Why models run hot

[jc456]

We could put the new Berkly Earth Sciences paper in this thread too, if it were credible, as it definitively would prove the models exaggerate all warming so badly they are worthless.. In some ways, if this paper were true it would put an end to the vilification of CO2 as it shows the effect is irrelevant in earths atmosphere.

Almost 30 years after Hansen s 1988 alarm on global warming a claim of confirmation on CO2 forcing Watts Up With That

Billy,

On the forcing wave in the video, why is the cycle coming down at the right side of the graph if adding CO2 causes more heat? Look closely at the very last two cycles.

 

[Billy_Bob]

We could put the new Berkly Earth Sciences paper in this thread too, if it were credible, as it definitively would prove the models exaggerate all warming so badly they are worthless.. In some ways, if this paper were true it would put an end to the vilification of CO2 as it shows the effect is irrelevant in earths atmosphere.

Almost 30 years after Hansen s 1988 alarm on global warming a claim of confirmation on CO2 forcing Watts Up With That

Billy,

On the forcing wave in the video, why is the cycle coming down at the right side of the graph if adding CO2 causes more heat? Look closely at the very last two cycles.

There is divergence/decoupling of the two. I think this is also why they stopped the graph where they did. Adding four more years of decoupling would have rendered their whole premise null. This is one area I will be looking closely at.

You have a good eye!

 

[Billy_Bob]

We could put the new Berkly Earth Sciences paper in this thread too, if it were credible, as it definitively would prove the models exaggerate all warming so badly they are worthless.. In some ways, if this paper were true it would put an end to the vilification of CO2 as it shows the effect is irrelevant in earths atmosphere.

Almost 30 years after Hansen s 1988 alarm on global warming a claim of confirmation on CO2 forcing Watts Up With That

Billy,

On the forcing wave in the video, why is the cycle coming down at the right side of the graph if adding CO2 causes more heat? Look closely at the very last two cycles.

UPDATE!

It's worse than we thought... the decoupling is massive out four more years.. Their 0.02W/M^2 is totally negated when the next four years are included. They cherry picked the years to show a linear response where one clearly does not exist...

There are many issues but this one is damming.. I see no way around retraction..

 

[Crick]

Then you should be able to hold your breath till that comes along, right?