Why Socialism According To Einstein

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    * Modern anthropology has taught us, through comparative investigation of so-called primitive cultures, that the social behavior of human beings may differ greatly, depending upon prevailing cultural patterns and the types of organisation which predominate in society. It is on this that those who are striving to improve the lot of man may ground their hopes: human beings are not condemned, because of their biological constitution, to annihilate each other or to be at the mercy of a cruel, self-inflicted fate.

    * The owner of the means of production is in a position to purchase the labor power of the worker. By using the means of production, the worker produces new goods which become the property of the capitalist. The essential point about this process is the relation between what the worker produces and what he is paid, both measured in terms of real value. In so far as the labor contract is free what the worker receives is determined not by the real value of the goods he produces, but by his minimum needs and by the capitalists' requirements for labor power in relation to the number of workers competing for jobs. It is important to understand that even in theory the payment of the worker is not determined by the value of his product.

    * I have now reached the point where I may indicate briefly what to me constitutes the essence of the crisis of our time. It concerns the relationship of the individual to society. The individual has become more conscious than ever of his dependence upon society. But he does not experience this dependence as a positive asset, as an organic tie, as a protective force, but rather as a threat to his natural rights, or even to his economic existence. Moreover, his position in society is such that the egotistical drives of his make-up are constantly being accentuated, while his social drives, which are by nature weaker, progressively deteriorate. All human beings, whatever their position in society, are suffering from this process of deterioration. Unknowingly prisoners of their own egotism, they feel insecure, lonely, and deprived of the naive, simple, and unsophisticated enjoyment of life. Man can find meaning in life, short and perilous as it is, only through devoting himself to society.

    * The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labor — not by force, but on the whole in faithful compliance with legally established rules.

    * I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

    * Nevertheless, it is necessary to remember that a planned economy is not yet socialism. A planned economy as such may be accompanied by the complete enslavement of the individual. The achievement of socialism requires the solution of some extremely difficult socio-political problems: how is it possible, in view of the far-reaching centralisation of political and economic power, to prevent bureaucracy from becoming all-powerful and overweening? How can the rights of the individual be protected and therewith a democratic counterweight to the power of bureaucracy be assured?

    * Clarity about the aims and problems of socialism is of greatest significance in our age of transition. Since, under present circumstances, free and unhindered discussion of these problems has come under a powerful taboo, I consider the foundation of this magazine to be an important public service.

    Albert Einstein - Wikiquote
     
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    Musta been his Jewish upbringing.
     
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    Al Einstein was a physicst. Should we accept his opinion of socialism because he made a bomb that incinerated two Japanese cities and ushered in the concept of MAD?
     
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    Looks like when it came to politics Einstein was no Einstein.
     
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    capitalism > socialism

    That's nice and all, that Einstein has an opinion. But why do I care? He's a scientist. Should we have asked Keynes or Marshall what they thought about quantum mechanics?
     
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    Science supersedes everything, my opinion of course.
     
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    Einstein isn't talking about science.
     
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    Well this is what the "science" says (fast forward to 53 min and 20 secs):

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL3qdeKOxVc]Social Pathology Full | The Zeitgeist Movement | NYC 2010 ZDAY - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Yeah, kinda like Rush talking about volcanos, Dr. laura talking about psychology, O'Rielly talking about combat, Bush landing on an aircraft carrier, Boner talking about the economy, Palin talking about Russia, etc. We get it.

    The question is, from observable phenomena, is his opinion correct, or can you denounce it? That is where the ball is at. Want to serve??:lol:
     
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    Appeal to authority fallacy:

    "For example, being an expert physicist does not automatically make a person an expert on morality or politics."

    Fallacy: Appeal to Authority
     

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