Why "liberals" shun the term using "progressives" instead...

It doesn't

My local government is more directly responsible for any conveniences I pay for.

And tell me what did I get from the feds that is worth the 250K in income taxes I have paid over the past 5 years.

A military capable of blowing up the planet a few times over.

Gee thanks. NOT

You asked. Of course, that's not all you get. Unless you live in one of those states that pays more to the Feds than it gets back, your state is getting Fed $$ for its schools, roads, police forces etc.

You also get an interstate highway system that brings you goods and services as well as a rail system that does the same thing.
 
Liberal had been demonized by the right.

I have ALWAYS called myself a liberal even when it wasnt cool.

Its now cool again.

You wait and see you will hear it more now
 
You are not an American for sure, Skull Pilot. No one said "government is the answer" to everything, except you. But government does have a role to play, and you can't get away from that. Yes, you are as helpless as they come.

Where did I ever say government had no role?

And where the hell have you been lately.

People want the fucking government to be the answer for everything from being fat and lazy to guaranteeing 100% safety.
 
A military capable of blowing up the planet a few times over.

Gee thanks. NOT

You asked. Of course, that's not all you get. Unless you live in one of those states that pays more to the Feds than it gets back, your state is getting Fed $$ for its schools, roads, police forces etc.

You also get an interstate highway system that brings you goods and services as well as a rail system that does the same thing.

Depending on where he works.... his company may be getting federal dollars in a thousand different ways.
 
You are not an American for sure, Skull Pilot. No one said "government is the answer" to everything, except you. But government does have a role to play, and you can't get away from that. Yes, you are as helpless as they come.

Where did I ever say government had no role?

And where the hell have you been lately.

People want the fucking government to be the answer for everything from being fat and lazy to guaranteeing 100% safety.

Your last sentence is stupid. Talk specifics if you want any respect.
 
A military capable of blowing up the planet a few times over.

Gee thanks. NOT

You asked. Of course, that's not all you get. Unless you live in one of those states that pays more to the Feds than it gets back, your state is getting Fed $$ for its schools, roads, police forces etc.

You also get an interstate highway system that brings you goods and services as well as a rail system that does the same thing.

My town has 4 state troopers stationed at the town hall. I hardly think they need federal funding.

Schools do me no good I don't have kids so I am merely subsidizing education for others

Roads are a red herring since gas taxes are supposed to be for roads and btw you do realize that businesses pay far more in taxes for roads than anyone else don't you? For example registering my commercial vehicle costs 3 times more than a car.

I see nothing that the feds have provided that is worth the taxes I pay especially when I have to pay so much more than most even though you get all those same things.
 
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Gee thanks. NOT

You asked. Of course, that's not all you get. Unless you live in one of those states that pays more to the Feds than it gets back, your state is getting Fed $$ for its schools, roads, police forces etc.

You also get an interstate highway system that brings you goods and services as well as a rail system that does the same thing.

Depending on where he works.... his company may be getting federal dollars in a thousand different ways.

Yeah right.

Never owned a business have you?
 
What you know about LEO funding would fit it a thimble.

You help to subsidize schools because it helps the common good, the social compact.

Your roads issues is merely one of allocation. Get to work with your legislators.

What you see is not beyond your nose.
 
What you know about LEO funding would fit it a thimble.

You help to subsidize schools because it helps the common good, the social compact.

Your roads issues is merely one of allocation. Get to work with your legislators.

What you see is not beyond your nose.

So I have the "privilege" of paying more than you even though you get the same things as I do if not more?

Why should I pay more in taxes than someone with a kid? I'm not responsible for your brats.
 
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It's called marketing.

Progressive has a better ring to it than liberal.

Liberal is also not very accurate. Most of our 'liberals' in this country would be considered conservatives in most of Europe. Progressive or moderate makes more sense for most of us. There are a few true leftist out there but not many.

Just as conservative doesn't really fit for many on the right. Fundamentalist might be a better fit.

Branding actually. Marketing is the study of markets, and market responses to words and phrases.

For example, focus-group testing "Death Panels," "Death Tax," "Partial Birth Abortion." If they prove to be gems, get out there and start brand-building by having them repeated, virbatim and ad nasseum by the dutiful little soldiers who warm seats on the right side of the aisle in Congress, and do little else ... but no prob since it only costs 100s of millions a year to have them try to fuck with anything coming from Obama, good or bad.


"Virbatim"??? "ad nasseum"???

Seriously... does your web browser when you write a misspell words like "virbatim" or "ad nasseum" put a dotted red line like this "..............." under the word to show you it is misspelled?

"hoc est latina translatio ad nauseum shithead"!

The reason I ask is there really is no excuse for something so simple to escape someone who uses binary for "Whew!" to impress others.
There are reasons people correctly spell words and that there is a built in spell checker on this site.
Words have meaning. Shock right? How words are presented also lend to the perception of the writer of those words.

My perception of you is well let my binary speak for me...

011110010110111101110101001000000110000101110010011001010010000001100110011101010110110001101100001000000110111101100110001000000111001101101000011010010111010000100001
 
What you know about LEO funding would fit it a thimble.

You help to subsidize schools because it helps the common good, the social compact.

Your roads issues is merely one of allocation. Get to work with your legislators.

What you see is not beyond your nose.

So I have the "privilege" of paying more than you even though you get the same things as I do if not more?

Why should I pay more in taxes than someone with a kid? I'm not responsible for your brats.

I pay more than you, skull, and have for more than twenty years. That is why I live in comfort as I do in retirement. My family and I earned it all, paying our way, employing quite a few others in four states, and paying our taxes.

We were glad to be part of our communities working with private and public groups to better our communities.

What is your problem? You can't take all your pennies with you when you die.
 
Why would anyone want your respect?

You are a liar and an idiot.

You are not an American for sure, Skull Pilot. No one said "government is the answer" to everything, except you. But government does have a role to play, and you can't get away from that. Yes, you are as helpless as they come.

Where did I ever say government had no role?

And where the hell have you been lately.

People want the fucking government to be the answer for everything from being fat and lazy to guaranteeing 100% safety.

Your last sentence is stupid. Talk specifics if you want any respect.
 
What you know about LEO funding would fit it a thimble.

You help to subsidize schools because it helps the common good, the social compact.

Your roads issues is merely one of allocation. Get to work with your legislators.

What you see is not beyond your nose.

So I have the "privilege" of paying more than you even though you get the same things as I do if not more?

Why should I pay more in taxes than someone with a kid? I'm not responsible for your brats.

I pay more than you, skull, and have for more than twenty years. That is why I live in comfort as I do in retirement. My family and I earned it all, paying our way, employing quite a few others in four states, and paying our taxes.

We were glad to be part of our communities working with private and public groups to better our communities.

What is your problem? You can't take all your pennies with you when you die.

Maybe you do and maybe you don't

And all I want to do is live in comfort when I retire and getting ass raped by the fucking government every year isn't helping me do that now is it?

And Just because I can't take my money with me when I die is no reason to want the fucking government to take it now is it?

Believe you me I can find better places to leave my money than in the hands of those scum sucking corrupt politicians in DC.
 
In fact... why do "liberals" SHUN the label "Liberals"???
Ever hear Obama say "I'm a Liberal"????
Why are they so afraid?

Because jamming humans into label-boxes is a simplistic, inane, superficial, exclusive, ignorant, limiting, elitist tool of full-of-themselves hair-on-fire fearmonger demagogues?

Just a guess.
 
In fact... why do "liberals" SHUN the label "Liberals"???
Ever hear Obama say "I'm a Liberal"????
Why are they so afraid?

Liberals, of which I am one, is a lable I'm proud of.

Obama, however, is not a Liberal. Thus it would be misplaced.
 
In fact... why do "liberals" SHUN the label "Liberals"???
Ever hear Obama say "I'm a Liberal"????
Why are they so afraid?

Liberals, of which I am one, is a lable I'm proud of.

Obama, however, is not a Liberal. Thus it would be misplaced.

Wow.. only 23 words and YOU STILL can't even spell EVEN with the little red dotted line "label"... NOT lable !

See if YOU can't even spell simple words like "label" and even then YOU ignored the little red dotted line... "..............." how can you be believed?
I mean it IS MY perception you are a slob.
Slobs to me are therefore careless and consequently their opinions are generally based on little thought and definitely few FACTS!

Your carelessness and sloppiness totally belies whatever stupid connotation your "signature" "WHEW?" in binary is suppose to represent!

To me you are in binary (if you can figure it out)...

01111001011011110111010100100000011000010111001001100101001000000110000100100000011000110110000101110010011001010110110001100101011100110111001100100000011000010110111001100100001000000111001101110100011101010111000001101001011001000010000001110011011011000110111101100010
 
In fact... why do "liberals" SHUN the label "Liberals"???
Ever hear Obama say "I'm a Liberal"????
Why are they so afraid?

Liberals, of which I am one, is a lable I'm proud of.

Obama, however, is not a Liberal. Thus it would be misplaced.

Wow.. only 23 words and YOU STILL can't even spell EVEN with the little red dotted line "label"... NOT lable !

See if YOU can't even spell simple words like "label" and even then YOU ignored the little red dotted line... "..............." how can you be believed?
I mean it IS MY perception you are a slob.
Slobs to me are therefore careless and consequently their opinions are generally based on little thought and definitely few FACTS!

Your carelessness and sloppiness totally belies whatever stupid connotation your "signature" "WHEW?" in binary is suppose to represent!

To me you are in binary (if you can figure it out)...

01111001011011110111010100100000011000010111001001100101001000000110000100100000011000110110000101110010011001010110110001100101011100110111001100100000011000010110111001100100001000000111001101110100011101010111000001101001011001000010000001110011011011000110111101100010

Ooh. You got me!!!! Mygod, you're some kind of fucking genius!!!!

If only my exec assistants over the course of my career had been as brilliant, and could typo-correct my frequent and many typos. (Tip: they did, quite often; and yet, still reported to me. Go figure.)
 
In fact... why do "liberals" SHUN the label "Liberals"???
Ever hear Obama say "I'm a Liberal"????
Why are they so afraid?

Liberals, of which I am one, is a lable I'm proud of.

Obama, however, is not a Liberal. Thus it would be misplaced.

Wow.. only 23 words and YOU STILL can't even spell EVEN with the little red dotted line "label"... NOT lable !

See if YOU can't even spell simple words like "label" and even then YOU ignored the little red dotted line... "..............." how can you be believed?
I mean it IS MY perception you are a slob.
Slobs to me are therefore careless and consequently their opinions are generally based on little thought and definitely few FACTS!

Your carelessness and sloppiness totally belies whatever stupid connotation your "signature" "WHEW?" in binary is suppose to represent!

To me you are in binary (if you can figure it out)...

01111001011011110111010100100000011000010111001001100101001000000110000100100000011000110110000101110010011001010110110001100101011100110111001100100000011000010110111001100100001000000111001101110100011101010111000001101001011001000010000001110011011011000110111101100010

Yes, healthmyths is a binary thinker and low information voter. No wonder we keep losing to the Dems.
 
In fact... why do "liberals" SHUN the label "Liberals"???
Ever hear Obama say "I'm a Liberal"????
Why are they so afraid?

Liberals, of which I am one, is a lable I'm proud of.

Obama, however, is not a Liberal. Thus it would be misplaced.

Wow.. only 23 words and YOU STILL can't even spell EVEN with the little red dotted line "label"... NOT lable !

See if YOU can't even spell simple words like "label" and even then YOU ignored the little red dotted line... "..............." how can you be believed?
I mean it IS MY perception you are a slob.
Slobs to me are therefore careless and consequently their opinions are generally based on little thought and definitely few FACTS!

Your carelessness and sloppiness totally belies whatever stupid connotation your "signature" "WHEW?" in binary is suppose to represent!

To me you are in binary (if you can figure it out)...

01111001011011110111010100100000011000010111001001100101001000000110000100100000011000110110000101110010011001010110110001100101011100110111001100100000011000010110111001100100001000000111001101110100011101010111000001101001011001000010000001110011011011000110111101100010

Will you lay off the red dotted line? That only works in a browser with spell check and I don't use spell check. I try to preview my posts, but sometimes my eyes get tired and I make mistakes like everybody else. There are advantages of correcting your own spelling mistakes that you don't get with spell check. It teaches you to spot errors when you read. It forces a preview and sometimes it's good to edit what is said.

I've read plenty of online articles with mistakes, so why make a big deal out of it?

Finally, it doesn't bother me if someone disagrees with the way I see an issue and the fact is, I prefer forums where the majority of people don't share my point of view. I don't need a cheerleader.
 

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