I'm not sure I'm hung up. Logical thinking is certainly an improvement over some of what I hear around here. I agree with you 100%. I just have a certain wariness about philosophical cleverness. When I was in college, I only took one philosophy course, but I took my mandatory two semesters of Humanities from a professor in the philosophy department (his take on Wuthering Heights was priceless...lol). He kept insisting that if I believed good and evil were relativist concepts, that I had to believe that Hitler's final solution was okay. When we get into arguments over the nature of being, and the existence of good--or God, no one can actually prove it, G.T. I believe there are different schools of thought on this, and they would be quite put out if you told them they were just being opinionated.