Why kill JFK?

I did not see that particular special. But since the splatter evidince was brought up and explained, how did they explain the motorcycle cop to the left and rear of the motorcade getting splattered with blood and brain fluid if the shot came from the right rear?

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JFK EXHIBIT F-644

TESTIMONY OF BOBBY W. HARGIS

The testimony of Bobby W. Hargis was taken at 3:20 p.m., on April 8,
1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and
Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Samuel A. Stern, assistant counsel of the
President's Commission.
Mr. STERN. Will you stand, please.
Do you solemnly swear that the evidence :you ,are about to give shall
be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Mr. HARRIS. I do.
Mr. STERN. Would you state for the record your name and residence
address.
Mr. HARGIS. Bobby W. Hargis, 1818 Adelaide, Dallas, Tex.
Mr. STERN. What is your occupation ?
Mr. HARGIS. Police officer.
Mr. STERN. How long have you been a member of the Dallas Police
Department?
Mr. HARGIS. Nine years and about 7 months.
Mr. STERN. And you are now a member of the motorcycle--
Mr. HARGIS. Division.
Mr. STERN. Division?
Mr. HARGIS. Yes.
Mr. STERN. Were you a part of the motorcade on November 22nd?
Mr. HARGIS. Yes; I was.
Mr. STERN. In what position?
Mr. HARGIS. I was at the left-hand side of the Presidential limousine.
Mr. STERN. At what part of the President's car?
Mr. HARRIS. Well..
Mr. STERN. Front, or rear?
Mr. HARGIS. Oh. Rear.
Mr. STERN. Riding next to Mrs. Kennedy ?
Mr. HARGIS. Right.
Mr. STERN. Will you describe what occurred or what you observed as the
limousine turned into Elm Street?
Mr. HARGIS. Well, at the time that the limousine turned left on Elm,
I was staying pretty well right up with the ear. Sometimes on Elm we get right
up next to it on account of the crowd, but the crowd was out down here at the
triple underpass, so, I was next to Mrs. Kennedy when I heard the first shot,
and at that time the President bent over, and Governor Connally turned around.
He was sitting directly in front of him, and a real shocked and surprised
expression on his face.
Mr. STERN. On Governor Connally's?
Mr. HARGIS. Yes; that is why I thought Governor Connally had been shot
first, but it looked like the President was bending over to hear what he had to
say, and I thought to myself then that Governor Connally, the Governor had been
hit, and then as the President raised back up like that (indicating) the shot
that killed him hit him. I don't know whether it was the second or the third
shot. Everything happened so fast.
Mr. STERN. But, you cannot now recall more than two shots?
Mr. HARGIS. That is all that I can recall remembering. Of course,
everything was moving so fast at the time that there could have been 30 more
shots that I probably never would have noticed them.
Mr. STERN. Did something happen to you, personally in connection with
the shot you have Just described?
Mr. HARGIS. You mean about the blood hitting---
Mr. STERN. Yes.



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JFK EXHIBIT F-644 cont.

Mr. HARGIS. Yes; when President Kennedy straightened back up in the car
the bullet him in the head, the one that killed him and it seemed like his head
exploded, and I was splattered with blood and brain, and kind of bloody water,
It wasn't really blood. And at that time the Presidential car slowed down. I
heard somebody say, "Get going," or "get going,"
Mr. STERN. Someone inside--
Mr. HARGIS. I don't know whether it was the Secret Service car, and I
remembered seeing Officer Chaney. Chaney put his motor in first gear and
accelerated up to the front to tell them to get everything out of the way, that
he was coming through, and that is when the Presidential limousine shot off, and
I stopped and got off my motorcycle and ran to the right-hand side of the
street, behind the light pole.
Mr. STERN. Just a minute. Do you recall your impression at the time
regarding the source of the shots?
Mr. HARGIS. Well, at the time it sounded like the shots were right next
to me. There wasn't any way in the world I could ten where they were coming
from, but at the time there was something in my head that said that they
probably could have been coming from the railroad overpass, because I thought
since I had got splattered, with blood--I was Just a little back and left
of--Just a little bit back and left of Mrs. Kennedy, but I didn't know. I had a
feeling that it might have been from the Texas Book Depository, and these two
places was the primary place that could have been shot from.

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/Marsh/HSCA/HARGIS.TXT

It was not in a fucking vaccum... about 25 MHP of total wind that day.. hence why matter even ended up on the windshield

And quit with the whole debunked "back and to the left" Oliver Stone crapola
 
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I am posting this here instead of the Conspiracy Theory thread, because I am more interested in the why instead of the who. I ask this because I have seen several specials on JFK lately and this is a question that is rarely posed. Was he killed as retribution for Bay of Pigs? Mafia hit? What was th possible motive. Who stood to gain? So I pose this question:

Why kill JFK?

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Watched American Experience tonight, very interesting. Kind of added some perspective!

I still don't know what I believe and now I have suspicions about Johnson and texas politicians. I watched the Johnson special yesterday and it has all made we wonder!
 
It was not in a fucking vaccum... about 25 MHP of total wind that day.. hence why matter even ended up on the windshield

And quit with the whole debunked "back and to the left" Oliver Stone crapola



Wow your scientific analysis leaves me speechless! 25mph wind, means 360 degree splatter. Why even bother with the splatter evidence then? Back and to the left is not Stone, it is the film. I guess they did not answer this question in the special you seen so you do not really have an answer.
 
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Well then how can the goddamn special prove the splatter evidence when the goddamn 25 mph wind blew the goddamn splatter all over, so the godamn splatter evidence cannot be trusted because the situation was not in a goddamn vacum.

Maybe your feeble brain cannot tell wind direction, and the application to such things in an experiment... but the logical thinking world can

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Your little, feeble brain cannot handle a simple question. As I said, they did not answer the question in the show so you have no answer. It seems to be just another show that starts out with a preconcieved idea then selects only the evidence it wants to achieve the outcome. I will watch it in Dec. It does not seem you did any logical thinking. You just watched the show and are parroting what you were told.
 
Your little, feeble brain cannot handle a simple question. As I said, they did not answer the question in the show so you have no answer. It seems to be just another show that starts out with a preconcieved idea then selects only the evidence it wants to achieve the outcome. I will watch it in Dec. It does not seem you did any logical thinking. You just watched the show and are parroting what you were told.

As stated.. see the facts uncovered on the special... just because you refuse to see it, does not change the science nor the results

but nice try
 
As stated.. see the facts uncovered on the special... just because you refuse to see it, does not change the science nor the results

but nice try

As I stated in my original post. I did not see the special. Yet somehow now I refuse to see.................something I never seen. WOW you are out there. I will admit one mistake, asking you how the testimony I showed fit into the special. Obviously you are oblivious to rational thought.
 
Kinda makes me wonder why Ron Paul wasn't bumped off....I mean....didn't "commit suicide" yet.


They did not have to bump off Paul. He was not a well known national figure. They could control his exposure and creditability by controlling the media. Which they did.
 
They did not have to bump off Paul. He was not a well known national figure. They could control his exposure and creditability by controlling the media. Which they did.

It couldn't have been more apparent than in the debates he was allowed to show up at.
 
The question of 'why' anyone would want to kill John Kennedy should better be reasked as 'Who in power didn't want to kill John Kennedy'? He was a good man and a good President. This country, at that time, was at a height of corruption. Kennedy was rocking the boat in so many ways he had everybody upset.

I've studied the Kennedy assasination and believe I've come to understand who did it and how. The question of 'why' is kind of moot.

Anyway, with no further ado, here's my theory:

Lee Harvey Oswald was an ex-marine. His specialty was as a radar operator and therefore had a strong background in electronics - a very high paying skill at that time. He also had an unusual gift, discovered at the marines language school - he learned to speak Russian as well as a native in almost no time at all.

Naturally the Marines didn't teach Russian for the sake of universal brotherhood - Oswald was sent on a mission to Russia and return (without debreifing or any other questions, despite his extremely high security clearance that would have made it VERY illegal for him to travel to Russia).

Furthermore, Oswald was known to have very liberal, bordering on socialist political views. So he was very unique - an American agent with strong sympathies to the enemy.

There was a Marine named 'Hidel' who served with Oswald and who had an amazing likeness to Oswald.

Jack Ruby was a Mafia connected Dallas strip club owner. He probably had no strong political views. But Ruby was by no means a hit man or soldier for the Mafia.

Lyndon Johnson hated Kennedy for having 'stolen' the nomination for President. Nixon hated Kennedy for having 'Stolen' the election. Dulles, the head of the CIA hated Kennedy for being an Irish Catholic who's family was the premier of American 'Royalty' - a position that the Dulles family yearned for.

The Cuban freedom fighters hated Kennedy because of the Bay of Pigs disaster. They had plenty of trained sharp shooters.

Dulles' Brother-in-law was the commissioner of the Dallas City Police.

So here's how it went down:

Oswald was working for the FBI trying to infiltrate the Dallas Mafia. The Dallas Police were very good friends with the local mafia, so Oswald was used because he was unknown. That's how he met Ruby.

Oswald took a job at as a clerk at a book repository as a cover -despite his knowledge of radar - any job in radar at that time would have openly associated him with federal authorities.

The Dallas police approached Ruby (they also purchased the gun that Ruby used to kill Oswald). Thay told him that a particular Dallas Officier (Tibbet)was causing 'problems' and that they were going to have him killed. Furthermore they told him that Oswald was a federal agent and that, by coincidence, the hitman that would kill the officier (Hidel) looked alot like Oswald. Ruby's job was simply to arrange for Oswald to be in a certain movie theater after the Tibbet killing and to have the theater owner call police saying that Oswald had forced his way into the theater at gun point. (It's not so smart for a presidential assassin to force his way into a theater at gun point and then just sit there is it?)

Ruby had no idea that there was going to be a Presidential assassination.

The day of the assassination, the building manager of the book repositiry was seen by several people carrying a rifle into the building. He showed this rifle off to several people who witnessed that it was not the type of gun used to kill Kennedy - could he have brought a second rifle into the building? I think so.

Oswald was seated in the lunch room on the second floor at the time Kennedy was shot. There is no way he could have made it from the lunch room to the top floor and back in the time that witnesses (including police saw him). The building manager, who would have had the key to the elevator, was just exiting the elevator on the first floor when police met him.

No one witnessed the assassin, but the Dallas police put out a APB for a man fitting Oswald discription several hours after the assassination.

So, Oswald went to his meeting with Ruby at the movie theater. Hidel shot Tibbet and the movie theater manager called police saying that Oswald had forced his way into the theater at gun point.

Police arrested Oswald and charged him with 'jumping the turnstile'. This was the only crime that Oswald was ever officially charged with. They suspected him of having shot Tippet, but had no evidence.

While Oswald was in custody, rumors started saying that Oswald was the Kennedy assassin. Ruby became convinced that if Oswald lived and was questioned, he and the Mafia would be accused of the Kennedy assassination, since he had set Oswald up. So Ruby shot Oswald rather than face the rathe of the Mafia.

The question of who did the actual shooting is only answered by who had the authority to redirect the Presidential motorcade off of the main street and onto the side street next to the repository. There is no logical explaination or destination that accounts for this. But I'm sure that the head of the CIA could arrange that and a few Cuban sharpshooters to get in and out quickly.
 

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