Why is US Gov't running foreign child prostitution stings?

[Rikurzhen]

You know why the Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement can't protect the US border? Because they're LEADING sting operations for foreign governments. How the hell is that in the remit of ICE?

A top Colombian beauty queen was arrested this past weekend for her alleged role in a child prostitution ring aimed at foreign sex tourists.

The United States Immigration and Customs (ICE) led a joint operation, Cristal II, in cooperation with the Colombia’s Navy and Coast Guard to arrest 22-year old Kelly Johana Suárez Martínez Moyam and four others during a party attended by 25 minors, among others, on Colombia’s Caribbean Islas de Rosario islands. An additional three were arrested in Armenia and four in Medellín for their involvement, according to ICE. . . .

Last night, October 14th, Kelly Johana appeared in court with the four of the accused: Olava Martínez, Juan Manuel Oquendo Sierra, Eduardo Ortega Issa and Horacio Revollo Pacheco. The five are being charged for “los delitos de inducción a la prostitución agravado en menor de 14 años y proxenetismo con menor de edad” or “human trafficking of minors, pimping and pandering,” according to the ICE.
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First we have the National Institutes of Health studying why lesbians are often so grotesquely fat, then the Centers for Disease Control surveys what bus riders think of HIV videos, and now ICE agents are working sting operations for foreign governments.

What is so damn awful about doing the job the agency is established to perform?

 

[Mr. H.]

Well, you get some things right and you get some other things not so right.

Quit worrying and go to bed.

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

I'm with Mr. H. on this one. I wish these tiny government intrigues were our most pressing current issues.

 

[LiberalMedia]

Why can't white supremacist manpigs get anything right?

"Los delitos de inducción a la prostitución agravado en menor de 14 años y proxenetismo con menor de edad" is better translated as "the crimes of aggravated promotion of prostitution of a minor under the age of 14 and underage pimping."

Or, in plain language, they were charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, sex trafficking, sexual exploitation of a minor, and prostitution of a minor. It would appear that all of the girls in question were under the age of 14. This is not completely surprising, given the relatively low age of consent in Central and South American countries.

Just more manpiggery in action. All of them need a goodwill foreign intervention from the United States to properly liberate them from the patriarchy.

 

[MisterBeale]

If it's illegal for citizens to do it, and it turns a profit, chances are, some bureaucrat or government foot soldier some where is involved in it.

 

[MisterBeale]

Why can't white supremacist manpigs get anything right?

"Los delitos de inducción a la prostitución agravado en menor de 14 años y proxenetismo con menor de edad" is better translated as "the crimes of aggravated promotion of prostitution of a minor under the age of 14 and underage pimping."

Or, in plain language, they were charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, sex trafficking, sexual exploitation of a minor, and prostitution of a minor. It would appear that all of the girls in question were under the age of 14. This is not completely surprising, given the relatively low age of consent in Central and South American countries.

Just more manpiggery in action. All of them need a goodwill foreign intervention from the United States to properly liberate them from the patriarchy.

 

[LiberalMedia]

Why can't white supremacist manpigs get anything right?

"Los delitos de inducción a la prostitución agravado en menor de 14 años y proxenetismo con menor de edad" is better translated as "the crimes of aggravated promotion of prostitution of a minor under the age of 14 and underage pimping."

Or, in plain language, they were charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, sex trafficking, sexual exploitation of a minor, and prostitution of a minor. It would appear that all of the girls in question were under the age of 14. This is not completely surprising, given the relatively low age of consent in Central and South American countries.

Just more manpiggery in action. All of them need a goodwill foreign intervention from the United States to properly liberate them from the patriarchy.

I...love it.

Please, post more of the womyn that needs to be our next Prysydynt.

 

[Mr. H.]

Why can't white supremacist manpigs get anything right?

"Los delitos de inducción a la prostitución agravado en menor de 14 años y proxenetismo con menor de edad" is better translated as "the crimes of aggravated promotion of prostitution of a minor under the age of 14 and underage pimping."

Or, in plain language, they were charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, sex trafficking, sexual exploitation of a minor, and prostitution of a minor. It would appear that all of the girls in question were under the age of 14. This is not completely surprising, given the relatively low age of consent in Central and South American countries.

Just more manpiggery in action. All of them need a goodwill foreign intervention from the United States to properly liberate them from the patriarchy.

Why are your y's suddenly shy?

 

[Syriusly]

You know why the Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement can't protect the US border? Because they're LEADING sting operations for foreign governments. How the hell is that in the remit of ICE?

A top Colombian beauty queen was arrested this past weekend for her alleged role in a child prostitution ring aimed at foreign sex tourists.

The United States Immigration and Customs (ICE) led a joint operation, Cristal II, in cooperation with the Colombia’s Navy and Coast Guard to arrest 22-year old Kelly Johana Suárez Martínez Moyam and four others during a party attended by 25 minors, among others, on Colombia’s Caribbean Islas de Rosario islands. An additional three were arrested in Armenia and four in Medellín for their involvement, according to ICE. . . .

Last night, October 14th, Kelly Johana appeared in court with the four of the accused: Olava Martínez, Juan Manuel Oquendo Sierra, Eduardo Ortega Issa and Horacio Revollo Pacheco. The five are being charged for “los delitos de inducción a la prostitución agravado en menor de 14 años y proxenetismo con menor de edad” or “human trafficking of minors, pimping and pandering,” according to the ICE.
​

First we have the National Institutes of Health studying why lesbians are often so grotesquely fat, then the Centers for Disease Control surveys what bus riders think of HIV videos, and now ICE agents are working sting operations for foreign governments.

What is so damn awful about doing the job the agency is established to perform?

ICE has been involved in preventing human trafficking- and sex tourism for years

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/psc/docs/natstrategyreport.pdf

Child Sex Tourism
The Child Sex Tourism (CST) program originated in 1997 and became a major
initiative after the passage of the 2003 Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to
end the Exploitation of Children Today Act, or PROTECT Act. Child sex
tourism is a pervasive international problem. These predators often have a long
history of abusing children, both in the United States and abroad. The CES
investigates U.S. citizens and/or lawful permanent residents who are arrested in,
or traveled to, a foreign country for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with
children. The CES is responsible for and the coordinating point for ICE’s
National Child Sex Tourism Strategy.

 

[Rikurzhen]

The Child Sex Tourism (CST) program originated in 1997 and became a major
initiative after the passage of the 2003 Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to
end the Exploitation of Children Today Act, or PROTECT Act. Child sex
tourism is a pervasive international problem. These predators often have a long
history of abusing children, both in the United States and abroad. The CES
investigates U.S. citizens and/or lawful permanent residents who are arrested in,
or traveled to, a foreign country for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with
children. The CES is responsible for and the coordinating point for ICE’s
National Child Sex Tourism Strategy.

With the bolded text in mind, please re-read the OP.

 

[Syriusly]

The Child Sex Tourism (CST) program originated in 1997 and became a major
initiative after the passage of the 2003 Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to
end the Exploitation of Children Today Act, or PROTECT Act. Child sex
tourism is a pervasive international problem. These predators often have a long
history of abusing children, both in the United States and abroad. The CES
investigates U.S. citizens and/or lawful permanent residents who are arrested in,
or traveled to, a foreign country for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with
children. The CES is responsible for and the coordinating point for ICE’s
National Child Sex Tourism Strategy.

With the bolded text in mind, please re-read the OP.

I read the OP.

Do you have anything to show that ICE was not participating as part of its mission to investigate U.S. Citizens and/or lawful permanent residents travelling to foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children?

 

[Rikurzhen]

The Child Sex Tourism (CST) program originated in 1997 and became a major
initiative after the passage of the 2003 Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to
end the Exploitation of Children Today Act, or PROTECT Act. Child sex
tourism is a pervasive international problem. These predators often have a long
history of abusing children, both in the United States and abroad. The CES
investigates U.S. citizens and/or lawful permanent residents who are arrested in,
or traveled to, a foreign country for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with
children. The CES is responsible for and the coordinating point for ICE’s
National Child Sex Tourism Strategy.

With the bolded text in mind, please re-read the OP.

I read the OP.

Do you have anything to show that ICE was not participating as part of its mission to investigate U.S. Citizens and/or lawful permanent residents travelling to foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children?

Yeah, the article! All the arrested were Colombian nationals. There was no mention of American tourists being investigated nor arrested. I see no American nexus, the article describes an internal Colombian police matter.

 

[Synthaholic]

You know why the Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement can't protect the US border? Because they're LEADING sting operations for foreign governments. How the hell is that in the remit of ICE?

A top Colombian beauty queen was arrested this past weekend for her alleged role in a child prostitution ring aimed at foreign sex tourists.

The United States Immigration and Customs (ICE) led a joint operation, Cristal II, in cooperation with the Colombia’s Navy and Coast Guard to arrest 22-year old Kelly Johana Suárez Martínez Moyam and four others during a party attended by 25 minors, among others, on Colombia’s Caribbean Islas de Rosario islands. An additional three were arrested in Armenia and four in Medellín for their involvement, according to ICE. . . .

Last night, October 14th, Kelly Johana appeared in court with the four of the accused: Olava Martínez, Juan Manuel Oquendo Sierra, Eduardo Ortega Issa and Horacio Revollo Pacheco. The five are being charged for “los delitos de inducción a la prostitución agravado en menor de 14 años y proxenetismo con menor de edad” or “human trafficking of minors, pimping and pandering,” according to the ICE.
​

First we have the National Institutes of Health studying why lesbians are often so grotesquely fat, then the Centers for Disease Control surveys what bus riders think of HIV videos, and now ICE agents are working sting operations for foreign governments.

What is so damn awful about doing the job the agency is established to perform?

What's your problem with it, again?

 

[Rikurzhen]

You know why the Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement can't protect the US border? Because they're LEADING sting operations for foreign governments. How the hell is that in the remit of ICE?

A top Colombian beauty queen was arrested this past weekend for her alleged role in a child prostitution ring aimed at foreign sex tourists.

The United States Immigration and Customs (ICE) led a joint operation, Cristal II, in cooperation with the Colombia’s Navy and Coast Guard to arrest 22-year old Kelly Johana Suárez Martínez Moyam and four others during a party attended by 25 minors, among others, on Colombia’s Caribbean Islas de Rosario islands. An additional three were arrested in Armenia and four in Medellín for their involvement, according to ICE. . . .

Last night, October 14th, Kelly Johana appeared in court with the four of the accused: Olava Martínez, Juan Manuel Oquendo Sierra, Eduardo Ortega Issa and Horacio Revollo Pacheco. The five are being charged for “los delitos de inducción a la prostitución agravado en menor de 14 años y proxenetismo con menor de edad” or “human trafficking of minors, pimping and pandering,” according to the ICE.
​

First we have the National Institutes of Health studying why lesbians are often so grotesquely fat, then the Centers for Disease Control surveys what bus riders think of HIV videos, and now ICE agents are working sting operations for foreign governments.

What is so damn awful about doing the job the agency is established to perform?

What's your problem with it, again?

Resources are finite. ICE has a mission within America. Do the job that they're supposed to do and stop doing jobs that are not their job. Busting up Colombian prostitution rings is a job for Colombian police and not a mission where ICE has to be the lead agency.

 

[Syriusly]

The Child Sex Tourism (CST) program originated in 1997 and became a major
initiative after the passage of the 2003 Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to
end the Exploitation of Children Today Act, or PROTECT Act. Child sex
tourism is a pervasive international problem. These predators often have a long
history of abusing children, both in the United States and abroad. The CES
investigates U.S. citizens and/or lawful permanent residents who are arrested in,
or traveled to, a foreign country for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with
children. The CES is responsible for and the coordinating point for ICE’s
National Child Sex Tourism Strategy.

With the bolded text in mind, please re-read the OP.

I read the OP.

Do you have anything to show that ICE was not participating as part of its mission to investigate U.S. Citizens and/or lawful permanent residents travelling to foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children?

Yeah, the article! All the arrested were Colombian nationals. There was no mention of American tourists being investigated nor arrested. I see no American nexus, the article describes an internal Colombian police matter.

So you don't have anything to show that ICE was not participating as part of its mission to investigate U.S. Citizens and/or lawful permanent residents travelling to foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children.

No mention doesn't mean that there was no ICE investigation which led them to participate in this sting.

 

[Rikurzhen]

So you don't have anything to show that ICE was not participating as part of its mission to investigate U.S. Citizens and/or lawful permanent residents travelling to foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children.

No mention doesn't mean that there was no ICE investigation which led them to participate in this sting.

If you're walking down the street and you see a hooded man strike a woman to the ground, grab her purse and run away, don't assume that you've witnessed a mugging. They could be actors shooting a scene for a film, they could be anti-mugging trainers practicing what they'll be teaching in class, they could be a kinky couple engaging in weird foreplay in preparation for a later rendezvous. Never judge on the facts that are present, always presume that relevant facts are not present and that your interpretation of events in life is dependent on these hidden facts.

 

[nodoginnafight]

He got the prep vote eh? Who got the stoners & jocks?

Gotta expand the base. Rand Paul can do that. No one else can.

So you don't have anything to show that ICE was not participating as part of its mission to investigate U.S. Citizens and/or lawful permanent residents travelling to foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children.

No mention doesn't mean that there was no ICE investigation which led them to participate in this sting.

If you're walking down the street and you see a hooded man strike a woman to the ground, grab her purse and run away, don't assume that you've witnessed a mugging. They could be actors shooting a scene for a film, they could be anti-mugging trainers practicing what they'll be teaching in class, they could be a kinky couple engaging in weird foreplay in preparation for a later rendezvous. Never judge on the facts that are present, always presume that relevant facts are not present and that your interpretation of events in life is dependent on these hidden facts.

Better get those facts cleared up before to try to prosecute someone ....

 

[Syriusly]

So you don't have anything to show that ICE was not participating as part of its mission to investigate U.S. Citizens and/or lawful permanent residents travelling to foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children.

No mention doesn't mean that there was no ICE investigation which led them to participate in this sting.

If you're walking down the street and you see a hooded man strike a woman to the ground, grab her purse and run away, don't assume that you've witnessed a mugging. They could be actors shooting a scene for a film, they could be anti-mugging trainers practicing what they'll be teaching in class, they could be a kinky couple engaging in weird foreplay in preparation for a later rendezvous. Never judge on the facts that are present, always presume that relevant facts are not present and that your interpretation of events in life is dependent on these hidden facts.

Maybe thats what you do.

Not me.

What I do is look at the mission of ICE- which includes tracking down American child molesters and American child sex tourists, and then I see ICE involved in a child sex crimes sting overseas- and includes no details as to why ICE was involved- and I assume that ICE was there as part of its mission, and that ICE may not tell us everything about its efforts to track child molesters.

You presume that the news article contains all of the facts and that ICE must not be there as part of its stated mission.

 

[Rikurzhen]

So you don't have anything to show that ICE was not participating as part of its mission to investigate U.S. Citizens and/or lawful permanent residents travelling to foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children.

No mention doesn't mean that there was no ICE investigation which led them to participate in this sting.

If you're walking down the street and you see a hooded man strike a woman to the ground, grab her purse and run away, don't assume that you've witnessed a mugging. They could be actors shooting a scene for a film, they could be anti-mugging trainers practicing what they'll be teaching in class, they could be a kinky couple engaging in weird foreplay in preparation for a later rendezvous. Never judge on the facts that are present, always presume that relevant facts are not present and that your interpretation of events in life is dependent on these hidden facts.

Maybe thats what you do.

Not me.

What I do is look at the mission of ICE- which includes tracking down American child molesters and American child sex tourists, and then I see ICE involved in a child sex crimes sting overseas- and includes no details as to why ICE was involved- and I assume that ICE was there as part of its mission, and that ICE may not tell us everything about its efforts to track child molesters.

You presume that the news article contains all of the facts and that ICE must not be there as part of its stated mission.

I see facts like CDC expanding it's mission to study the effectiveness of advertising, of the National Institutes of Health studying why lesbians are so fat, I see NASA declaring that its primary mission is to make Muslims feel good about themselves, I see BATF going into the gunrunning business, I see bureaucratic mission creep everywhere in government, so I don't find it surprising to see ICE prowling the world looking to bust up sex rings.

 

[Syriusly]

So you don't have anything to show that ICE was not participating as part of its mission to investigate U.S. Citizens and/or lawful permanent residents travelling to foreign countries for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts with children.

No mention doesn't mean that there was no ICE investigation which led them to participate in this sting.

If you're walking down the street and you see a hooded man strike a woman to the ground, grab her purse and run away, don't assume that you've witnessed a mugging. They could be actors shooting a scene for a film, they could be anti-mugging trainers practicing what they'll be teaching in class, they could be a kinky couple engaging in weird foreplay in preparation for a later rendezvous. Never judge on the facts that are present, always presume that relevant facts are not present and that your interpretation of events in life is dependent on these hidden facts.

Maybe thats what you do.

Not me.

What I do is look at the mission of ICE- which includes tracking down American child molesters and American child sex tourists, and then I see ICE involved in a child sex crimes sting overseas- and includes no details as to why ICE was involved- and I assume that ICE was there as part of its mission, and that ICE may not tell us everything about its efforts to track child molesters.

You presume that the news article contains all of the facts and that ICE must not be there as part of its stated mission.

I see facts like CDC expanding it's mission to study the effectiveness of advertising, of the National Institutes of Health studying why lesbians are so fat, I see NASA declaring that its primary mission is to make Muslims feel good about themselves, I see BATF going into the gunrunning business, I see bureaucratic mission creep everywhere in government, so I don't find it surprising to see ICE prowling the world looking to bust up sex rings.

So its just anti-government nuttiness that is driving this thread.....

Meanwhile- Columbia is known as a destination for sex tourism...and shockingly enough our Government was aiding the government in Columbia in cracking down on people who prey on children.

I approve of America helping prosecute child sex offenders.

Colombia Dismantles Child Sex Ring Allegedly Tied to Beauty Queen

Authorities in Colombia have dismantled three child prostitution rings -- including one allegedly involving a beauty queen -- highlighting a widespread problem with child sex tourism and the links between the networks involved.

In Medellin, four individuals were arrested when they attempted to offer child prostitutes to undercover US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents posing as sex tourists.

U.S. Pedophiles Nabbed in Cambodia Sex-Tourist Sting Fox News

ICE hopes the arrests, done in conjunction with federal prosecutors in Los Angeles, Cambodian police and two anti-child trafficking organizations, International Justice Mission and the human rights organization Action Pour Les Enfants, will send a message that police are watching. Since 2003, ICE has arrested 70 international sex offenders under the Child Protect Act.

Child Exploitation Investigations Unit ICE

And, with 200 U.S. offices and more than 70 offices overseas, HSI has the ability to follow a case – to rescue a victim or arrest a predator – wherever in the world it may lead.

Collaborating with law enforcement partners around the country and the world, Operation Predator brings together an array of resources to target these child predators. As part of the effort:

• HSI is the U.S. representative to the Interpol working group that locates new child sexual abuse material on the Internet and refers cases to the country that the abuse is believed to be occurring in for further investigation. Also, HSI special agents stationed internationally work with foreign governments, Interpol and others to enhance coordination and cooperation on crimes that cross borders.

California child predator sting nets 275 arrests - The Portland Press Herald Maine Sunday Telegram

LOS ANGELES — A monthlong national effort to capture sex predators led to 275 arrests in Southern California that included a teaching assistant for special needs kids, a retired sheriff’s deputy and an Army soldier, authorities said Thursday.

The effort dubbed “Operation Broken Heart” involved dozens of local, state and federal authorities throughout the month of May who targeted sex offenders, child sex traffickers, pimps, child porn traders and sex tourists traveling abroad.

“The dirty old man stereotype no longer applies,” said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of ICE Homeland Security Investigations, which works on the task force