Why is your health

Discussion in 'Healthcare/Insurance/Govt Healthcare' started by Avatar4321, Feb 27, 2010.

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    someone else's responsibility?
     
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    It isn't. BUT:

    OK. Say you are my brother. He is a sous chef and a part-time pastry chef (wedding cakes on the side for extra money) and he makes an average of $10 an hour (a GENEROUS going rate for that position). If you get sick and your employer doesn't give you sick days, you may lose your job. If you get really sick for too many days, you WILL lose your job AND your place to live. So, you're saying my brother doesn't deserve to be able to get medical care if he needs it? He can't afford to pay for private insurance on his salary. He is now "working his way up" and he certainly can't afford private insurance on his own (and neither could I and I make 4x what he makes) and no restaurants offer medical benefits to anyone but management, which is standard procedure. You're saying that he doesn't deserve to be able to buy into a low cost, non-profit public option like a co-op? Otherwise, he CANNOT afford anything but emergency care.
     
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    Please, brother, tell me where these low cost non-profit public option policies are available.
     
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    That's EXACTLY what we're trying to get access to, brother.
     
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    Why is it the Governments responsibility to provide you low cost health Insurance?
     
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    All insurance makes one's health everyone's responsibility, at least in that actuary base.

    Indeed insurance is betting against yourself, you are saying you will get sick and everyone else will not, so you bet you will not have to pay up on them and they will on you.

    Now the larger the actuary base the more efficient this bet is.

    What is the largest possible actuary base?

    I am not a socialist but just sayen.
     
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    I am not a moral relativist.
    I think the fact the richest nation on earth does not provide healthcare for all its citizens immoral.
    I do not accept the argument that in any society class, privilege, and wealth are the only determinants of good healthcare.
    I think that access to good healthcare is a good and a foundation for any arguments on individual freedom.
    How can any American argue that something that hurts children is just the way it is and the alternate too costly.
    How can an America without healthcare claim to be a religious, caring, freedom loving nation.


    "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." John Kenneth Galbraith
     
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    Why is protecting your private property, somebody else's business?
     
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    It isn't, BUZZ try again. BUT if you are referring to the police, we the people LOCALLY, created them and pay for them LOCALLY. State and Federal Law Enforcement are not protectors of any sort they are reactionary in response to BROKEN laws. And the Federal Government is VERY limited on what it can be the first responder to in regards law enforcement.
     
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    You make an excellent point. THAT is why passing the current health care reform bill is important. No one should have to pay for freeloaders....

    Uninsured Americans Driving Up Cost Of Health Care

    May 28, 2009 by admin

    Boston (HealthKnowItAll) - All is not right with the American health care system, as it appears that because the number of uninsured Americans is so high that insured people are paying more to compensate them.

    There are roughly 47 million Americans living without any form of health care coverage, a fact that is putting the country in serious jeperdy of going into serious financial burden over the years to come.

    According to the findings of a report released by Families USA, the average American family is paying an additional $1,700 dollars a year in premiums to make up for the millions who go without.
     

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