Why Obama Killed the Keystone Pipeline

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Been thinking about this ever since he did it. Seems odd doesn't it, to turn down a project that the unions wanted, thousands of new, good-paying jobs, and importing oil from a freindly neighbor rather than an unfriendly country elsewhere. Well, maybe we now have the answer, the rest of the story. It comes from a San Francisco newspaper story a month back, basically says it was about money.

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Now we know that the decision to reject the Keystone pipeline really came down to the desires of one ultra-wealthy person: Susie Tompkins Buell, a leading donor to Democrats:
Buell, a co-founder of the Esprit clothing company, has donated millions of dollars to Democratic causes and presidential candidates, including Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore and her good friend, Hillary Rodham Clinton. In the past 10 years, she has given $25 million to progressive political and charitable causes and has raised $10 million for candidates and committees, her office said.
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So Ms. Buell took to the streets (very tidy, upscale streets, to be sure) to protest:
In October, Buell made headlines after she led a protest of monied Democrats in San Francisco against the controversial 1,700-mile Keystone XL oil pipeline. Her fellow protesters outside an Obama fundraiser included Michael Kieschnick, co-founder of CREDO Mobile and Working Assets, which has donated $75 million to progressive causes; IT executive David desJardins; and Anna Hawken McKay, wife of Rob McKay, a wealthy philanthropist whose father founded Taco Bell.

The Democrats, who could have easily afforded the $5,000-a-plate Obama fundraiser, stood on the curb outside the W Hotel as Buell delivered a tough assessment of the president: “I don’t know where he stands on anything,” she said.

And, like magic, that was the end of Keystone:
Kieschnick said Buell’s decision to take an aggressive stance was pivotal to the eventual outcome – a White House announcement last month that the application for the pipeline from the Canadian province of Alberta to Texas refineries would be rejected.

“Before her involvement, the powers that be clearly dismissed our concerns” about the long-term environmental impacts of the pipeline, said Kieschnick, who has known Buell for 20 years. People inside the White House “clearly noticed,” he said. “Then they realized this was not only bad policy, this was bad politics.”

Obama losing financial backing of big S.F. donor
 
Umm because the governor of Nebraska requested it?


You really think Obama gives a crap about what the governor of Nebraska thinks, regardless of what party he belongs to? And BTW, hasn't that governor come out in support of the pipeline a couple of months ago?
 
Been thinking about this ever since he did it. Seems odd doesn't it, to turn down a project that the unions wanted, thousands of new, good-paying jobs, and importing oil from a freindly neighbor rather than an unfriendly country elsewhere.

You really ought to try and keep up. The pipeline wasn't killed. It's moving forward.
 
Umm because the governor of Nebraska requested it?


You really think Obama gives a crap about what the governor of Nebraska thinks, regardless of what party he belongs to? And BTW, hasn't that governor come out in support of the pipeline a couple of months ago?

Yes but with a different route which has yet to be determined.
Kinda hard to build a pipeline with no determined route?
But that would be the republican way it seems to be how they pick presidential candidates.
 
Keystone is not dead. The first extension is going from Ok to the Gulf Coast. And likely after the election the next part that will come in from Canada will be approved.
 
Been thinking about this ever since he did it. Seems odd doesn't it, to turn down a project that the unions wanted, thousands of new, good-paying jobs, and importing oil from a freindly neighbor rather than an unfriendly country elsewhere. Well, maybe we now have the answer, the rest of the story. It comes from a San Francisco newspaper story a month back, basically says it was about money.

snippet:
Now we know that the decision to reject the Keystone pipeline really came down to the desires of one ultra-wealthy person: Susie Tompkins Buell, a leading donor to Democrats:
Buell, a co-founder of the Esprit clothing company, has donated millions of dollars to Democratic causes and presidential candidates, including Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore and her good friend, Hillary Rodham Clinton. In the past 10 years, she has given $25 million to progressive political and charitable causes and has raised $10 million for candidates and committees, her office said.

So Ms. Buell took to the streets (very tidy, upscale streets, to be sure) to protest:
In October, Buell made headlines after she led a protest of monied Democrats in San Francisco against the controversial 1,700-mile Keystone XL oil pipeline. Her fellow protesters outside an Obama fundraiser included Michael Kieschnick, co-founder of CREDO Mobile and Working Assets, which has donated $75 million to progressive causes; IT executive David desJardins; and Anna Hawken McKay, wife of Rob McKay, a wealthy philanthropist whose father founded Taco Bell.

The Democrats, who could have easily afforded the $5,000-a-plate Obama fundraiser, stood on the curb outside the W Hotel as Buell delivered a tough assessment of the president: “I don’t know where he stands on anything,” she said.

And, like magic, that was the end of Keystone:
Kieschnick said Buell’s decision to take an aggressive stance was pivotal to the eventual outcome – a White House announcement last month that the application for the pipeline from the Canadian province of Alberta to Texas refineries would be rejected.

“Before her involvement, the powers that be clearly dismissed our concerns” about the long-term environmental impacts of the pipeline, said Kieschnick, who has known Buell for 20 years. People inside the White House “clearly noticed,” he said. “Then they realized this was not only bad policy, this was bad politics.”

Obama losing financial backing of big S.F. donor

You are leaving out the fact that the Big Wallstreet Banks bought Obama the presidency & they own more oil & production than the "Big Oil" companies do. These Wallstreet Banks benefit the most by Obama driving up oil prices. These guys hedge themselves each way, So as long as Obama makes oil price move they make money. So first he is against the oil pipeline to drive up prices & then he will be for it. Next he will bring Iran back into the political ring to drive prices even higher. All his efforts move up & down in a direction to slow the growth of oil production in the USA in order to make his banker buddies rich.
 
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Been thinking about this ever since he did it. Seems odd doesn't it, to turn down a project that the unions wanted, thousands of new, good-paying jobs, and importing oil from a freindly neighbor rather than an unfriendly country elsewhere. Well, maybe we now have the answer, the rest of the story. It comes from a San Francisco newspaper story a month back, basically says it was about money.

snippet:
Now we know that the decision to reject the Keystone pipeline really came down to the desires of one ultra-wealthy person: Susie Tompkins Buell, a leading donor to Democrats:
Buell, a co-founder of the Esprit clothing company, has donated millions of dollars to Democratic causes and presidential candidates, including Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore and her good friend, Hillary Rodham Clinton. In the past 10 years, she has given $25 million to progressive political and charitable causes and has raised $10 million for candidates and committees, her office said.

So Ms. Buell took to the streets (very tidy, upscale streets, to be sure) to protest:
In October, Buell made headlines after she led a protest of monied Democrats in San Francisco against the controversial 1,700-mile Keystone XL oil pipeline. Her fellow protesters outside an Obama fundraiser included Michael Kieschnick, co-founder of CREDO Mobile and Working Assets, which has donated $75 million to progressive causes; IT executive David desJardins; and Anna Hawken McKay, wife of Rob McKay, a wealthy philanthropist whose father founded Taco Bell.

The Democrats, who could have easily afforded the $5,000-a-plate Obama fundraiser, stood on the curb outside the W Hotel as Buell delivered a tough assessment of the president: “I don’t know where he stands on anything,” she said.

And, like magic, that was the end of Keystone:
Kieschnick said Buell’s decision to take an aggressive stance was pivotal to the eventual outcome – a White House announcement last month that the application for the pipeline from the Canadian province of Alberta to Texas refineries would be rejected.

“Before her involvement, the powers that be clearly dismissed our concerns” about the long-term environmental impacts of the pipeline, said Kieschnick, who has known Buell for 20 years. People inside the White House “clearly noticed,” he said. “Then they realized this was not only bad policy, this was bad politics.”

Obama losing financial backing of big S.F. donor

You are leaving out the fact that the Big Wallstreet Banks bought Obama the presidency & they own more oil & production than the "Big Oil" companies do. These Wallstreet Banks benefit the most by Obama driving up oil prices. These guys hedge themselves each way, So as long as Obama makes oil price move they make money. So first he is against the oil pipeline to drive up prices & then he will be for it. Next he will bring Iran back into the political ring to drive prices even higher. All his efforts move up & down in a direction to slow the growth of oil production in the USA in order to make his banker buddies rich.


Crony Capitalism in action.
 
Been thinking about this ever since he did it. Seems odd doesn't it, to turn down a project that the unions wanted, thousands of new, good-paying jobs, and importing oil from a freindly neighbor rather than an unfriendly country elsewhere. Well, maybe we now have the answer, the rest of the story. It comes from a San Francisco newspaper story a month back, basically says it was about money.

snippet:
Now we know that the decision to reject the Keystone pipeline really came down to the desires of one ultra-wealthy person: Susie Tompkins Buell, a leading donor to Democrats:
Buell, a co-founder of the Esprit clothing company, has donated millions of dollars to Democratic causes and presidential candidates, including Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore and her good friend, Hillary Rodham Clinton. In the past 10 years, she has given $25 million to progressive political and charitable causes and has raised $10 million for candidates and committees, her office said.

So Ms. Buell took to the streets (very tidy, upscale streets, to be sure) to protest:
In October, Buell made headlines after she led a protest of monied Democrats in San Francisco against the controversial 1,700-mile Keystone XL oil pipeline. Her fellow protesters outside an Obama fundraiser included Michael Kieschnick, co-founder of CREDO Mobile and Working Assets, which has donated $75 million to progressive causes; IT executive David desJardins; and Anna Hawken McKay, wife of Rob McKay, a wealthy philanthropist whose father founded Taco Bell.

The Democrats, who could have easily afforded the $5,000-a-plate Obama fundraiser, stood on the curb outside the W Hotel as Buell delivered a tough assessment of the president: “I don’t know where he stands on anything,” she said.

And, like magic, that was the end of Keystone:
Kieschnick said Buell’s decision to take an aggressive stance was pivotal to the eventual outcome – a White House announcement last month that the application for the pipeline from the Canadian province of Alberta to Texas refineries would be rejected.

“Before her involvement, the powers that be clearly dismissed our concerns” about the long-term environmental impacts of the pipeline, said Kieschnick, who has known Buell for 20 years. People inside the White House “clearly noticed,” he said. “Then they realized this was not only bad policy, this was bad politics.”

Obama losing financial backing of big S.F. donor

You are leaving out the fact that the Big Wallstreet Banks bought Obama the presidency & they own more oil & production than the "Big Oil" companies do. These Wallstreet Banks benefit the most by Obama driving up oil prices. These guys hedge themselves each way, So as long as Obama makes oil price move they make money. So first he is against the oil pipeline to drive up prices & then he will be for it. Next he will bring Iran back into the political ring to drive prices even higher. All his efforts move in a direction to slow the growth of oil production in the USA in order to make his banker buddies rich.


Interesting theory, but I've seen no evidence to support it.
 
Keystone is not dead. The first extension is going from Ok to the Gulf Coast. And likely after the election the next part that will come in from Canada will be approved.

Only after in an election year Obama has faced a shitstorm of criticism from even his beloved unions.

It's transparent as Hell.

It's going through cuz Obama can't stop it. No federal boundary is crossed, so he is basically taking credit for allowing part of the pipeline to be built that he couldn't stop.
 
Umm because the governor of Nebraska requested it?


You really think Obama gives a crap about what the governor of Nebraska thinks, regardless of what party he belongs to? And BTW, hasn't that governor come out in support of the pipeline a couple of months ago?

Well yeah. You may have noticed, he's included people from the other party in his cabinet. You may have also noticed he ditched universal health care and went with the republican plan..which they in turned ditched.

And Obama didn't kill the plan. He wanted to review it.

Like what should have been done in the gulf..when BP handed in a photocopied disaster recovery plan..complete with impact studies to Walruses.
 
Keystone is not dead. The first extension is going from Ok to the Gulf Coast. And likely after the election the next part that will come in from Canada will be approved.

Only after in an election year Obama has faced a shitstorm of criticism from even his beloved unions.

It's transparent as Hell.

It's going through cuz Obama can't stop it. No federal boundary is crossed, so he is basically taking credit for allowing part of the pipeline to be built that he couldn't stop.

That would be it. Taking credit for something he stated he was against.

He's not going to get away with it, and I hope in the debates he gets called out on his duplicity.
 
Keystone is not dead. The first extension is going from Ok to the Gulf Coast. And likely after the election the next part that will come in from Canada will be approved.

Only after in an election year Obama has faced a shitstorm of criticism from even his beloved unions.

It's transparent as Hell.

It's going through cuz Obama can't stop it. No federal boundary is crossed, so he is basically taking credit for allowing part of the pipeline to be built that he couldn't stop.

You bet its transparant. He will try to make himself look like a hero.

Barry will be up shit creek if gas prices get any higher. Hell you almost gotta take out a loan to fill up your car.

Let Barry start spouting his green bs and see how the car driving, go to work, American Voter reacts.

Think it will go over rather like a fart in church.
 
Keystone is not dead. The first extension is going from Ok to the Gulf Coast. And likely after the election the next part that will come in from Canada will be approved.

Only after in an election year Obama has faced a shitstorm of criticism from even his beloved unions.

It's transparent as Hell.

It's going through cuz Obama can't stop it. No federal boundary is crossed, so he is basically taking credit for allowing part of the pipeline to be built that he couldn't stop.

Anyone with knowledge of the proposed pipeline knew this before he blocked the northern part. The President did say he was cutting some of the red tape to get it going faster. That's not how some newcasters have framed it, but that is all he did.
 
Keystone is not dead. The first extension is going from Ok to the Gulf Coast. And likely after the election the next part that will come in from Canada will be approved.

Only after in an election year Obama has faced a shitstorm of criticism from even his beloved unions.

It's transparent as Hell.

It's going through cuz Obama can't stop it. No federal boundary is crossed, so he is basically taking credit for allowing part of the pipeline to be built that he couldn't stop.

I'm confused, the name of this thread is "Why Obama Killed the Keystone Pipeline" but then you say "he couldn't stop it'.

Anyway, I'm glad it's moving forward. Obama would be an idiot for actually killing the project. I'm glad he caved. Is this an election year?
 
It's going through cuz Obama can't stop it. No federal boundary is crossed, so he is basically taking credit for allowing part of the pipeline to be built that he couldn't stop.

Obama can have the EPA stop anything! He can also use the LRB. There are many, many, many tools at his disposal. Jimmy Carter used many tactics to slow the Alaska Pipeline construction.
 
It's going through cuz Obama can't stop it. No federal boundary is crossed, so he is basically taking credit for allowing part of the pipeline to be built that he couldn't stop.

Obama can have the EPA stop anything! He can also use the LRB. There are many, many, many tools at his disposal. Jimmy Carter used many tactics to slow the Alaska Pipeline construction.
Obama is already using the EPA to impliment Cap and Trade since the Congress didn't agree with it.

Obama is circumventing the Congress, and is dictating using an agency that needs to go.
 
It's going through cuz Obama can't stop it. No federal boundary is crossed, so he is basically taking credit for allowing part of the pipeline to be built that he couldn't stop.

Obama can have the EPA stop anything! He can also use the LRB. There are many, many, many tools at his disposal. Jimmy Carter used many tactics to slow the Alaska Pipeline construction.
Obama is already using the EPA to impliment Cap and Trade since the Congress didn't agree with it.

Obama is circumventing the Congress, and is dictating using an agency that needs to go.

You can pull red herrings out of your ass all day long. The fact remains that the premise and statements, calling Obama a liar, in this thread are clearly bullshit. Bullshit that you, and your ilk jumped on the bandwagon with, and you're too big a coward to man up to.
 
You are leaving out the fact that the Big Wallstreet Banks bought Obama the presidency & they own more oil & production than the "Big Oil" companies do. These Wallstreet Banks benefit the most by Obama driving up oil prices. These guys hedge themselves each way, So as long as Obama makes oil price move they make money. So first he is against the oil pipeline to drive up prices & then he will be for it. Next he will bring Iran back into the political ring to drive prices even higher. All his efforts move in a direction to slow the growth of oil production in the USA in order to make his banker buddies rich.


Interesting theory, but I've seen no evidence to support it.

Obamas Top Contributors that Bought his Presidency.
University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295

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