Why not move to Cuba or France if you want socialism?

[LibertyLemming]

Did you know Cuba's healthcare ratings plummeted after the Glorious Revoultion?

Did you know we train many of our doctors there?

I'd love to see how you define "many".

 

[hazlnut]

Why not move to Cuba or France if you want socialism?

Why destroy America???? We don't want your rat poison.

Yeah, and take your impotent rage with you, teabagger.

 

[Listening]

My ancestors were here in 1640. They have fought in every war in our nations history. They moved west, some of them, anyway, with the frontier, and some were in the Oregon Territory during and some after the Civil War.

They saw this nation evolve from the state where only white males that were 21 years or older, and owned land, could vote, to the present state where all citizens above 18 can vote. They saw an agriarian backwater nation change to an urban economic powerhouse.

What you call socialism the rest us call a Social Contract. And I would further that contract in order that all in this nation have a better oppertunity to advance as far as they possibly can. It is my nation, and always will be. Rather than trying to make this nation unpleasant enough that those you disagree with politically will leave it, why don't you show where you ideas for this nation would make it pleasant enough for people to agree with you and stay?

Nobody signed a social contract and it does not exist.

This country was founded on the individual pursuit of happiness, not on a collective pursuit. Now, as hard as that is for you to understand, how is it that you bastards don't get that if Mass wants health care, they can elect a legislature to push it through and a governor who will sign it into law....and it does not have to affect Kansas (the majority of whom don't want it, hate it and don't need you to tell them what is best for them) at all.

So, you don't need to leave the country as much as you can quit pushing YOUR idea of a good social compact on everyone else.

 

[Mac1958]

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As with most other issues, "socialism" is not an either/or, black & white issue. You're not "capitalist" one day, and then "socialist" the next. A flag doesn't go up signifying that you're suddenly "socialist".

Seems to me you can't have a reasonable conversation about whether we are, or should be, "socialist" until everyone can agree on precisely what socialism is.

Of course, that's only if you actually want reasonable conversation.

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[FJO]

OKTEXAS, why do you call Obama this, MAOBAMA.

I am not OKTEXAS but if I may.... you see... because it sounds perect, the last O of Mao catches up with the first O of Obama it joints beautifully! Lovely semantics there !

that would make sense if Obama was a communist, which he is not. To think that he is makes that person sound pretty stupid, doesnt it?

Obama wants to redistribute wealth, regardless of who made it, who earned it and who deserves it. That is just another way to say: To all, according to their needs.

Which is paraphrased from Karl Marx's book, "Das Kapital".

Which is communism. And anyone who subscribes to that is a communist.

 

[LibertyLemming]

My ancestors were here in 1640. They have fought in every war in our nations history. They moved west, some of them, anyway, with the frontier, and some were in the Oregon Territory during and some after the Civil War.

They saw this nation evolve from the state where only white males that were 21 years or older, and owned land, could vote, to the present state where all citizens above 18 can vote. They saw an agriarian backwater nation change to an urban economic powerhouse.

What you call socialism the rest us call a Social Contract. And I would further that contract in order that all in this nation have a better oppertunity to advance as far as they possibly can. It is my nation, and always will be. Rather than trying to make this nation unpleasant enough that those you disagree with politically will leave it, why don't you show where you ideas for this nation would make it pleasant enough for people to agree with you and stay?

Nobody signed a social contract and it does not exist.

This country was founded on the individual pursuit of happiness, not on a collective pursuit. Now, as hard as that is for you to understand, how is it that you bastards don't get that if Mass wants health care, they can elect a legislature to push it through and a governor who will sign it into law....and it does not have to affect Kansas (the majority of whom don't want it, hate it and don't need you to tell them what is best for them) at all.

So, you don't need to leave the country as much as you can quit pushing YOUR idea of a good social compact on everyone else.

Indeed this is one of the beauties of a limited federal government. Let states, which are closer to the population, create the majority of legislation, especially on social issues. If I don't like the way it is done in Mass. I should be able to purchase my healthcare from private companies in Kansas or what have you. The entire country should never be forced to participate in something, there are very few issues which require a country wide bandaid.

 

[Listening]

My ancestors were here in 1640. They have fought in every war in our nations history. They moved west, some of them, anyway, with the frontier, and some were in the Oregon Territory during and some after the Civil War.

They saw this nation evolve from the state where only white males that were 21 years or older, and owned land, could vote, to the present state where all citizens above 18 can vote. They saw an agriarian backwater nation change to an urban economic powerhouse.

What you call socialism the rest us call a Social Contract. And I would further that contract in order that all in this nation have a better oppertunity to advance as far as they possibly can. It is my nation, and always will be. Rather than trying to make this nation unpleasant enough that those you disagree with politically will leave it, why don't you show where you ideas for this nation would make it pleasant enough for people to agree with you and stay?

Nobody signed a social contract and it does not exist.

This country was founded on the individual pursuit of happiness, not on a collective pursuit. Now, as hard as that is for you to understand, how is it that you bastards don't get that if Mass wants health care, they can elect a legislature to push it through and a governor who will sign it into law....and it does not have to affect Kansas (the majority of whom don't want it, hate it and don't need you to tell them what is best for them) at all.

So, you don't need to leave the country as much as you can quit pushing YOUR idea of a good social compact on everyone else.

Indeed this is one of the beauties of a limited federal government. Let states, which are closer to the population, create the majority of legislation, especially on social issues. If I don't like the way it is done in Mass. I should be able to purchase my healthcare from private companies in Kansas or what have you. The entire country should never be forced to participate in something, there are very few issues which require a country wide bandaid.

And the GOP has allowed this to slip away over time. I get more pissed at them than I do at people like Biden.

The concept of states within a nation is something the left does not understand. They feel that if it's good for one...it's good for all 310,000,000 of us.

Talk about nanny up the ass.

 

[LibertyLemming]

Nobody signed a social contract and it does not exist.

This country was founded on the individual pursuit of happiness, not on a collective pursuit. Now, as hard as that is for you to understand, how is it that you bastards don't get that if Mass wants health care, they can elect a legislature to push it through and a governor who will sign it into law....and it does not have to affect Kansas (the majority of whom don't want it, hate it and don't need you to tell them what is best for them) at all.

So, you don't need to leave the country as much as you can quit pushing YOUR idea of a good social compact on everyone else.

Indeed this is one of the beauties of a limited federal government. Let states, which are closer to the population, create the majority of legislation, especially on social issues. If I don't like the way it is done in Mass. I should be able to purchase my healthcare from private companies in Kansas or what have you. The entire country should never be forced to participate in something, there are very few issues which require a country wide bandaid.

And the GOP has allowed this to slip away over time. I get more pissed at them than I do at people like Biden.

The concept of states within a nation is something the left does not understand. They feel that if it's good for one...it's good for all 310,000,000 of us.

Talk about nanny up the ass.

Indeed. To be fair though, the probability of a Republican making drastic changes to this line of thinking is almost zero. Both of the main parties seek more control for the federal government, not less.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Why not move to someplace where you can just shoot people who offend you? You would be so much happier.

Iran and Saudi Arabia are the most conservative countries. Too bad he hates Muslims.

 

[occupied]

Why not move to someplace where you can just shoot people who offend you? You would be so much happier.

Iran and Saudi Arabia are the most conservative countries. Too bad he hates Muslims.

Loser would not actually be happy in anything less than a one party police state that he is personally the dictator of.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I know the answer to this but gotta ask anyway ... Can anyone give even one example of Obama's so-called "socialism".

Don't bother saying health care insurance that each of us must pay for instead of the SOCIALISTIC and REPUBLICAN system we currently have. You know the one I mean - where we all have to pay for the health care of others. That's the same one where we some of us have to pay for health care for illegals, including delivery of babies and abortions so quit whining about illegal's babies and abortions because you have been lying about not wanting to pay for that.

Or are you talking about 32 straight months of jobs and recovery IN SPITE of the damn pubpots doing everything they can to keep us from getting the jobs we need.

And never mind the stupid lies about Jeep or Chavez. That's just a desperate Mittens throwing everything but the kitchen sink and hoping one of his lies will stick.

Just stick to FACTS and name the socialism you SAY you see from Obama.

Damn, your one good propagandast, if your audience was freaking stupid. Health Insurance no longer exist in this country now, thanks to your dear leader. I think you need to look up the definition of insurance. All we have now is health care plans, there is a big difference between the two. As for the rest, it's not even worth addressing.

Only a blind rw would say that asking a question is propagandizing.

PROVE that ObamaCare/ACA means that insurance no longer exists.

Although ACA means we will now get our money's worth instead of it benefiting only big insurance and big drug pushers, the opposite of what you say is true although.

But hey, you must know something I don't so,

PROVE IT.

And, how does ACA make us "socialist" since FACT is that the crap system we now have IS socialist.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Did you know Cuba's healthcare ratings plummeted after the Glorious Revoultion?

Did you know we train many of our doctors there?

I'd love to see how you define "many".

Do you have any clue about any subject you write about?

Seriously. You've been posting her a short time but every post I read of yours is utter nonsense.

and, do you have any clue WHY American doctors are training Cuba?

If you can find google.com, look it up. I'm through holding the hands of ignorant rw's who value their ignorance over any kind of education - just like their leaders.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You don't know what socialism and you can't define it. OP fail.

Why not move to Cuba or France if you want socialism?

Why destroy America???? We don't want your rat poison.

 

[LibertyLemming]

Did you know we train many of our doctors there?

I'd love to see how you define "many".

Do you have any clue about any subject you write about?

Seriously. You've been posting her a short time but every post I read of yours is utter nonsense.

and, do you have any clue WHY American doctors are training Cuba?

If you can find google.com, look it up. I'm through holding the hands of ignorant rw's who value their ignorance over any kind of education - just like their leaders.

There is a pattern on this board of just insulting or critiquing people instead of a discussion. I'll wait for you to defend your point.

 

[Murf76]

Why not move to Cuba or France if you want socialism?

Why destroy America???? We don't want your rat poison.

Simple. Parasites need a host in order to exist. It's disgusting and grotesque... like a tapeworm, but bloodsuckers are gonna suck blood.

 

[OKTexas]

I know the answer to this but gotta ask anyway ... Can anyone give even one example of Obama's so-called "socialism".

Don't bother saying health care insurance that each of us must pay for instead of the SOCIALISTIC and REPUBLICAN system we currently have. You know the one I mean - where we all have to pay for the health care of others. That's the same one where we some of us have to pay for health care for illegals, including delivery of babies and abortions so quit whining about illegal's babies and abortions because you have been lying about not wanting to pay for that.

Or are you talking about 32 straight months of jobs and recovery IN SPITE of the damn pubpots doing everything they can to keep us from getting the jobs we need.

And never mind the stupid lies about Jeep or Chavez. That's just a desperate Mittens throwing everything but the kitchen sink and hoping one of his lies will stick.

Just stick to FACTS and name the socialism you SAY you see from Obama.

Damn, your one good propagandast, if your audience was freaking stupid. Health Insurance no longer exist in this country now, thanks to your dear leader. I think you need to look up the definition of insurance. All we have now is health care plans, there is a big difference between the two. As for the rest, it's not even worth addressing.

Only a blind rw would say that asking a question is propagandizing.

PROVE that ObamaCare/ACA means that insurance no longer exists.

Although ACA means we will now get our money's worth instead of it benefiting only big insurance and big drug pushers, the opposite of what you say is true although.

But hey, you must know something I don't so,

PROVE IT.

And, how does ACA make us "socialist" since FACT is that the crap system we now have IS socialist.

Didn't bother to look at the defintion of insurance did you, well here it is.

INSURANCE
A promise of compensation for specific potential future losses in exchange for a periodic payment. Insurance is designed to protect the financial well-being of an individual, company or other entity in the case of unexpected loss.

What is insurance? definition and meaning

You see if existing circumsatnces are covered it no longer meets the definition of insurance, because your not being protected against a future or unexpected loss. What we have now is socialistic health care, administered by private companies. Even a commiecrat should be able to grasp the concept.

 

[LibertyLemming]

Better yet, what would training even 1 physician in Cuba have to do with their healthcare being better before communism.?

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, it is not simply because you assert it. Define socialism, then show us how not nationalizing insurance companies makes the socialist insurance companies.

Damn, your one good propagandast, if your audience was freaking stupid. Health Insurance no longer exist in this country now, thanks to your dear leader. I think you need to look up the definition of insurance. All we have now is health care plans, there is a big difference between the two. As for the rest, it's not even worth addressing.

Only a blind rw would say that asking a question is propagandizing.

PROVE that ObamaCare/ACA means that insurance no longer exists.

Although ACA means we will now get our money's worth instead of it benefiting only big insurance and big drug pushers, the opposite of what you say is true although.

But hey, you must know something I don't so,

PROVE IT.

And, how does ACA make us "socialist" since FACT is that the crap system we now have IS socialist.

Didn't bother to look at the defintion of insurance did you, well here it is.

INSURANCE
A promise of compensation for specific potential future losses in exchange for a periodic payment. Insurance is designed to protect the financial well-being of an individual, company or other entity in the case of unexpected loss.

What is insurance? definition and meaning

You see if existing circumsatnces are covered it no longer meets the definition of insurance, because your not being protected against a future or unexpected loss. What we have now is socialistic health care, administered by private companies. Even a commiecrat should be able to grasp the concept.

 

[Wry Catcher]

All this Obama is a Socialist would be comical if it were not for the number of poorly educated and ignorant fools who continue to post the Big Lie. People all over the world read posts on this message board by those above - do I need to name them - who are an embarrassment to all sane and educated Americans.

 

[francoHFW]

So the RWers are back to screwing sick people LOL! Simply spend all your money and assets, quit your job, and go on welfare and Medicaid...BRILLIANT! AND charge twice as much as any other country for bad results...
Switz and Holland have an O-care style deal- where capitalism was invented. Jeeebus Pub dupes are perfect chumps for the greedy idiotic rich Pubs....