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what was incoherent......the reasons romney lost?
religious problems....
flip flop problems
insulting 47 % of america....
lying in his jeep commerical about the jeeps going to china after being bailed out....
how much slower can i type for you?
what was incoherent......the reasons romney lost?
religious problems....
flip flop problems
insulting 47 % of america....
lying in his jeep commerical about the jeeps going to china after being bailed out....
how much slower can i type for you?
For Muddy, you need to type real loud. He is slow on the uptake. And can't hear well.
Please shout.
The lying Jeep ad really hurt him in Ohio in those last days. Portman sabotaged him...
this could have been a decent thread discussing the real issues that caused romney to lose....
47 %, jeep remarks....but you would rather just cast stones and rant and rave about how bad the democrats are....did it ever occur to you .....that romney reall fucked up...with his own comments....not being able to control his underlyings.....by bringing back the 'bomber boys' the list just goes on and on but you continue to blame the democrats for winning.....instead of trying to really figure out why the non diverse group of white men have failed.....look at the religion clamp..excluding everyone who is their concept of "christian".....you do realize one of the most religious groups in america....blacks....did not vote for the christian candidate....
couple that with the latino vote.....even dying his skin didnt fool them....
and lets now leave out his lose in ohio....do you think it could have been that lying jeep commerical?
why not discuss what really happened down at the reality ranch?
ch
The lying Jeep ad really hurt him in Ohio in those last days. Portman sabotaged him...
Why a candidate lost should be examined, but not necessarily with the opposition. Same with why another won. However, since it started I'll throw in my two cents:
Romney was defined by the Democrats for too long, with 0 response.
He never explained that 47% remark in an intelligible way, "What I meant, what was understood by those present was that for states already considered 'safe' for President Obama, there is 47% of the population. No matter what I do or say in person, through ads, I'm not going to win NY, NY, MA, RI, or IL."
As Chris Matthew's so eloquently put it, 'I'm really happy about that storm, saved Obama the election. Oh, only in a political sense.'
The GOP didn't get out the vote. Granted some of those folks just wouldn't vote Mormon, yet haven't seen anyone complaining about that from the progressive side of things.
Romney's 'promise' to veto any Dream Act. Since there wasn't one passed and the only action taken was by EO, there wasn't a reason for the promise.
He never explained that 47% remark in an intelligible way, "What I meant, what was understood by those present was that for states already considered 'safe' for President Obama, there is 47% of the population. No matter what I do or say in person, through ads, I'm not going to win NY, NY, MA, RI, or IL."
As Chris Matthew's so eloquently put it, 'I'm really happy about that storm, saved Obama the election. Oh, only in a political sense.'
The GOP didn't get out the vote. Granted some of those folks just wouldn't vote Mormon, yet haven't seen anyone complaining about that from the progressive side of things.
Romney's 'promise' to veto any Dream Act. Since there wasn't one passed and the only action taken was by EO, there wasn't a reason for the promise.
The lying Jeep ad really hurt him in Ohio in those last days. Portman sabotaged him...
I never saw it. I've only heard of it.
Jeep is planning on moving some production to China.
I don't know if it will happen, but if the union allows it, it will happen.
I don't like you... But on this I agree with you.this could have been a decent thread discussing the real issues that caused romney to lose....
47 %, jeep remarks....but you would rather just cast stones and rant and rave about how bad the democrats are....did it ever occur to you .....that romney reall fucked up...with his own comments....not being able to control his underlyings.....by bringing back the 'bomber boys' the list just goes on and on but you continue to blame the democrats for winning.....instead of trying to really figure out why the non diverse group of white men have failed.....look at the religion clamp..excluding everyone who is their concept of "christian".....you do realize one of the most religious groups in america....blacks....did not vote for the christian candidate....
couple that with the latino vote.....even dying his skin didnt fool them....
and lets now leave out his lose in ohio....do you think it could have been that lying jeep commerical?
why not discuss what really happened down at the reality ranch?
ch
You're right, Bones. This could have been a real discussion. And there are actual conservatives on the board who are truly grappling with these questions. Muddy just happens not to be a conservative. He's a reactionary... And so Obama-deranged that he isn't rational on the subject. He really should stop pretending his rants are political at all.
The answer is they lost BECAUSE of people like muddy,,,
No one wants their government run by a bunch of bile-spewing, randian theocrats whose hatred for the president is so insane that they'd rather destroy our country from the inside than make rational decisions about how to work with the other 51% of the country who voted for the president.
Let me say that again for the wacko winger "base": the popular vote was about 51%
Karl Rove has said that Sandy is the reason Romney lost. If a hurricane is an act of God ...
God had something to do with it, but climate change has nothing to do with God.
God stopped interfering with our weather after the great flood 6000 years ago. Anyone who's read the Bible and understands it knows that.
I think that forcing the media to be honest and impartial in their coverage would be enough to balance things out. But figure the odds on that.
The lying Jeep ad really hurt him in Ohio in those last days. Portman sabotaged him...
Sorry, I missed that. What did Portman do?
I don't like you... But on this I agree with you.this could have been a decent thread discussing the real issues that caused romney to lose....
47 %, jeep remarks....but you would rather just cast stones and rant and rave about how bad the democrats are....did it ever occur to you .....that romney reall fucked up...with his own comments....not being able to control his underlyings.....by bringing back the 'bomber boys' the list just goes on and on but you continue to blame the democrats for winning.....instead of trying to really figure out why the non diverse group of white men have failed.....look at the religion clamp..excluding everyone who is their concept of "christian".....you do realize one of the most religious groups in america....blacks....did not vote for the christian candidate....
couple that with the latino vote.....even dying his skin didnt fool them....
and lets now leave out his lose in ohio....do you think it could have been that lying jeep commerical?
why not discuss what really happened down at the reality ranch?
ch
You're right, Bones. This could have been a real discussion. And there are actual conservatives on the board who are truly grappling with these questions. Muddy just happens not to be a conservative. He's a reactionary... And so Obama-deranged that he isn't rational on the subject. He really should stop pretending his rants are political at all.
The answer is they lost BECAUSE of people like muddy,,,
No one wants their government run by a bunch of bile-spewing, randian theocrats whose hatred for the president is so insane that they'd rather destroy our country from the inside than make rational decisions about how to work with the other 51% of the country who voted for the president.
Let me say that again for the wacko winger "base": the popular vote was about 51%
Karl Rove has said that Sandy is the reason Romney lost. If a hurricane is an act of God ...
God had something to do with it, but climate change has nothing to do with God.
God stopped interfering with our weather after the great flood 6000 years ago. Anyone who's read the Bible and understands it knows that.
I think that forcing the media to be honest and impartial in their coverage would be enough to balance things out. But figure the odds on that.
Even if you believe that, muddy, G-d may have said HE wouldn't bring another flood, but he sure didn't say that humans don't have the free will to destroy the planet.
And your post above is exactly why the radical right should stay away from scientific decision-making
The lying Jeep ad really hurt him in Ohio in those last days. Portman sabotaged him...
Sorry, I missed that. What did Portman do?
I read or heard something the other day that said Portman pushed for the Jeep ad.
He never explained that 47% remark in an intelligible way, "What I meant, what was understood by those present was that for states already considered 'safe' for President Obama, there is 47% of the population. No matter what I do or say in person, through ads, I'm not going to win NY, NY, MA, RI, or IL."
But that's not what he said. What he said was that half the country doesn't pay taxes, and want "luxaries" from the government like Food, health care and housing. (How dare they!) The interesting thing about that tape was Romney showed us who he really was. A rich guy who was out to make things better for the rich.
And one of those poor people cleaning up their $50,000 dirty dishes taped him in the act. Heh, heh, heh...
As Chris Matthew's so eloquently put it, 'I'm really happy about that storm, saved Obama the election. Oh, only in a political sense.'
And the next day, he came out and apologized for that. But the Storm destroyed Romney's argument that we don't need big bad government, we just need rich people having more Dancing Horsies, and everything will be fine. Even CHris Christie realized a Dancing Horsie wasn't going to do him much good. Yes, big bad government is really in there helping em,,, they won't get any power until Thanksgiving.. Thanks big bad government. If the Alabama crews had been allowed to help they'd have their power NOW.. Enjoy
The GOP didn't get out the vote. Granted some of those folks just wouldn't vote Mormon, yet haven't seen anyone complaining about that from the progressive side of things.
Actually, Mormonism should have been an issue, as in they are too fucking crazy to have nukes. But the media avoided that topic like the plague. But let's get real here. Romney got almost as many votes as McCain and only about 4 million less than Bush-43 did. The problem isn't that the he didn't get out the REpublican Vote. He's maxed out that credit card. It's that he hasn't expanded the party the way Bush and Reagan did.
Romney's 'promise' to veto any Dream Act. Since there wasn't one passed and the only action taken was by EO, there wasn't a reason for the promise.
No, there was a very good reason. Romney desperately wanted to get to the right of Rick Perry, and Rick Perry is a conservative who has to actually contend with a large hispanic constiuency. So while Rick was bowing to common sense in his state, the only Hispanics Romney had to worry about were the ones trimming his shrubs.
Romney just assumed that if his rich buddies kept the economy bad, he could get people to go along with him no matter what he said.
