Why the Democrats won't compromise

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The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".
 
Comrades

with Papa Obama's new lows in the polls
it may be time to bring out the children again to save us

Rejoice
The one is with us

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The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.
 
The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

I realized this 12 years ago...

Demofucks need the "us vs them" bullshit to survive as a political party.

They need enemies because the democrat party relies on opposition.

Then you got the assclown communists that invaded the democratic party. Thats a thesis or dissertation all in itself.
 
Harry Reid and Diane Feinstein were for a balanced budget amendment in 1997.
Now that Republicans have brought it up, they are against it.
Why? Because the credit would go the the Republicans and not the Democrats.
It's disgusting that only one Dem, Sen. Reid, would hold this up, just because of petty politics of who or who would not get the credit for it.
He knows that there are 23 Dem's who would vote for it and that it would defiantly pass the senate with those extra votes.
He is the one playing politics and it is utterly disgusting.
 
The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

Completely ignoring the fact that the raising of the debt ceiling has never been tied to budget deals in the 102 times it has been raised since 1917. 18 times by the Tea Bagger messiah, Reagan. That we are negotiating with these terrorists in the first place is in itself one hell of a compromise.

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The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

Completely ignoring the fact that the raising of the debt ceiling has never been tied to budget deals in the 102 times it has been raised since 1917. 18 times by the Tea Bagger messiah, Reagan. That we are negotiating with these terrorists in the first place is in itself one hell of a compromise.

omb-graph-on-debt-ceiling-use.jpg


Terrorists? Did they kill someone? Your credibility is blown with irrational statements such as these.
 
The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.
Bullshit. If they wanted to they had two years of total control and all they did was historical spending. YOU are full of S*&^!
 
The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

Completely ignoring the fact that the raising of the debt ceiling has never been tied to budget deals in the 102 times it has been raised since 1917. 18 times by the Tea Bagger messiah, Reagan. That we are negotiating with these terrorists in the first place is in itself one hell of a compromise.

omb-graph-on-debt-ceiling-use.jpg


Terrorists? Did they kill someone? Your credibility is blown with irrational statements such as these.

You're right...terrorist is probably too strong a word. Simple insane hostage takers will do.
 
Completely ignoring the fact that the raising of the debt ceiling has never been tied to budget deals in the 102 times it has been raised since 1917. 18 times by the Tea Bagger messiah, Reagan. That we are negotiating with these terrorists in the first place is in itself one hell of a compromise.

omb-graph-on-debt-ceiling-use.jpg


Terrorists? Did they kill someone? Your credibility is blown with irrational statements such as these.

You're right...terrorist is probably too strong a word. Simple insane hostage takers will do.

When was the last time we had this level of debt?
 
The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

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Bullshit. If they wanted to they had two years of total control and all they did was historical spending. YOU are full of S*&^!

Spending that was necessary to keep our country from falling into a Depression. You can ask most top economists and they'll say the same thing.

Naturally President Obama would have preferred to walk into a surplus like his predecessor did, but President Obama was the guy we hired to clean up the incredible mess left by Bush II.

Cleanup is expensive. Just ask BP...
 
Terrorists? Did they kill someone? Your credibility is blown with irrational statements such as these.

You're right...terrorist is probably too strong a word. Simple insane hostage takers will do.

When was the last time we had this level of debt?

Nobody is saying that our debt isn't a problem...it's just not THE problem at the moment. Yes, we should be having discussions about curbing spending AND increasing revenues...but those should be discussions to have on their own merits, not tied to the Full Faith and Credit of the United States.

We are facing a DOWNGRADE because of these ridiculous shenanigans. Give the President a clean debt ceiling raise to sign and then have a thoughtful and intelligent conversation about how to tackle our debt and deficit problems.

What was it Representative Kucinich said?...Something along the lines of don't burn down the house while having a discussion about how high the roof should be.
 
Bullshit. If they wanted to they had two years of total control and all they did was historical spending. YOU are full of S*&^!

Spending that was necessary to keep our country from falling into a Depression. You can ask most top economists and they'll say the same thing.

Naturally President Obama would have preferred to walk into a surplus like his predecessor did, but President Obama was the guy we hired to clean up the incredible mess left by Bush II.

Cleanup is expensive. Just ask BP...

Yeah, how's that working out? :lol:

Total bullshit, Clinton left Bush $5,800,000,000,000 of debt.

To summarize - you're a fucking idiot.
 
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Terrorists? Did they kill someone? Your credibility is blown with irrational statements such as these.

You're right...terrorist is probably too strong a word. Simple insane hostage takers will do.

When was the last time we had this level of debt?

See Politifact on Bush Debt


Go back at his rate he will more than double the national debt
by adding 12 trillion in 8 years, if allowed



But the facts remain

- he is adding to the debt at a faster rate
Indeed, 3 trillion/2 year= 1.5 trillion per year
At this rate, 6 trillion in 4 years; 12 trillion in 8 years
As such, at this rate, if allowed, he will match the amount Bush added to the debt in 3 years.
 
Bullshit. If they wanted to they had two years of total control and all they did was historical spending. YOU are full of S*&^!

Spending that was necessary to keep our country from falling into a Depression. You can ask most top economists and they'll say the same thing.

Naturally President Obama would have preferred to walk into a surplus like his predecessor did, but President Obama was the guy we hired to clean up the incredible mess left by Bush II.

Cleanup is expensive. Just ask BP...

Going with that logic, our debt will be somewhere around 16 trillion when election time comes around. Assuming an R wins, do you support that R to up the ceiling another 10 T to clean up O's mess? I don't.
 

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