Why is Polygamous Marriage "Wrong"?

[garyganu]

NAMBLA is a Urban myth....

excerpt from Wikipedia:

NAMBLA's website states that it is a political, civil rights, and educational organization whose goal is to end "the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships."[9] According to the NAMBLA, some of the organization's primary positions are:
Supporting and promoting man/boy relationships: they hold that when consensual these relationships are not harmful or child sexual abuse.[10] One study they cite is the controversial Rind et al. paper.[11]
Age-of-consent reform: what NAMBLA describes as "empowerment of youth in all areas, not just the sexual."[9]

link: North American Man/Boy Love Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NAMBLA has almost no membership outside of a website. It exists mostly in the minds of rightwing fear mongers

excerpt from Wikipedia:

Some reports state that the group no longer has regular national meetings, and that as of the late 1990s, to avoid local police infiltration, the organization discouraged the formation of local chapters.[4][5] Around 1995, an undercover detective discovered that there were 1,100 people on the rolls.[4] As of 2005, a newspaper report stated that NAMBLA was based in New York and San Francisco, and held an annual gathering in New York City and monthly meetings around the country.[4]

 

[Douger]

Marry ? Why ?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciFGqXIUPU]Charlie Sheen's 'Goddesses': 'We All Love Charlie' (03.01.11) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[garyganu]

You are legally allowed to marry a woman and keep a mistress on the side. But if you try to be legally responsible to both you are breaking the law

You unwittingly described what is wrong with "no fault divorce" laws. Cheating on your wife or husband is a "breach of contract" and the guilty party should be held liable and forced to pay damages.

Marriage is about rights and responsibilities to each other. Modern society has taken all of the responsibility out of marriage. If people were held accountable for their actions, we would see much fewer divorces and much less gays wanting to get married.

We have always needed no fault divorce to handle the "you are an asshole and I don't want to stay married to you"

Not true. No fault divorce laws started popping up in the 60's.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Well, no, then they wouldn't be gay, they'd be pedophiles... which is a completely different psychological thing.

Since some pedophiles molest people of the opposite sex, we should ban straight relationships by your faulty logic.

Joe, we do have well financed organizations that are led by homosexuals like NAMBLA, but if heterosexual pedos are just as determined, where is their organization? Why wouldnt NAMBLA organize in such a way as to represent them as well?

NAMBLA is a Urban myth....

Seriously Joe, you dont seem to be keeping up with the latest events on this topic.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, we do have well financed organizations that are led by homosexuals like NAMBLA, but if heterosexual pedos are just as determined, where is their organization? Why wouldnt NAMBLA organize in such a way as to represent them as well?

NAMBLA is a Urban myth....

Seriously Joe, you dont seem to be keeping up with the latest events on this topic.

Umm, actually, I have....

It's kind of like the Satanic Panic we had in the 1990's. There's this huge conspiracy that usually turns out to be a few losers in their mother's basements.

 

[JoeB131]

You unwittingly described what is wrong with "no fault divorce" laws. Cheating on your wife or husband is a "breach of contract" and the guilty party should be held liable and forced to pay damages.

Marriage is about rights and responsibilities to each other. Modern society has taken all of the responsibility out of marriage. If people were held accountable for their actions, we would see much fewer divorces and much less gays wanting to get married.

We have always needed no fault divorce to handle the "you are an asshole and I don't want to stay married to you"

Not true. No fault divorce laws started popping up in the 60's.

True. And usually, they involved people going a head and lying to a judge about bad stuff that never happened so they could get out of it.

 

[JimBowie1958]

NAMBLA is a Urban myth....

Seriously Joe, you dont seem to be keeping up with the latest events on this topic.

Umm, actually, I have....

It's kind of like the Satanic Panic we had in the 1990's. There's this huge conspiracy that usually turns out to be a few losers in their mother's basements.

Lol, no, Joe, there are plenty of Satanists around; some take it seriously, most dont. It encompasses a wide variety of 'occult' groups some of which specify worship of Satan in the killings, some dont.

This guy was very serious.
Adolfo Constanzo

The first part of Mark Kilroy to be found, four weeks later, was his brain. It turned up in a black cauldron, and it had been boiled in blood over an open fire along with a turtle shell, a horseshoe, a spinal column and other human bones.

His ritual death and dismemberment had been carried out in service to religion—a bizarre, drug-demented occult religion practiced by an American marijuana smuggler operating out of Mexico. Authorities were led to a grave containing Kilroy's body, or at least what remained of it, and after that the uncovering of mutilated corpses went on and on. The first day of digging brought up a dozen bodies, all of them buried on the grounds of Rancho Santa Elena, a grand name for a cattle ranch that is little more than a decrepit corral and a tarpaper-and-wood shanty located just off a twisting, unpaved road. The victims had been slashed, beaten, shot, hanged or boiled alive, the only commonality to their deaths the ritual mutilations that followed. The walls of the 15-foot by 25-foot shack were stained with blood, and scattered about were some items used in the rituals, including a machete and white votive candles in a box bearing a representation of Our Lady of Guadalupe, the patroness of Mexico.

The four men who led police to their cult clubhouse were picked up after one of them, David Serna Valdez, 22, ran a narcotics-interception roadblock near Rancho Santa Elena. Authorities pursued his silver Chevrolet onto the property and found a revolver and a small amount of marijuana in the car. Police showed a picture of the missing American. The ranch caretaker, who has not been charged with any crimes, recognized Kilroy from the photo, and he was also able to give police the names of three other gang members. After 36 hours of questioning—questioning by Mexican authorities can be persuasive—the four men talked.

The gang members told how their leader, Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo, a 26-year-old Cuban-American born and raised in Miami, had killed Kilroy with a single machete blow to the back of his head. Three of the men said they personally had no part in the killings because Constanzo did not permit them to participate. The fourth, Elio Hernandez Rivera, 22, admitted that Constanzo had selected him to be his second-in-command and had marked his body with the symbols denoting fitness to be an occult executioner.

Yes, the vast majority of Satanic cells and cult doings are just kiddings engaged in theological stupidity.

Some are not.

 

[garyganu]

NAMBLA is a Urban myth....

Seriously Joe, you dont seem to be keeping up with the latest events on this topic.

Umm, actually, I have....

It's kind of like the Satanic Panic we had in the 1990's. There's this huge conspiracy that usually turns out to be a few losers in their mother's basements.

Joe, you are not keeping up with satanism either. Satanism is Not necessarily the worship of Satin. Satanism has to do mostly with mocking and demonizing Christianity. Heavy metal music is based on satanism. It seems that many so-called atheist groups are satanists. Satanism is very prevalent in today's America.

 

[Luissa]

Seriously Joe, you dont seem to be keeping up with the latest events on this topic.

Umm, actually, I have....

It's kind of like the Satanic Panic we had in the 1990's. There's this huge conspiracy that usually turns out to be a few losers in their mother's basements.

Joe, you are not keeping up with satanism either. Satanism is Not necessarily the worship of Satin. Satanism has to do mostly with mocking and demonizing Christianity. Heavy metal music is based on satanism. It seems that many so-called atheist groups are satanists. Satanism is very prevalent in today's America.

Should we have a trial?

 

[rightwinger]

Seriously Joe, you dont seem to be keeping up with the latest events on this topic.

Umm, actually, I have....

It's kind of like the Satanic Panic we had in the 1990's. There's this huge conspiracy that usually turns out to be a few losers in their mother's basements.

Joe, you are not keeping up with satanism either. Satanism is Not necessarily the worship of Satin. Satanism has to do mostly with mocking and demonizing Christianity. Heavy metal music is based on satanism. It seems that many so-called atheist groups are satanists. Satanism is very prevalent in today's America.

Damn....you really are off the deep end

 

[JimBowie1958]

Umm, actually, I have....

It's kind of like the Satanic Panic we had in the 1990's. There's this huge conspiracy that usually turns out to be a few losers in their mother's basements.

Joe, you are not keeping up with satanism either. Satanism is Not necessarily the worship of Satin. Satanism has to do mostly with mocking and demonizing Christianity. Heavy metal music is based on satanism. It seems that many so-called atheist groups are satanists. Satanism is very prevalent in today's America.

Damn....you really are off the deep end

He has a respectable opinion, though I disagree.

And I guess you have no problem with anything on the left edge of the spectrum?

 

[High_Gravity]

As predicted, the acceptance homosexuality of as "normal" has led to the acceptance of other forms of deviancy as normal. Next will be pedophilia (lowering the age of consent), then they will legalize prostitution..

Pedophilia is wrong because a child can't give meaningful consent.

As for Polygamy... I'm not seeing what the problem is, exactly. We have polygamy now, except one mate is called the "Wife" and the other one is called the "mistress".

For legalizing prostitution, again, since the prostitution laws are barely enforced, I'm not seeing the benefit to having a law. It seems kind of silly to prosecute someone for taking money when its no crime if they do it for free.

They will argue that 18 years is too old for consent. First they will lower the age of consent to 16, then to 14 then to puberty. This is what they will do. It is very predictable. They will incrementally "normalize" all forms of sexual deviancy.

In some states the age of consent is already 16.

 

[Sallow]

Probably because of the expense.

Europe ran into this problem when they had Africans coming to their countries..and earning enough money to buy more wives..then bringing them home.

Man..

 

[Sallow]

Seriously Joe, you dont seem to be keeping up with the latest events on this topic.

Umm, actually, I have....

It's kind of like the Satanic Panic we had in the 1990's. There's this huge conspiracy that usually turns out to be a few losers in their mother's basements.

Joe, you are not keeping up with satanism either. Satanism is Not necessarily the worship of Satin. Satanism has to do mostly with mocking and demonizing Christianity. Heavy metal music is based on satanism. It seems that many so-called atheist groups are satanists. Satanism is very prevalent in today's America.

Atheists are not Satanist.

We don't believe in any of your magical bullshit.

 

[High_Gravity]

Probably because of the expense.

Europe ran into this problem when they had Africans coming to their countries..and earning enough money to buy more wives..then bringing them home.

Man..

If these Africans can afford to pay for and support their own wives I am ok with it, if they need assistance than I'm not, if you want to have a harem you have to use your own dime for it. I used to see multiple women at once and I was always broke, I don't have any sympathy for them its expensive to please multiple women.

 

[High_Gravity]

See the poll

Its not wrong as long as they are all consenting adults, if I want to marry both of my girlfriends it should be only my business.

You can do whatever you want.... as long as I ain't fucking paying for it. Currently, since people seem incapable of paying for their own fucking offspring, I don't support anyone having kids that they can't afford - regardless of their marital state.

Having said that, since I'm a Catholic, and the Bible is quite clear on the subject, that's good enough for me.

Well I am only ok with it if they can support themselves, I am not in favor of polygamous families living off the dole.

 

[garyganu]

Pedophilia is wrong because a child can't give meaningful consent.

As for Polygamy... I'm not seeing what the problem is, exactly. We have polygamy now, except one mate is called the "Wife" and the other one is called the "mistress".

For legalizing prostitution, again, since the prostitution laws are barely enforced, I'm not seeing the benefit to having a law. It seems kind of silly to prosecute someone for taking money when its no crime if they do it for free.

They will argue that 18 years is too old for consent. First they will lower the age of consent to 16, then to 14 then to puberty. This is what they will do. It is very predictable. They will incrementally "normalize" all forms of sexual deviancy.

In some states the age of consent is already 16.

Not for child porn.

 

[garyganu]

Its not wrong as long as they are all consenting adults, if I want to marry both of my girlfriends it should be only my business.

You can do whatever you want.... as long as I ain't fucking paying for it. Currently, since people seem incapable of paying for their own fucking offspring, I don't support anyone having kids that they can't afford - regardless of their marital state.

Having said that, since I'm a Catholic, and the Bible is quite clear on the subject, that's good enough for me.

Well I am only ok with it if they can support themselves, I am not in favor of polygamous families living off the dole.

Liberals will call you a "child hater" for thinking like that after polygamy becomes legal.

 

[High_Gravity]

They will argue that 18 years is too old for consent. First they will lower the age of consent to 16, then to 14 then to puberty. This is what they will do. It is very predictable. They will incrementally "normalize" all forms of sexual deviancy.

In some states the age of consent is already 16.

Not for child porn.

 

[garyganu]

In some states the age of consent is already 16.

Not for child porn.

After the age of consent is lowered the phrase "barely legal" will include 16 year olds and younger for porn and prostitution. More young girls will be recruited as the demand increases.