Why is the 16th Amendment an attack on property rights?

[Valox]

Barring any geolibertarian arguments, property comes from labor. Property is the extension of one's faculties and therefore taxing labor is therefore a violation of property rights. If you own yourself, then you own the extension of your faculties, which is property.

I really don't know how much more succinct I can be for you, especially for the retards on this board.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Well except for the whole concept that in fact the Government can and does tax property and did so BEFORE income tax.

 

[The T]

Well except for the whole concept that in fact the Government can and does tax property and did so BEFORE income tax.

Property and commerce...the Founders NEVER meant for income to be taxed. It would be and has become a weapon for politicians to control the people.

 

[Valox]

Well except for the whole concept that in fact the Government can and does tax property and did so BEFORE income tax.

Where does property come from, you statist freak?

 

[Valox]

Well except for the whole concept that in fact the Government can and does tax property and did so BEFORE income tax.

Property and commerce...the Founders NEVER meant for income to be taxed. It would be and has become a weapon for politicians to control the people.

Sure they did. (re: the Whiskey Rebellion).

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Well except for the whole concept that in fact the Government can and does tax property and did so BEFORE income tax.

Property and commerce...the Founders NEVER meant for income to be taxed. It would be and has become a weapon for politicians to control the people.

The Constitution was AMENDED to allow Income Tax. Just as the Founders intended it be made to be Amended.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Well except for the whole concept that in fact the Government can and does tax property and did so BEFORE income tax.

Where does property come from, you statist freak?

A whole hell of a lot of property came FROM the Government via land grants from the King and then purchases or conquest by the US Government.

 

[Valox]

Well except for the whole concept that in fact the Government can and does tax property and did so BEFORE income tax.

Property and commerce...the Founders NEVER meant for income to be taxed. It would be and has become a weapon for politicians to control the people.

The Constitution was AMENDED to allow Income Tax. Just as the Founders intended it be made to be Amended.

I realize this, but this does not stop me from pointing out the fact that you hate property rights and the a priori truth that individuals own themselves.

Republicans are such fascists pigs.

 

[Valox]

Well except for the whole concept that in fact the Government can and does tax property and did so BEFORE income tax.

Where does property come from, you statist freak?

A whole hell of a lot of property came FROM the Government via land grants from the King and then purchases or conquest by the US Government.

Property does not come from the government, you tyrant. It comes from the individual who expels their labor.

 

[The T]

Well except for the whole concept that in fact the Government can and does tax property and did so BEFORE income tax.

Property and commerce...the Founders NEVER meant for income to be taxed. It would be and has become a weapon for politicians to control the people.

The Constitution was AMENDED to allow Income Tax. Just as the Founders intended it be made to be Amended.

True...and look at who it was thatAmended it and who was POTUS at the time? None other than Socialist Wilson...

It should be amended OUT just as prohibition was for the damage it has caused society.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Property and commerce...the Founders NEVER meant for income to be taxed. It would be and has become a weapon for politicians to control the people.

The Constitution was AMENDED to allow Income Tax. Just as the Founders intended it be made to be Amended.

True...and look at who it was thatAmended it and who was POTUS at the time? None other than Socialist Wilson...

It should be amended OUT just as prohibition was for the damage it has caused society.

Never gonna happen. The Government never willingly gives up any income source and since the main method to create an Amendment requires 2/3rds of both houses to pass it to the people for vote, it simply won't ever happen.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Where does property come from, you statist freak?

A whole hell of a lot of property came FROM the Government via land grants from the King and then purchases or conquest by the US Government.

Property does not come from the government, you tyrant. It comes from the individual who expels their labor.

And yet the people APPROVED giving the Government at ALL levels the power to tax especially property.

 

[Valox]

A whole hell of a lot of property came FROM the Government via land grants from the King and then purchases or conquest by the US Government.

Property does not come from the government, you tyrant. It comes from the individual who expels their labor.

And yet the people APPROVED giving the Government at ALL levels the power to tax especially property.

People think gay marriage and smoking pot is wrong.

What is your point, especially on property rights?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Property does not come from the government, you tyrant. It comes from the individual who expels their labor.

And yet the people APPROVED giving the Government at ALL levels the power to tax especially property.

People think gay marriage and smoking pot is wrong.

What is your point, especially on property rights?

That you are a loon. The people have consistently, when ever asked, given all levels of Government the power WILLINGLY to tax property. BEFORE the 16th Amendment and since day one of this Country the Government has had the power to tax property.

 

[Valox]

And yet the people APPROVED giving the Government at ALL levels the power to tax especially property.

People think gay marriage and smoking pot is wrong.

What is your point, especially on property rights?

That you are a loon. The people have consistently, when ever asked, given all levels of Government the power WILLINGLY to tax property. BEFORE the 16th Amendment and since day one of this Country the Government has had the power to tax property.

So, how is the income tax not a violation of property?

You can call me names all you want, but you fail to address my question.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

People think gay marriage and smoking pot is wrong.

What is your point, especially on property rights?

That you are a loon. The people have consistently, when ever asked, given all levels of Government the power WILLINGLY to tax property. BEFORE the 16th Amendment and since day one of this Country the Government has had the power to tax property.

So, how is the income tax not a violation of property?

You can call me names all you want, but you fail to address my question.

You have yet to substantiate any violation of the law , ethics or authority given freely by the people to the Government to TAX PROPERTY. If your labor is property then the Government always had the power to tax it, yet they created and passed an amendment to the Constitution to authorize the taxing of income. APPROVED by the people.

 

[The T]

The Constitution was AMENDED to allow Income Tax. Just as the Founders intended it be made to be Amended.

True...and look at who it was thatAmended it and who was POTUS at the time? None other than Socialist Wilson...

It should be amended OUT just as prohibition was for the damage it has caused society.

Never gonna happen. The Government never willingly gives up any income source and since the main method to create an Amendment requires 2/3rds of both houses to pass it to the people for vote, it simply won't ever happen.

So we go over the cliff. Our exercises are just futility?

 

[Valox]

That you are a loon. The people have consistently, when ever asked, given all levels of Government the power WILLINGLY to tax property. BEFORE the 16th Amendment and since day one of this Country the Government has had the power to tax property.

So, how is the income tax not a violation of property?

You can call me names all you want, but you fail to address my question.

You have yet to substantiate any violation of the law , ethics or authority given freely by the people to the Government to TAX PROPERTY. If your labor is property then the Government always had the power to tax it, yet they created and passed an amendment to the Constitution to authorize the taxing of income. APPROVED by the people.

Talk about a strawman argument.

IOW, property just mystically before your eyes. Man never had to work for it.

Gosh, you rw freaks are idiots.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So, how is the income tax not a violation of property?

You can call me names all you want, but you fail to address my question.

You have yet to substantiate any violation of the law , ethics or authority given freely by the people to the Government to TAX PROPERTY. If your labor is property then the Government always had the power to tax it, yet they created and passed an amendment to the Constitution to authorize the taxing of income. APPROVED by the people.

Talk about a strawman argument.

IOW, property just mystically before your eyes. Man never had to work for it.

Gosh, you rw freaks are idiots.

Once again you dumb ass, THE PEOPLE FREELY gave to all levels of Government the power to tax property. You have no argument.

 

[Valox]

You have yet to substantiate any violation of the law , ethics or authority given freely by the people to the Government to TAX PROPERTY. If your labor is property then the Government always had the power to tax it, yet they created and passed an amendment to the Constitution to authorize the taxing of income. APPROVED by the people.

Talk about a strawman argument.

IOW, property just mystically before your eyes. Man never had to work for it.

Gosh, you rw freaks are idiots.

Once again you dumb ass, THE PEOPLE FREELY gave to all levels of Government the power to tax property. You have no argument.

How is taxing labor not taxing property?

That is my argument in which you are trying to distort, you fucking piece shit. I am done with you.