CDZ Why is the Trump Administration allowing an ongoing invasion of our borders?

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SEE: Separated at the Border From Their Parents: In Six Weeks, 1,995 Children

June 15, 2018

”WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said on Friday that it had separated 1,995 children from parents facing criminal prosecution for unlawfully crossing the border over a six-week period that ended last month, as President Trump sought to shift blame for the widely criticized practice that has become the signature policy of his aggressive immigration agenda.”

The article goes on to say the above mentioned children were separated from 1,940 adults from April 19th to May 31st. This confirms there is an ongoing invasion [1,995 children and 1,940 adults in one and a half months] of our borders and the Trump Administration appears to be allowing this invasion to continue unabated.

Why is President Trump not putting the National Guard on the border with instructions to physically prevent these foreigners from entering our side of the border? Why is the Trump Administration allowing this invasion to continue and then making American Citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of almost 4,000 foreigners who have invaded our borders in just one and a half months?

JWK



There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.

 
SEE: Separated at the Border From Their Parents: In Six Weeks, 1,995 Children

June 15, 2018

”WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said on Friday that it had separated 1,995 children from parents facing criminal prosecution for unlawfully crossing the border over a six-week period that ended last month, as President Trump sought to shift blame for the widely criticized practice that has become the signature policy of his aggressive immigration agenda.”

The article goes on to say the above mentioned children were separated from 1,940 adults from April 19th to May 31st. This confirms there is an ongoing invasion [1,995 children and 1,940 adults in one and a half months] of our borders and the Trump Administration appears to be allowing this invasion to continue unabated.

Why is President Trump not putting the National Guard on the border with instructions to physically prevent these foreigners from entering our side of the border? Why is the Trump Administration allowing this invasion to continue and then making American Citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of almost 4,000 foreigners who have invaded our borders in just one and a half months?

JWK



There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.

Seems to me that the final paragraph describes the Germans, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese, as well as Africans who first came as slaves, to our shores which once proudly was described as a melting pot of humanity.

If the premise in the OP is correct, these migrants did not seek nor did they find employment, which took jobs away from American Citizens. That many did seek and obtain employment, the real criminals are those who employed them.

When we needed labor we had opened borders (see the building of the Transcontinental railroad and the bracero program for examples),

Today's foreign and domestic policies, the product of Trump and his swamp creatures, is illogical, emotional and hateful. It's time to wake up and speak out, and the silence is a roar from The Congress, The Judiciary an the Clergy. Until they get their act together, we will continue on this road to a dystopian future for our children and their children.
 
SEE: Separated at the Border From Their Parents: In Six Weeks, 1,995 Children

June 15, 2018

”WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said on Friday that it had separated 1,995 children from parents facing criminal prosecution for unlawfully crossing the border over a six-week period that ended last month, as President Trump sought to shift blame for the widely criticized practice that has become the signature policy of his aggressive immigration agenda.”

The article goes on to say the above mentioned children were separated from 1,940 adults from April 19th to May 31st. This confirms there is an ongoing invasion [1,995 children and 1,940 adults in one and a half months] of our borders and the Trump Administration appears to be allowing this invasion to continue unabated.

Why is President Trump not putting the National Guard on the border with instructions to physically prevent these foreigners from entering our side of the border? Why is the Trump Administration allowing this invasion to continue and then making American Citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of almost 4,000 foreigners who have invaded our borders in just one and a half months?

JWK



There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.

Seems to me that the final paragraph describes the Germans, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese, as well as Africans who first came as slaves, to our shores which once proudly was described as a melting pot of humanity.


Huh? What on earth are you talking about. Please elaborate on your cryptic assertion.


JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.



 
People have been streaming over our southern border for decades now. It ain't nothing new.

You are correct. And the consequences which the American people feel are now being felt across the country.



Let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995



Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department's Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County's assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.



Impacts on San Diego County


In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.


Welfare Costs.


When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 "citizen children" apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these "citizen child" cases continues to rise each year.


Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to "citizen children" cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.


Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.


Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.


Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.


Criminal justice.

A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.



According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.



Education.


Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.

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And, more recently see:


Illegal aliens cost California billions

2004

”Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.”


Also see: Testimony about "51 Florida Hospitals in trouble" due to illegal aliens expenses:


Jun 10, 2008


”No need to editorialize. Here is a sampling of the sort of facts the politicians and pro-illegal lobby want you to ignore, yet expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is it any wonder scores of hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”


Then take a look at Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care


Aug 19, 2010


Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.


And how about this: The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer


May 6, 2013


”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”


And how about the tens of thousands of criminal aliens released into our nation’s population? See: Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014


Mar 2015


”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”


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JWK





There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.



 
SEE: Separated at the Border From Their Parents: In Six Weeks, 1,995 Children

June 15, 2018

”WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said on Friday that it had separated 1,995 children from parents facing criminal prosecution for unlawfully crossing the border over a six-week period that ended last month, as President Trump sought to shift blame for the widely criticized practice that has become the signature policy of his aggressive immigration agenda.”

The article goes on to say the above mentioned children were separated from 1,940 adults from April 19th to May 31st. This confirms there is an ongoing invasion [1,995 children and 1,940 adults in one and a half months] of our borders and the Trump Administration appears to be allowing this invasion to continue unabated.

Why is President Trump not putting the National Guard on the border with instructions to physically prevent these foreigners from entering our side of the border? Why is the Trump Administration allowing this invasion to continue and then making American Citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of almost 4,000 foreigners who have invaded our borders in just one and a half months?

JWK



There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.

Seems to me that the final paragraph describes the Germans, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese, as well as Africans who first came as slaves, to our shores which once proudly was described as a melting pot of humanity.


Huh? What on earth are you talking about. Please elaborate on your cryptic assertion.


JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.




What I thought of was if there were no businesses hiring illegals there would be no reason for illegals to enter the country.
 
SEE: Separated at the Border From Their Parents: In Six Weeks, 1,995 Children

June 15, 2018

”WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said on Friday that it had separated 1,995 children from parents facing criminal prosecution for unlawfully crossing the border over a six-week period that ended last month, as President Trump sought to shift blame for the widely criticized practice that has become the signature policy of his aggressive immigration agenda.”

The article goes on to say the above mentioned children were separated from 1,940 adults from April 19th to May 31st. This confirms there is an ongoing invasion [1,995 children and 1,940 adults in one and a half months] of our borders and the Trump Administration appears to be allowing this invasion to continue unabated.

Why is President Trump not putting the National Guard on the border with instructions to physically prevent these foreigners from entering our side of the border? Why is the Trump Administration allowing this invasion to continue and then making American Citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of almost 4,000 foreigners who have invaded our borders in just one and a half months?

JWK



There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.

Seems to me that the final paragraph describes the Germans, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese, as well as Africans who first came as slaves, to our shores which once proudly was described as a melting pot of humanity.


Huh? What on earth are you talking about. Please elaborate on your cryptic assertion.


JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.




What I thought of was if there were no businesses hiring illegals there would be no reason for illegals to enter the country.


And you would be correct to a very large degree! But keep in mind sanctuary cities and free government cheese also draws the poverty stricken populations of other countries.

JWK
 
What I thought of was if there were no businesses hiring illegals there would be no reason for illegals to enter the country.

I think there's more to it than that. Sure, most of these people coming up from Central America are looking for a job, someway to support their families, but more than anything else it's to escape the poverty, drugs, and violence in their own countries. At least here their kids are going to get fed and go to school and get healthcare. That's why they're coming here, the place where they're coming from is a true shithole.
 
SEE: Separated at the Border From Their Parents: In Six Weeks, 1,995 Children

June 15, 2018

”WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said on Friday that it had separated 1,995 children from parents facing criminal prosecution for unlawfully crossing the border over a six-week period that ended last month, as President Trump sought to shift blame for the widely criticized practice that has become the signature policy of his aggressive immigration agenda.”

The article goes on to say the above mentioned children were separated from 1,940 adults from April 19th to May 31st. This confirms there is an ongoing invasion [1,995 children and 1,940 adults in one and a half months] of our borders and the Trump Administration appears to be allowing this invasion to continue unabated.

Why is President Trump not putting the National Guard on the border with instructions to physically prevent these foreigners from entering our side of the border? Why is the Trump Administration allowing this invasion to continue and then making American Citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of almost 4,000 foreigners who have invaded our borders in just one and a half months?

JWK



There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.

Seems to me that the final paragraph describes the Germans, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese, as well as Africans who first came as slaves, to our shores which once proudly was described as a melting pot of humanity.


Huh? What on earth are you talking about. Please elaborate on your cryptic assertion.


JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.




What I thought of was if there were no businesses hiring illegals there would be no reason for illegals to enter the country.


And you would be correct to a very large degree! But keep in mind sanctuary cities and free government cheese also draws the poverty stricken populations of other countries.

JWK

Well, why would anyone go to Texas, Alabama, Florida or any RED STATE where they are hated for the color of their skin?
 
SEE: Separated at the Border From Their Parents: In Six Weeks, 1,995 Children

June 15, 2018

”WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said on Friday that it had separated 1,995 children from parents facing criminal prosecution for unlawfully crossing the border over a six-week period that ended last month, as President Trump sought to shift blame for the widely criticized practice that has become the signature policy of his aggressive immigration agenda.”

The article goes on to say the above mentioned children were separated from 1,940 adults from April 19th to May 31st. This confirms there is an ongoing invasion [1,995 children and 1,940 adults in one and a half months] of our borders and the Trump Administration appears to be allowing this invasion to continue unabated.

Why is President Trump not putting the National Guard on the border with instructions to physically prevent these foreigners from entering our side of the border? Why is the Trump Administration allowing this invasion to continue and then making American Citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of almost 4,000 foreigners who have invaded our borders in just one and a half months?

JWK



There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.

Seems to me that the final paragraph describes the Germans, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese, as well as Africans who first came as slaves, to our shores which once proudly was described as a melting pot of humanity.


Huh? What on earth are you talking about. Please elaborate on your cryptic assertion.


JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.




What I thought of was if there were no businesses hiring illegals there would be no reason for illegals to enter the country.


And you would be correct to a very large degree! But keep in mind sanctuary cities and free government cheese also draws the poverty stricken populations of other countries.

JWK

Well, why would anyone go to Texas, Alabama, Florida or any RED STATE where they are hated for the color of their skin?

Hated for the color of their skin? :eusa_naughty: :icon_rolleyes:


JWK





The unavoidable truth is, our Fifth Column democrat political leaders’ plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by confiscating and redistributing the paychecks of millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.



 
Seems to me that the final paragraph describes the Germans, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese, as well as Africans who first came as slaves, to our shores which once proudly was described as a melting pot of humanity.


Huh? What on earth are you talking about. Please elaborate on your cryptic assertion.


JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.




What I thought of was if there were no businesses hiring illegals there would be no reason for illegals to enter the country.


And you would be correct to a very large degree! But keep in mind sanctuary cities and free government cheese also draws the poverty stricken populations of other countries.

JWK

Well, why would anyone go to Texas, Alabama, Florida or any RED STATE where they are hated for the color of their skin?

Hated for the color of their skin? :eusa_naughty: :icon_rolleyes:


JWK





The unavoidable truth is, our Fifth Column democrat political leaders’ plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by confiscating and redistributing the paychecks of millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.



Denial, or a truth that hurts.
 
Why is Mexico not blocking asylum seekers and migrants at THEIR southern border? Why is Mexico providing safe passage across their entire country straight to our doorstep? Why are we not charging Mexico a TARIFF for these illegals to help offset the enormous costs in dealing with these people?
 
“Why is the Trump Administration allowing an ongoing invasion of our borders?”

And now conservatives turn on Trump with their lies.

No one is ‘allowing’ an ‘invasion’ of our borders.

Indeed, there is no ‘invasion.’
 
“Why is the Trump Administration allowing an ongoing invasion of our borders?”

And now conservatives turn on Trump with their lies.

No one is ‘allowing’ an ‘invasion’ of our borders.

Indeed, there is no ‘invasion.’

Everyone suspects you are stupid.

Why do you post and remove all doubt.
 
SEE: Separated at the Border From Their Parents: In Six Weeks, 1,995 Children

June 15, 2018

”WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said on Friday that it had separated 1,995 children from parents facing criminal prosecution for unlawfully crossing the border over a six-week period that ended last month, as President Trump sought to shift blame for the widely criticized practice that has become the signature policy of his aggressive immigration agenda.”

The article goes on to say the above mentioned children were separated from 1,940 adults from April 19th to May 31st. This confirms there is an ongoing invasion [1,995 children and 1,940 adults in one and a half months] of our borders and the Trump Administration appears to be allowing this invasion to continue unabated.

Why is President Trump not putting the National Guard on the border with instructions to physically prevent these foreigners from entering our side of the border? Why is the Trump Administration allowing this invasion to continue and then making American Citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of almost 4,000 foreigners who have invaded our borders in just one and a half months?

JWK



There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.

Seems to me that the final paragraph describes the Germans, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese, as well as Africans who first came as slaves, to our shores which once proudly was described as a melting pot of humanity.


Huh? What on earth are you talking about. Please elaborate on your cryptic assertion.


JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.



There is nothing "crytic" in my comments, they are clear and precise. In fact as We the People with empathy spoke out, this paragraph was prophetic:

"Today's foreign and domestic policies, the product of Trump and his swamp creatures, is illogical, emotional and hateful. It's time to wake up and speak out, and the silence is a roar from The Congress, The Judiciary an the Clergy. Until they get their act together, we will continue on this road to a dystopian future for our children and their children."
 
What I thought of was if there were no businesses hiring illegals there would be no reason for illegals to enter the country.

I think there's more to it than that. Sure, most of these people coming up from Central America are looking for a job, someway to support their families, but more than anything else it's to escape the poverty, drugs, and violence in their own countries. At least here their kids are going to get fed and go to school and get healthcare. That's why they're coming here, the place where they're coming from is a true shithole.

True.

I'll say some percentage of folks are just going to show up because of political reasons or whatever. Honestly I wonder what percentage that is. I can't blame anyone who just doesn't want to live in Mexico when AMERICA is right across the border.

hmmmmm, what percentage are here for easy to get jobs which pay comparatively well vs bigger political reasons. Any ideas?
 
There's also the possibility that someone is running an operation to organize and push groups of south and central American peoples toward our southern borders. Mexico need not concern itself nor spend a dime to with or on a single transient migrant when its government can just allow them to continue north. America has historically been the great sponge of the world. The waves aren't breaking on the rocks they're breaking right over the levy. We all know what Led Zeppelin said about that.

Either way it's an invasion. It's happening in Europe as well.
 
What I thought of was if there were no businesses hiring illegals there would be no reason for illegals to enter the country.

I think there's more to it than that. Sure, most of these people coming up from Central America are looking for a job, someway to support their families, but more than anything else it's to escape the poverty, drugs, and violence in their own countries. At least here their kids are going to get fed and go to school and get healthcare. That's why they're coming here, the place where they're coming from is a true shithole.

True.

I'll say some percentage of folks are just going to show up because of political reasons or whatever. Honestly I wonder what percentage that is. I can't blame anyone who just doesn't want to live in Mexico when AMERICA is right across the border.

hmmmmm, what percentage are here for easy to get jobs which pay comparatively well vs bigger political reasons. Any ideas?

I don't know if the specific reason(s) for so many coming here illegally matter that much, the bottom line is they're looking for a better and safer place for themselves and their families. And I don't blame them for that, but we just can't manage all these people coming into our country. We already got plenty of poor, disadvantaged people here, and we aren't doing so good at taking care of our own. Adding millions more is not helping.
 

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