'Why Study Philosophy'

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    First of all, let me admit that my knowledge of pragmatism is abysmally incomplete. But that's not going to stop me from making what may be an ignorant post, nothing unusual there:

    " Rorty thought that the things we believe to be true aren’t actually connected to reality: There is the stuff we say, and then there is the actual world, and never the twain shall meet. We agree on certain conventions in order to function, but we’ll never arrive at anything like truth. "


    No doubt I am misunderstand this, but the things we believe to be true may or may not be connected to reality. To say we'll never arrive anything like the truth is IMHO selling ourselves too short; who's to say mankind will not stumble on the truth one way or another, and I'm not sure that in some subjects like religion, one person's truth is not another's. It could be that the concept of one real truth is all there is for everybody is a gross assumption. And I'm not even sure that what was real truth yesterday will be the real truth tomorrow, I wouldn't say we know everything there is to know about reality just yet. But to assert that we'll never get there is a little too pessimistic for me, it could take a long time, but maybe we'll eventually get there.
     
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    There is a final state of fact for everything and once it is discovered it will be known that it was always that way and will always be that way. This is called reality or objective truth. The confusion on objective truth or reality comes from the perception of reality which is subjective, but that does not mean it is not possible to be objective and see reality or objective truth. All one must do is have no preference for an outcome and the consequences to one's self.
     
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    Reading philosophy is an active event, much like reading a book on Mathematics or legal judgments. The authors, translators and editors of works of the great philosophers are not often the best writers, for their efforts to cover all bases leads to many parenthetic paragraphs. Most works require intense concentration and note taking
     
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    "The land is not my own yet here I abide, casting my drooping Eye upon the world." AO

    Greetings fellow thinkers and assorted whiners, hope all are well. A few pieces to enlighten, cultivate, aggravate, or whatever, the mind.

    "Lately, academia has grown more sensitive to how its culture flattens and normalises those who populate its ranks. Impostor syndrome is a way of explaining how non-standard identities can provoke alienation. Class is one such structure of exclusion, alongside race, gender, sexual identity and disability. But what are the epistemic costs of ‘fitting’? If we look only at alienation, we ignore the ways in which that subtly enforced sameness diminishes understanding." Amy Olberding How useful is 'impostor syndrome' in academia? | Aeon Essays

    Journeyman Philosopher: Who and what do you think you are?
    Journeyman Philosopher: Free will revisited

    Free speech and the big I. The Philosopher's Beard: Can Free Speech Survive the Internet?

    'I Was a Bank Robber Until I Read Kant - The one thing that criminals and philosophers share is a sense of being an outsider
    I Was a Bank Robber Until I Read Kant

    The History Of Philosophy

    "To compare life to a road can indeed be fruitful in many ways, but we must consider how life is unlike a road. In a physical sense a road is an external actuality, no matter whether anyone is walking on it or not, no matter how the individual travels on it - the road is the road. But in the spiritual sense, the road comes into existence only when we walk on it. That is, the road is how it is walked." Soren Kierkegaard, 'Provocations'


    "A philosopher is a blind man, in a dark cellar, at midnight, looking for a black cat that isn't there. He is distinguished from a theologian in that the theologian finds the cat." anon
     
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    The Allegory of the Cave does it for me.
     
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    Shadow over substance, I'd want to know more?
     
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    Greetings thoughtful USMB readers. A few links for the thoughtful.

    Interesting magazine check out the edition on Fake News, excellent. New Philosopher | Magazine

    "Human beings do not live in the objective world alone ... but are very much at the mercy of the particular language which has become the medium of expression for their society. It is quite an illusion to imagine that one adjusts to reality essentially without the use of language and that language is merely an incidental means of solving specific problems of communication or reflection. The fact of the matter is that the 'real world' is to a large extent unconsciously built upon the language habits of the group. No two languages are ever sufficiently similar to be considered as representing the same social reality. The worlds in which different societies live are distinct worlds, not merely the same world with different labels attached ... We see and hear and otherwise experience very largely as we do because the language habits of our community predispose certain choices of interpretation." Edward Sapir

    Lots of Philosopher interviews: Whatever it is, we're against it. -

    "Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value." Meaningness

    "The moment we no longer have a free press, anything can happen. What makes it possible for a totalitarian or any other dictatorship to rule is that people are not informed; how can you have an opinion if you are not informed? If everybody always lies to you, the consequence is not that you believe the lies, but rather that nobody believes anything any longer. This is because lies, by their very nature, have to be changed, and a lying government has constantly to rewrite its own history. On the receiving end you get not only one lie—a lie which you could go on for the rest of your days—but you get a great number of lies, depending on how the political wind blows. And a people that no longer can believe anything cannot make up its mind. It is deprived not only of its capacity to act but also of its capacity to think and to judge. And with such a people you can then do what you please." Hannah Arendt Hannah Arendt: From an Interview
     
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    From midcan5's interesting and thought provoking link:

    For Frankfurt, a bullshitter “is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false… He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose”. These words, first published in 2005, capture something central to the phenomenon that has come to be called fake news: the belief that emotive impact is not only the supreme test of a story, but the only metric that matters.

    ‘Alternative facts’ can always be mustered if you equate truth with the most aggressive opinion in the room. The world according to the bullshitter is whatever he wishes it to be. ‘Fake news’ is whatever people he disagrees with are saying. There’s a purity to this that is almost Platonic.

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    or the curious, read the link and pay attention to the term "bullshitter" which aptly describes Donald Trump and his claim about cheering on 9-11 in NJ.
     
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    All education is beneficial. Education in general demystifies almost everything so people aren't afraid of things anymore. You see much clearer when you know how things actually work. The less educated one is the easier for people to fool you. A liberal arts degree produces a rounder human being and much better citizen.
     
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