Why Liberals just don’t get it and never will

[ABikerSailor]

Hey stupid again I'm talking liberal idea born completely in the classroom. The real world has said communism and socialism does not work but liberals don't listen to that and instead return the academia version of communism and socialism which says it will work.

So, it's only liberal ideas that don't work? What about conservative academia ideas? Do they work better or more often than "liberal" ones?

Got news for you retard, it's the ideas that are born in the classroom that ends up becoming theory and after a while, it gets proven as fact.

Are you picking on just one idea, or all of them?

Of course in the post I'm only discussing one idea. However, there are plenty of other ideas that have failed but instead of moving on and trying to find new ideas they just keep trying the same ideas and lying about the results previously or making excuses about why they did not work.

Okay then Slimy Dumb Ass, since you have seen where these ideas are being implemented RIGHT NOW in this country, you should have no problems providing links.

Put up or shut up.

 

[Conservative]

Your telling me schools built computers?

University of Pennsylvania, to be exact.

You can thank those academics.

Wow the University of Pennsylvania invented computers. Was it Al Gore?

No. Al Gore invented the Internet.

 

[miami_thomas]

That would depend on the ideas involved.

Public investment in infrastructures has worked well in most cases. The Interstate Highway System was started under a Republican administration, but the idea behind it is consistent with socializing public amenities -- a liberal concept.

If you're referring to Communism, that is something that only works in the class room, but most liberals aren't Communists.

Socialism is distinctly different from Communism, because it doesn't require that the state control everything. Most socialism supported by the left involves socializing public amenities while letting the market handle everything else. That has worked for the most part.

In the end it becomes the government running everything. The balance between left and right will always be there but we are getting way to far left. We need to move way back to the right in order to get things corrected. Socialism is simply the evolution to government control and communism is the revolution to government control.

 

[uscitizen]

That would depend on the ideas involved.

Public investment in infrastructures has worked well in most cases. The Interstate Highway System was started under a Republican administration, but the idea behind it is consistent with socializing public amenities -- a liberal concept.

If you're referring to Communism, that is something that only works in the class room, but most liberals aren't Communists.

Socialism is distinctly different from Communism, because it doesn't require that the state control everything. Most socialism supported by the left involves socializing public amenities while letting the market handle everything else. That has worked for the most part.

In the end it becomes the government running everything. The balance between left and right will always be there but we are getting way to far left. We need to move way back to the right in order to get things corrected. Socialism is simply the evolution to government control and communism is the revolution to government control.

It becomes corporations running everything thru their control of the govt.

 

[miami_thomas]

Like tax cuts for the rich creating jobs?

Yes like taxing the rich creates jobs. Taxing the riched worked out real well for Detroit and has been working out real well for California and New York. But just ignore those real world examples we will go back to the academia example that says it will work out here. Nothing to see here just keep moving along.

 

[BlindBoo]

Now I get it. Kinda like the academia types in the 16th centrury were all about freedom and liberty when in the real world we had the institution of slavery to deal with.

What we have here is corporate socialism. Private profits and socialized losses.

btw we already have in a socialist/republic state in America. Have been for a century or so now....

Freedom was born in the US not taught and slowly tried to progress to freedom because the academia world had figured everything out and we slowly put it in place. America was born by our founding fathers wanting to create a free nation.

Yes the corporations run everyone. They are evil and make people by apple computers, large flat screen televisions, and fancy cars. Those evil corporations are running everything in secret. Truth is the people have all the power in the US because they have more votes. The corporations may have money that they line the pockets of the politicians but if they ran everything why would they have any tax at all? You would thing if they ran things they would have zero tax? What about the green energy movement attacking big oil which has a huge amount of money. How can that be they run everything and still be stopped from drilling? They have the money and corrupt the politicians so they don’t stop oil companies. You can say lies over and over again but that does not make it true. Corporations are run by stock holders they will screw someone for a profit sure but they are not the evil empire everyone tries to make them out to be.

We have socialist policies but they are killing this nation. Ever since we have started social programs this nation has been living in a deficit going further and further into debt. We simply do not have the money to keep operating as we have been. And increasing the tax on the rich is not the solution that will just slow down the private economy and revenues will still keep going down.

You should learn about John Locke.

Oil companies are drilling now more than ever, regardless of the propaganda you so obviously believe. Corporations are not run by stockholders. They are run by the Board of Directors.

An increase of 3% on the most wealthy will no more drain them or keep them from producing jobs than reducing their taxes 10+years ago gave them incentives to create new jobs.

 

[miami_thomas]

Okay then Slimy Dumb Ass, since you have seen where these ideas are being implemented RIGHT NOW in this country, you should have no problems providing links.

Put up or shut up.

Really? Really?

 

[BlindBoo]

University of Pennsylvania, to be exact.

You can thank those academics.

Wow the University of Pennsylvania invented computers. Was it Al Gore?

No. Al Gore invented the Internet.

I do love it when some pseudo-con cracks open that lie again. Al never said he invented the Internet unless of course you have some proof to offer......

 

[miami_thomas]

It becomes corporations running everything thru their control of the govt.

I'm pretty sure in a representative republic in which we live it is the people that run the government. We decide who is in office and we greatly out number the corporations so we will always be the ones to decide.

Can you point to a situation where corporation are running the government outside of unions running the democrats?

 

[uscitizen]

Like tax cuts for the rich creating jobs?

Yes like taxing the rich creates jobs. Taxing the riched worked out real well for Detroit and has been working out real well for California and New York. But just ignore those real world examples we will go back to the academia example that says it will work out here. Nothing to see here just keep moving along.

Detroit and CA are exceptions for other reasons.

NY has a high tax rate so do many other states, why are they not like CA and Detroit if your logic is valid?

 

[Truthmatters]

It becomes corporations running everything thru their control of the govt.

I'm pretty sure in a representative republic in which we live it is the people that run the government. We decide who is in office and we greatly out number the corporations so we will always be the ones to decide.

Can you point to a situation where corporation are running the government outside of unions running the democrats?

Cheneys secret meeting with the energy executives we were NOT ALLOWED to know about.

 

[Utilitarian]

That would depend on the ideas involved.

Public investment in infrastructures has worked well in most cases. The Interstate Highway System was started under a Republican administration, but the idea behind it is consistent with socializing public amenities -- a liberal concept.

If you're referring to Communism, that is something that only works in the class room, but most liberals aren't Communists.

Socialism is distinctly different from Communism, because it doesn't require that the state control everything. Most socialism supported by the left involves socializing public amenities while letting the market handle everything else. That has worked for the most part.

In the end it becomes the government running everything. The balance between left and right will always be there but we are getting way to far left. We need to move way back to the right in order to get things corrected. Socialism is simply the evolution to government control and communism is the revolution to government control.

While it is true that government spending is out of control, our system is actually far less socialized than it was during LBJ's time.

In most economic policies, both parties have actually shifted to the right. Many Democrats of today could have run as Republicans back in the 70s.

 

[syrenn]

It becomes corporations running everything thru their control of the govt.

I'm pretty sure in a representative republic in which we live it is the people that run the government. We decide who is in office and we greatly out number the corporations so we will always be the ones to decide.

Can you point to a situation where corporation are running the government outside of unions running the democrats?

Cheneys secret meeting with the energy executives we were NOT ALLOWED to know about.

 

[Truthmatters]

That would depend on the ideas involved.

Public investment in infrastructures has worked well in most cases. The Interstate Highway System was started under a Republican administration, but the idea behind it is consistent with socializing public amenities -- a liberal concept.

If you're referring to Communism, that is something that only works in the class room, but most liberals aren't Communists.

Socialism is distinctly different from Communism, because it doesn't require that the state control everything. Most socialism supported by the left involves socializing public amenities while letting the market handle everything else. That has worked for the most part.

In the end it becomes the government running everything. The balance between left and right will always be there but we are getting way to far left. We need to move way back to the right in order to get things corrected. Socialism is simply the evolution to government control and communism is the revolution to government control.

Tell us about one of these far left ideas that you see as too far?

 

[Utilitarian]

It becomes corporations running everything thru their control of the govt.

I'm pretty sure in a representative republic in which we live it is the people that run the government. We decide who is in office and we greatly out number the corporations so we will always be the ones to decide.

Can you point to a situation where corporation are running the government outside of unions running the democrats?

Lobbyism does dictate a lot of U.S. policy.

Think tanks are more likely to write laws now than the people we elect.

 

[8537]

Talk about academentia vs reality. The MBA and economic types being educated on rules that are no longer valid and then going out into the world...

Apparently, the people doing the hiring disagree. An Economics degree holder has one of (if not the) highest starting salary outside of engineering. MBA grads average about 90K with bonuses in the first year.

But I guess all those companies are hiring people for invalid reasons. It's one great big market failure.

 

[8537]

Your telling me schools built computers?

University of Pennsylvania, to be exact.

You can thank those academics.

Wow the University of Pennsylvania invented computers. Was it Al Gore?

No, Penn didn't invent the computer. Academics at Penn created the first computer.