Why ManMade Global Warm Fails as real science

[daveman]

The cold truth about climate change - Global warming - Salon.com

I repeat:

"If the promoters of man-made climate fears truly believed the "debate is over" and the science is "settled", why is there such a strong impulse to shut down debate and threaten those who disagree?"​

 

[Nemo]

So, you are saying that 100% agreement is required? If so, we are lost. End of argument.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What is the insuperable line? What will it take to convince the naysayers? Apparently, for them, the true test of science is not empirical evidence but political correctness. They will face the reality of global warming at the grocery store when they are fighting in the isles for the food on the shelves. Then it will be a real problem - one that we should have done something about when we had the chance.

Start with the basics.

I posted the basics of the scientific method and how AGW fails every step of the way.

If you want to resurrect your Death Worshiping Cult to some type of science, state your hypothesis and tell us how it was tested.

 

[skookerasbil]

"Climate Change"..............obviously..........alot of things but NOT real science............

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/17/research-center-under-fire-for-adjusted-sea-level-data/

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Climate Change"..............obviously..........alot of things but NOT real science............

Changing Tides: Research Center Under Fire for 'Adjusted' Sea-Level Data - FoxNews.com

"The University of Colorado’s Sea Level Research Group decided in May to add 0.3 millimeters -- or about the thickness of a fingernail -- every year to its actual measurements of sea levels, sparking criticism from experts who called it an attempt to exaggerate the effects of global warming."

Read more: Changing Tides: Research Center Under Fire for 'Adjusted' Sea-Level Data - FoxNews.com

It's not science. AGW= Epic Fail

 

[westwall]

So, you are saying that 100% agreement is required? If so, we are lost. End of argument.

Why? I suggest you do some research of your own from independent sources and tell us what the real detrimental effects of warming are. then find out what the positive effects of warming are. You will find the positives far outweigh the negatives. But don't believe me do the reasearch yourself.

 

[Nemo]

I did. I have come to the conclusion that it is too late to do anything; we are beyond the tipping point. There is now only the consequences to address.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I did. I have come to the conclusion that it is too late to do anything; we are beyond the tipping point. There is now only the consequences to address.

That's not science.

 

[Nemo]

You should know that the effects of global warming are everywhere about us; and yet we literally cannot see the forest for the trees. Still, sometimes it is not the big picture, but rather the little things that tell us the truth. In this, a little mentioned aspect of global warming is the decline of Antarctic krill (estimated at 80% since 1970); which is significant both for its role in regulating carbon emissions into the atmosphere and because it is at the base of the ocean food chain - not to mention a substantial commercial harvest. Krill feed on phytoplankton beneath the sea ice, and it is the melting sea ice due to rising temperature that has caused the dramatic decrease in krill populations. This, in turn, will increase of amount of carbon emissions, exacerbating global warming and its effects. It is a vicious cycle; and one that will have profound consequences.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You should know that the effects of global warming are everywhere about us; and yet we literally cannot see the forest for the trees. Still, sometimes it is not the big picture, but rather the little things that tell us the truth. In this, a little mentioned aspect of global warming is the decline of Antarctic krill (estimated at 80% since 1970); which is significant both for its role in regulating carbon emissions into the atmosphere and because it is at the base of the ocean food chain - not to mention a substantial commercial harvest. Krill feed on phytoplankton beneath the sea ice, and it is the melting sea ice due to rising temperature that has caused the dramatic decrease in krill populations. This, in turn, will increase of amount of carbon emissions, exacerbating global warming and its effects. It is a vicious cycle; and one that will have profound consequences.

Overfishing is a problem for certain. Global Warming...not so much

 

[The Gadfly]

Second, "Scientific inquiry is generally intended to be as objective as possible, to reduce biased interpretations of results"

How can Warmers meet this test when the IPCC is on record as being driven by the predetermined outcome that they need to strangle western civilization through manmade global warming?

"...one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy." -- IPCC

The IPCC has been caught redhanded with their thumb on the data scales

Yes, and "cherry picked or not, that language absolutely demonstrates a clear political agenda behind anything the IPCC does. This is Marxism at it's finest, and needs to be exposed for what it is. Hell, even if one assumes they aren't lying(highly doubtful), I'd rather kill the whole damn planet, than to ever let socialists and communists rule it. No to socialism and communism in any form, now and forever!

 

[skookerasbil]

yuk.........yuk.............
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Can you say, phoney????

Changing Tides: Research Center Under Fire for 'Adjusted' Sea-Level Data - FoxNews.com

 

[westwall]

I did. I have come to the conclusion that it is too late to do anything; we are beyond the tipping point. There is now only the consequences to address.

Tell us the consequences then.

 

[daveman]

So, you are saying that 100% agreement is required? If so, we are lost. End of argument.

No, no one's saying that, and there's no rational way you could come to that conclusion.

The AGW cult doesn't want discussion. You can tell because they say "The debate is over!" and stick their fingers in their ears and screech "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"

Real scientists welcome debate. Cultists don't.

AGW is the Scientology of the scientific world.