Why not Arrest Sanctuary Jurisdictions When an interstate felony results?

[Rigby5]

At least tie up the leaders of those sanctuary states/cities in hundreds of lawsuits for the rest of their lives. That way they get to lose everything they own and go through hell in the process.

That's a trick the left is particularly fond of.

States and municipalities have no legal obligation to enforce federal immigration law.

Actually it is a violation of individual rights for states or municipalities to attempt to enforce federal immigration law.

ROFLMAO, providing information about an illegal criminal isn't a violation of their rights. Where do you freaks come up with this shit?

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Immigration is outside of state or local jurisdiction, so they can't be authorized to do anything about immigration.
They have no more ability to question immigration status than the guy working the counter at a Wendy's.
And by the way, being in violation of immgration law is not a crime, but just a regulatory infraction.
It can become a crime if one committed fraud with a fake ID or something, but not if for example, you just over stay a visa.

 

[OKTexas]

States and municipalities have no legal obligation to enforce federal immigration law.

Actually it is a violation of individual rights for states or municipalities to attempt to enforce federal immigration law.

ROFLMAO, providing information about an illegal criminal isn't a violation of their rights. Where do you freaks come up with this shit?

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How are you going to be able to tell who is an illegal alien without violating the law with an illegal ID check or universal database?
Only federal agents have the authority to even ask if someone is an noncitizen or not. And even that is not clearly legal?
Citizenship status is private information as far as state and municipal agents are concerned, or else you would be opening up the door to illegal discrimination against non-citizens.

Why don't you review US v. AZ and get back to me on that. It's not my job to educate you.

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{... All justices agreed to uphold the provision of the law allowing Arizona state police to investigate the immigration status of an individual stopped, detained, or arrested if there is reasonable suspicion that individual is in the country illegally. However, Justice Kennedy specified in the majority opinion that state police may not detain the individual for a prolonged amount of time for not carrying immigration documents; and that cases of racial profiling are allowed to proceed through the courts, if such cases happen to arise later on. ...}

So it is still illegal to just investigate immigration status randomly.
You have to have some "reasonable suspicion" first.

So much for your assertion that only federal agents can inquire about immigration status. You did say this didn't you?

Only federal agents have the authority to even ask if someone is an noncitizen or not.

You need to do considerably more research before you can even discuss this topic.

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[Rigby5]

Actually it is a violation of individual rights for states or municipalities to attempt to enforce federal immigration law.

ROFLMAO, providing information about an illegal criminal isn't a violation of their rights. Where do you freaks come up with this shit?

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How are you going to be able to tell who is an illegal alien without violating the law with an illegal ID check or universal database?
Only federal agents have the authority to even ask if someone is an noncitizen or not. And even that is not clearly legal?
Citizenship status is private information as far as state and municipal agents are concerned, or else you would be opening up the door to illegal discrimination against non-citizens.

Why don't you review US v. AZ and get back to me on that. It's not my job to educate you.

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{... All justices agreed to uphold the provision of the law allowing Arizona state police to investigate the immigration status of an individual stopped, detained, or arrested if there is reasonable suspicion that individual is in the country illegally. However, Justice Kennedy specified in the majority opinion that state police may not detain the individual for a prolonged amount of time for not carrying immigration documents; and that cases of racial profiling are allowed to proceed through the courts, if such cases happen to arise later on. ...}

So it is still illegal to just investigate immigration status randomly.
You have to have some "reasonable suspicion" first.

So much for your assertion that only federal agents can inquire about immigration status. You did say this didn't you?

Only federal agents have the authority to even ask if someone is an noncitizen or not.

You need to do considerably more research before you can even discuss this topic.

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No, I am right. To have probable cause, the cop would have to see them run across the border or something.
Not speaking English is not probable cause.

 

[OKTexas]

At least tie up the leaders of those sanctuary states/cities in hundreds of lawsuits for the rest of their lives. That way they get to lose everything they own and go through hell in the process.

That's a trick the left is particularly fond of.

States and municipalities have no legal obligation to enforce federal immigration law.

Actually it is a violation of individual rights for states or municipalities to attempt to enforce federal immigration law.

ROFLMAO, providing information about an illegal criminal isn't a violation of their rights. Where do you freaks come up with this shit?

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Immigration is outside of state or local jurisdiction, so they can't be authorized to do anything about immigration.
They have no more ability to question immigration status than the guy working the counter at a Wendy's.
And by the way, being in violation of immgration law is not a crime, but just a regulatory infraction.
It can become a crime if one committed fraud with a fake ID or something, but not if for example, you just over stay a visa.

Once again, you're too ignorant to discuss the topic. First offense for crossing illegally can carry a 6 month jail term and a $250.00 fine. Second offense can get up to 2 years plus fines. Do some reading, so you won't keep making a fool of yourself.

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[OKTexas]

ROFLMAO, providing information about an illegal criminal isn't a violation of their rights. Where do you freaks come up with this shit?

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How are you going to be able to tell who is an illegal alien without violating the law with an illegal ID check or universal database?
Only federal agents have the authority to even ask if someone is an noncitizen or not. And even that is not clearly legal?
Citizenship status is private information as far as state and municipal agents are concerned, or else you would be opening up the door to illegal discrimination against non-citizens.

Why don't you review US v. AZ and get back to me on that. It's not my job to educate you.

.

{... All justices agreed to uphold the provision of the law allowing Arizona state police to investigate the immigration status of an individual stopped, detained, or arrested if there is reasonable suspicion that individual is in the country illegally. However, Justice Kennedy specified in the majority opinion that state police may not detain the individual for a prolonged amount of time for not carrying immigration documents; and that cases of racial profiling are allowed to proceed through the courts, if such cases happen to arise later on. ...}

So it is still illegal to just investigate immigration status randomly.
You have to have some "reasonable suspicion" first.

So much for your assertion that only federal agents can inquire about immigration status. You did say this didn't you?

Only federal agents have the authority to even ask if someone is an noncitizen or not.

You need to do considerably more research before you can even discuss this topic.

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No, I am right. To have probable cause, the cop would have to see them run across the border or something.
Not speaking English is not probable cause.

Any interaction with law enforcement qualifies. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. You just look silly.

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[Monk-Eye]

" Fabricating Opinions About Laws To Harm Citizens "

* It All Adds Up *

That is silly, the first graph only shows that deductibles have risen, not premiums.
The second graph is attributed to Amanda Kowolski, not a member of Associated Press, so not exactly believable, but indicates a rise in premiums from 2013 to 2014, not that premiums were higher after ACA than before ACA. Sure they increased from 2013 to 2014, but are still half of what they were before ACA.

* Deported From A State With Good Reason *

You seem to fail to understand that when the US constitution authorized the federal government to do something, then that does not mean state or local agents can do it.
The US constitution specifcally prevents any state from deporting anyone from their state, and demand free and unencumbered travel, protected by the ICC.

Freedom of movement under United States law - Wikipedia
However, the Supreme Court did not invest the federal government with the authority to protect freedom of movement. Under the "privileges and immunities" clause, this authority was given to the states, a position the Court held consistently through the years in cases such as Ward v. Maryland, 79 U.S. 418 (1871), the Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1873) and United States v. Harris, 106 U.S. 629 (1883).[2][3]


* Particular Privileges Entitled By Subject To Jurisdiction *

Article Four of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

[...] and [the United States] shall protect each of them [the States] against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Nuances Of Legal Positivism "

* Fined For Locating And Deporting Revoking Future Privileges *

And by the way, being in violation of immgration law is not a crime, but just a regulatory infraction.
It can become a crime if one committed fraud with a fake ID or something, but not if for example, you just over stay a visa.

Over staying a visa , or illegal migration , is a condition where one is no longer " subject to the jurisdiction thereof " and hence forth not entitled to equal protection according to the letter of the law ( country of origin is responsible for enforcing violations of civil liberties ) and especially not entitled to equal endowment such as citizenship of child by birth ( child gets citizenship from nation of mother ) .

* Charged And Fined With Illegal Migration *

Regulatory offence - Wikipedia
An absolute liability offence is a type of criminal offence that does not require any fault elements (mens rea) to be proved in order to establish guilt. The prosecution only needs to show that the accused performed the prohibited act (actus reus). As such, absolute liability offences do not allow for a defence of mistake of fact.

Due to the ease with which the offence can be proven, only select offences are of this type. In most legal systems, absolute liability offences must be clearly labeled as such in the criminal code or criminal legislation.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Yup the claim cops can not ask for ID is as stupid as it gets, the idea that Hospitals can not ask for Id is up there too and YES they require LEGAL VALID ID.

They don't. Not for treatment.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The ignorance, fear, bigotry, and hate common to most on the right is on full display in this thread.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Clueless Whack A Doodles "

* Racist Socialist Signature Fleeing To Recreate Squalor *

The ignorance, fear, bigotry, and hate common to most on the right is on full display in this thread.

Raza Unida Party - Wikipedia
Partido Nacional de La Raza Unida (National United People’s Party)[2] is a Chicano political party centered on Chicano (Mexican-American) nationalism. It was born in the early 1970s and became prominent throughout Texas and Southern California.[3] It was started to combat growing inequality and dissatisfaction with the Democratic Party that was typically supported by Mexican-American voters.[4] After its establishment in Texas, the party launched electoral campaigns in Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, and California, though it only secured official party status for statewide races in Texas.[5] It did poorly in the 1978 Texas elections and leaders and members dropped away.

La Raza, as it was usually known, experienced most of its success at the local level in Southwest Texas, most notably when the party swept city council, school board, and mayoralty elections in Crystal City, Cotulla, and Carrizo Springs.[3] Much of the success was attributed to the aggressive grassroots organizing that was concentrated in cities that had the lowest income and education levels.[6]

UnidosUS - Wikipedia
UnidosUS, formerly National Council of La Raza (NCLR) (La Raza),[1] is the United States's largest Latino nonprofit advocacy organization. It advocates in favor of progressive public policy changes including immigration reform, a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and reduced deportations.[2][3]

 

[Hutch Starskey]

" Clueless Whack A Doodles "

* Racist Socialist Signature Fleeing To Recreate Squalor *

The ignorance, fear, bigotry, and hate common to most on the right is on full display in this thread.

Raza Unida Party - Wikipedia
Partido Nacional de La Raza Unida (National United People’s Party)[2] is a Chicano political party centered on Chicano (Mexican-American) nationalism. It was born in the early 1970s and became prominent throughout Texas and Southern California.[3] It was started to combat growing inequality and dissatisfaction with the Democratic Party that was typically supported by Mexican-American voters.[4] After its establishment in Texas, the party launched electoral campaigns in Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, and California, though it only secured official party status for statewide races in Texas.[5] It did poorly in the 1978 Texas elections and leaders and members dropped away.

La Raza, as it was usually known, experienced most of its success at the local level in Southwest Texas, most notably when the party swept city council, school board, and mayoralty elections in Crystal City, Cotulla, and Carrizo Springs.[3] Much of the success was attributed to the aggressive grassroots organizing that was concentrated in cities that had the lowest income and education levels.[6]

UnidosUS - Wikipedia
UnidosUS, formerly National Council of La Raza (NCLR) (La Raza),[1] is the United States's largest Latino nonprofit advocacy organization. It advocates in favor of progressive public policy changes including immigration reform, a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and reduced deportations.[2][3]

^ Tree?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Avarice And Gluttony "

* In Your Own Eye *

^ Tree?

To who is importing migrants from the global demographic that reflects its 6/7ths proportion of peoples homogeneous in their identity and rite of self determination , and alien to ones kindred self , supposed to make sense ?

* World Is Full And Claustrophobia *

Global population , global warming , food exhaustion , resource exhaustion , species extinction , blame for everyone else and no accountability for self control .