. Vaccines are in the pipeline for Ebola. Fighting this disease at the source is the ONLY answer. But let's look at this idea of restricting travel. To who does it apply? France had a case. Let's stop all travel from France. Germany had a case. Shut them down. UK? Not yet. Stay tuned. Nigeria had it, but they've stopped it in its tracks. Never the less, they present a risk in your view, so they can't come either. That, of course, fucks up Chevron's American employees who work there and travel back and forth all the time (as well as many others). The simple fact is that it will never work, will never prevent someone with the disease from getting through, will not prevent someone with the disease from traveling to a country without such restriction and then traveling on to the U.S.: But it WILL kill business for Africans, for Americans, and for many others.

I could be wrong, but I believe a VISA has to be issued by the US Embassy to anyone that wants to travel to the US. Stop issuing them except for an emergency. American Chevron employees are relatively safe since they most certainly did not have anything to do with a West African that was dead or dying from Ebola.

American Chevron employees travel all over west Africa. So tell me again how you know they are safe.

I don't, but they very easily could be put in quarantine for 21 days upon return to the US.

Not really necessary, people get sick from Ebola well before they are contagious.

I had no idea that you were an Ebola expert. How long after they get sick are they contagious?

 

[PredFan]

It isn't a pipe dream at all. Small pox was eradicated. The measles is all but a thing of the past. Vaccines are in the pipeline for Ebola. Fighting this disease at the source is the ONLY answer. But let's look at this idea of restricting travel. To who does it apply? France had a case. Let's stop all travel from France. Germany had a case. Shut them down. UK? Not yet. Stay tuned. Nigeria had it, but they've stopped it in its tracks. Never the less, they present a risk in your view, so they can't come either. That, of course, fucks up Chevron's American employees who work there and travel back and forth all the time (as well as many others). The simple fact is that it will never work, will never prevent someone with the disease from getting through, will not prevent someone with the disease from traveling to a country without such restriction and then traveling on to the U.S.: But it WILL kill business for Africans, for Americans, and for many others.

I could be wrong, but I believe a VISA has to be issued by the US Embassy to anyone that wants to travel to the US. Stop issuing them except for an emergency. American Chevron employees are relatively safe since they most certainly did not have anything to do with a West African that was dead or dying from Ebola.

American Chevron employees travel all over west Africa. So tell me again how you know they are safe.

I don't, but they very easily could be put in quarantine for 21 days upon return to the US.

Not really necessary, people get sick from Ebola well before they are contagious.

I had no idea that you were an Ebola expert. How long after they get sick are they contagious?

Yeah well there's quite a lot you have no idea about, but to answer your question: It depends. What kind if contact are you talking about? If you want to touch them with your bare hands then it's probably a couple of days after, if you want to kiss them with tongue, probably 24 hours or so, if you want to drink their blood, probably within a few hours.

 

[TooTall]

I could be wrong, but I believe a VISA has to be issued by the US Embassy to anyone that wants to travel to the US. Stop issuing them except for an emergency. American Chevron employees are relatively safe since they most certainly did not have anything to do with a West African that was dead or dying from Ebola.

American Chevron employees travel all over west Africa. So tell me again how you know they are safe.

I don't, but they very easily could be put in quarantine for 21 days upon return to the US.

Not really necessary, people get sick from Ebola well before they are contagious.

I had no idea that you were an Ebola expert. How long after they get sick are they contagious?

Yeah well there's quite a lot you have no idea about, but to answer your question: It depends. What kind if contact are you talking about? If you want to touch them with your bare hands then it's probably a couple of days after, if you want to kiss them with tongue, probably 24 hours or so, if you want to drink their blood, probably within a few hours.

That is good to know. There are medical experts that would disagree with you. Now, which one of these things did the two nurses in Dallas do? How about the three Doctors and the NBC cameraman that came back from West Africa with Ebola?

 

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American Chevron employees travel all over west Africa. So tell me again how you know they are safe.

I don't, but they very easily could be put in quarantine for 21 days upon return to the US.

Not really necessary, people get sick from Ebola well before they are contagious.

I had no idea that you were an Ebola expert. How long after they get sick are they contagious?

Yeah well there's quite a lot you have no idea about, but to answer your question: It depends. What kind if contact are you talking about? If you want to touch them with your bare hands then it's probably a couple of days after, if you want to kiss them with tongue, probably 24 hours or so, if you want to drink their blood, probably within a few hours.

That is good to know. There are medical experts that would disagree with you. Now, which one of these things did the two nurses in Dallas do? How about the three Doctors and the NBC cameraman that came back from West Africa with Ebola?

Actually no medical expert would disagree, they would agree that those are good estimates. The nurses in Dallas didn't do any of those things, neither did the doctors or the camera man, but that wasn't what you asked. Who knows for sure what the cameraman did but the Doctors and Nurses took care of patients at the time they are most infectious, at the end stages of the disease when their bodies are teeming with the virus. Again, that wasn't what you asked.