Why ISIS Target Turkey?

[Bobby1250]

 

[Bobby1250]

 

[Bleipriester]

Iran supports the Syrian government already.

But, Iran is not in Syria killing ISIS terrorists. That was my point.

I'm sure Iran could do just as fine a job killing ISIS terrorists in Syria as they are doing in Iraq.

According to reports, there are already thousands of troops deployed, but not official Iranian troops.
The weak Iraqi forces are instructed and guided by Iranian officers. The Syrian army does not need that kind of support.

According to which reports?

By whom?

Read here:
Iran The world will be surprised by what we and the Syrian military leadership are preparing. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Thanks for posting the link for me. I checked it but I didn't see any Arabic medias linked.

When a certain event is claimed by western media I like to compare it with what eastern media says.

Iranian support for Syria is nothing what the western backed terrorists enjoy so when a western media reports about this it is most likely true.

 

[Freeman]

The Turkish planes strikes ISIS bases in Syria.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/world/europe/turkey-isis-syria-airstrikes.html?_r=0

3 000 ISIS infiltrators may enter Turkey plan to attack diplomatic targets report RT News

One of the nice things about mulims is that they hate each other.

If you are not the right kind of muslim, they will kill you. They do this all the time, so it's no surprise.

Not as catholics and protestants did or like pogroms against jews few decades ago.

ISIS are not islamists, they are just good puppets of dictators and occident.

 

[Freeman]

Iran is doing a splendid job killing ISIS in Iraq. I'm sure Iran could do just as fine a job killing ISIS in Syria too.

Iran supports the Syrian government already.

But, Iran is not in Syria killing ISIS terrorists. That was my point.

I'm sure Iran could do just as fine a job killing ISIS terrorists in Syria as they are doing in Iraq.

Simply because ISIS is fabricated by Ass.ad and Iranian services?
ISIS never target Iranian regime in the region.

 

[Bobby1250]

 

[Bleipriester]

Simply because ISIS is fabricated by Ass.ad and Iranian services?

You tell us that USA/Israel made ISIS and you tell us that Syria/Iran made ISIS. What kind of clown are you?

ISIS never target Iranian regime in the region.

Iran is a major enemy of ISIS.

 

[Two Thumbs]

The Turkish planes strikes ISIS bases in Syria.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/world/europe/turkey-isis-syria-airstrikes.html?_r=0

3 000 ISIS infiltrators may enter Turkey plan to attack diplomatic targets report RT News

One of the nice things about mulims is that they hate each other.

If you are not the right kind of muslim, they will kill you. They do this all the time, so it's no surprise.

Not as catholics and protestants did or like pogroms against jews few decades ago.

ISIS are not islamists, they are just good puppets of dictators and occident.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Simply because ISIS is fabricated by Ass.ad and Iranian services?

You tell us that USA/Israel made ISIS and you tell us that Syria/Iran made ISIS. What kind of clown are you?

ISIS never target Iranian regime in the region.

Iran is a major enemy of ISIS.

 

[Bobby1250]

 

[Freeman]

It is possible with coordination with Ass.ad regime since principal terrorists were liberated from regime jail 3 years ago.

Americans has already called opposition to not target Ass.ad militias.

 

[Bobby1250]

 

[Freeman]

Nice zionazis figures, anyway when ISIS spare Syrian regime, Iran and "Israel" and target the other coutries it summarizes the all story.
Ex-IDF chief Israel prefers that Assad stay in power The Times of Israel

 

[Bleipriester]

Simply because ISIS is fabricated by Ass.ad and Iranian services?

You tell us that USA/Israel made ISIS and you tell us that Syria/Iran made ISIS. What kind of clown are you?

ISIS never target Iranian regime in the region.

Iran is a major enemy of ISIS.

Any point here?

 

[Bobby1250]

 

[Supreme Allied Condista]

TAKE RAQQA BATTLEPLAN

TAKE RAQQA BATTLEPLAN by Supreme Allied Condista on US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

This is my political and military plan to put the squeeze on the so-called "Islamic State" / ISIS / ISIL / Daesh operational capital at Raqqa, Syria.

1) The Turkish army invades Syria with an armoured column west and south of the Euphrates and attacks Raqqa from the south, also blocking the east and west routes to Raqqa.

2) The Euphrates Volcano - a joint operations room for the Royava Kurds YPG / YPJ and the Free Syrian Army - cut off Raqqa to the north, bottling ISIS fighters up in Raqqa or in other bolt holes to the east and north of the Euphrates.

Euphrates Volcano - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

3) The Turks and / or the Euphrates Volcano YPG / YPJ / FSA take Raqqa, clearing it street to street, mopping up ISIS forces.

I appreciate that the Turks have not yet committed to invading Syria with their army and neither have the Euphrates Volcano, YPG / FSA asked for such Turkish intervention.

So I think it is really going to take NATO to suggest such a collaboration, because neither side would wish to admit needing the other to defeat ISIS, I expect.

Diplomacy is not my strong suit but if these forces can be persuaded diplomatically to work together then liberating Raqqa from ISIS should be straight-forward enough, militarily speaking.

Now a word or two about the politics.

A solution for SYRIA too

We should support the rights of Sunni-majority areas to establish a Sunni-majority state, partitioned from Iraq and / or Syria but modelled not after Saudi Arabia's oppressive religious police Sunni state but rather as a secular, democratic state (approximated imperfectly by Turkey with its majority Sunni population), which could be part of a stable solution, acceptable to world powers.

However, to get there, we must first defeat ISIS and al-Qaeda and put irresistible pressure on Arab states to support a peace solution for Iraq and Syria, perhaps with Arab state regular armies invading Syria and Iraq to enforce a peace settlement along partition lines agreed at the United Nations with NATO acting as a military police force, directing Arab armies here and there.

Such a peace would be workable and stable, rather than as now with the Arab states' proxy terrorists failing to enforce a non-agreed imposed terrorist state.

NATO

The NATO military alliance met recently at NATO Headquarters in Brussels, to consider a plea from Turkey for support.

TURKS

Well if I was leading NATO, Turkey would be getting some very forceful advice behind the scenes to quit treating the PKK the same as ISIS and encouragement to seek a cease-fire with the PKK and I'd be making that distinction clear publicly as I have already done.

Since NATO statements are only agreed unanimously then it is not surprising that Turkey would not agree to the following quoted statement for publication as "the view of NATO" but there is nothing to stop the NATO Secretary General making this statement in a personal leadership capacity, except for the fact that the Secretary General is not me, but someone else.

"Turkey has been quite wrong to try to paint ISIS and the PKK with the same brush, equally as "terrorists", when the PKK have legitimate concerns about protecting Kurds from ISIS, although the PKK's attack on Turkish police officers which broke the cease-fire was ill-advised and it is unsurprising that Turkey would label such attacks as "terrorists" and a unilateral ending of the cease-fire by the PKK. Ending the cease-fire was a bad move by the PKK because cease-fires are much easier to end than they are to resume.

So Turkey had a cease-fire with the PKK and rightly so but Turkey should never have had a cease-fire with ISIS, if indeed that's what it had, it was quite wrong to have such a cease fire with ISIS.

Also, Turkey should be open minded about resuming a cease-fire with the PKK. Admittedly it takes two sides to make a cease-fire stick but at least a cease-fire should be possible with the PKK in the way it should not be possible with ISIS.

Otherwise, the suspicion will be that the Turkish state is being manipulated by those fascists who are not sincere about fighting ISIS but instead are using ISIS attacks as a pretext, conflating ISIS with anyone Kurdish or Turkish leftist, as a smokescreen for a far wider and undemocratic crackdown."​

KURDS

We are not doing the Kurds any favours by turning a blind eye to the PKK blunder providing Erdogan and the Turkish secret security fascists with the pretext for a crackdown they were likely trying to provoke - the July 22 killing by the PKK of 2 Turkish police officers.

Whatever the Kurds' or PKK's suspicions or personal convictions about Erdogan etc secretly sponsoring ISIS, it is not astute for the PKK to lash out at Turkish officers indiscriminately, because the case "Erdogan-backs-ISIS" has not been proven to NATO, to the US and allies or to the people of Turkey.

Least of all is that case made when Turkey provides the US with the use of airbases with which to attack ISIS.

Erdogan has played much too clever a game and has outwitted the PKK. They have fallen into his trap.

In future, Kurds should impress on the PKK the international political need to act with more political wisdom as prosecutors, proving their case of nefarious machinations of the secret security state of Turkey and its sponsorship of ISIS, while treating with respect those Turks, Americans, Europeans and others whom Erdogan's secret plots have deceived.


Supreme Allied Condista by Supreme Allied Condista on US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Bleipriester]

And Turkey does not need to ask Syria if they may intervene in Syria?

 

[Supreme Allied Condista]

And Turkey does not need to ask Syria if they may intervene in Syria?

I would advise Turkey to ask the people of Syria, including the

• Refugees of the Syrian Civil War

and the representatives of the people of northern Syria where Raqqa is situated such as the political authorities of the contributing forces of the Euphrates Volcano joint operations room, namely

• the Democratic Union Party of Syria (PYD) for the YPG / YPJ

and

• Syrian National Coalition for the Free Syrian Army

Yes Turkey should ask those Syrians, ask them if they would like to get Raqqa back from ISIS or if Turkey should let ISIS keep Raqqa. Yes ask them.

 

[Bleipriester]

And Turkey does not need to ask Syria if they may intervene in Syria?

I would advise Turkey to ask the people of Syria, including the

• Refugees of the Syrian Civil War

and the representatives of the people of northern Syria where Raqqa is situated such as the political authorities of the contributing forces of the Euphrates Volcano joint operations room, namely

• the Democratic Union Party of Syria (PYD) for the YPG / YPJ

and

• Syrian National Coalition for the Free Syrian Army

Yes Turkey should ask those Syrians, ask them if they would like to get Raqqa back from ISIS or if Turkey should let ISIS keep Raqqa. Yes ask them.

What advantage could the Syrians take from turning Raqqa from ISIS into the hands of Al-Qaeda/FSA by Turkey or any other entity?
And why would you not ask the legitimate Syrian government?

 

[Freeman]

PKK and ISIS terrorists are trained and backed by Ass.ad regime to target Turkey.