Why is only one news group picking this up?

[jreeves]

so if i'm right that the gop passed a law that american oil companies never have to pay more than $56 a barrel, would that change your opinion in any way?

you need to answer that before I prove anything to you.

I don't think it will matter to you.

if you will just fall back on, "the dems do it too or the oil companies give to obama too and the dems are just as bad, I assume not waste the time digging.

i'll say it again, conservatives love socializing loses and privatizing profits.

and passing that law spit in the face of supply and demand.

and I bet if you look at what the company pays in taxes, they aren't counting rebates, returns, credits. I'm sure those numbers are fuzzy too.


anyways, answer my question and i'll decide if you are worthy of an education. seriously. I'm sick of showing when it means nothing.

Link??

 

[jreeves]

No its not all about republicans. That only half the problem. lol

Ok smary. You seem to know everything, why don't YOU know what exxon pays the US government for each barrel of oil they pump out of our lands.

that's a pretty important thing you don't know, huh?

maybe you should shut the fuck up until you know what you are talking about.

Link....or STFU

 

[sealybobo]

Again, Obama voted for the current energy policy, Mccain voted against it, so again how is Obama not a vote for the same energy policy?

ha ha! I told you that you would fall back on this argument.

i'm not showing you shit.

you are uneducatable.

 

[jreeves]

ha ha! I told you that you would fall back on this argument.

i'm not showing you shit.

you are uneducatable.

proof or STFU

Self admitted partisan...

 

[sealybobo]

proof or STFU

Self admitted partisan...

You don't know how much the oil companies pay America for a barrel of oil?

Don't you feel stupid?

You don't even have a guess/clue/idea what they pay.

I bet you thought they paid us $140 a barrel.

Checkmate!

 

[jreeves]

You don't know how much the oil companies pay America for a barrel of oil?

Don't you feel stupid?

You don't even have a guess/clue/idea what they pay.

I bet you thought they paid us $140 a barrel.

Checkmate!

Proof? Link?
This is another Skitzo episode isn't it?
Calm down and pop a pill....

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You don't know how much the oil companies pay America for a barrel of oil?

Don't you feel stupid?

You don't even have a guess/clue/idea what they pay.

I bet you thought they paid us $140 a barrel.

Checkmate!

Since the contracts establishing what the oil companies pay or paid for oil from Government lands are much older than the last 6 months, why would you think the oil companies would be paying current prices?

You are aware they sign long term agreements with fixed prices?

And provide some prove that oil companies pay per barrel and not just lease the land.

 

[jreeves]

Since the contracts establishing what the oil companies pay or paid for oil from Government lands are much older than the last 6 months, why would you think the oil companies would be paying current prices?

You are aware they sign long term agreements with fixed prices?

And provide some prove that oil companies pay per barrel and not just lease the land.

This is what I am waiting for proof of, since bobo made the assertion....

What will you say if I show you the law that says the oil companies never have to pay more than $56 a barrel for oil they pump out of our ground. Seems like a dumb thing to do considering they talk a big game about supply and demand.


waiting Bobo.....

 

[Ravi]

saudi arabia could make more seling all their oil to europe and china, but they practically give it to their citizens. that's because their citizens aren't sheep and pussies. lol

It's actually because their government owns their oil and gives it to the people cheaply as a perk. Socialism, kind of/sort of.

 

[Paulie]

It's actually because their government owns their oil and gives it to the people cheaply as a perk. Socialism, kind of/sort of.

kind of/sort of? If that's only SORT of socialism, then what would be full-blown socialism to you?

 

[sealybobo]

This is what I am waiting for proof of, since bobo made the assertion....

What will you say if I show you the law that says the oil companies never have to pay more than $56 a barrel for oil they pump out of our ground. Seems like a dumb thing to do considering they talk a big game about supply and demand.


waiting Bobo.....

You tell me what Exxon gives the US Government for each barrel of oil.

You did exactly what I warned you not to do. When you were speechless, you fell back on, "obama is no better....". So you are not worthy of explanation or proof. Fine, call me a liar. Or maybe I heard it on Randi Rhodes and it is very difficult to find.

So you educate me. Tell me what the oil companies give the USA per barrel of oil they pump out of the ground. I'm not going to do your homework for you.

 

[sealybobo]

Since the contracts establishing what the oil companies pay or paid for oil from Government lands are much older than the last 6 months, why would you think the oil companies would be paying current prices?

You are aware they sign long term agreements with fixed prices?

And provide some prove that oil companies pay per barrel and not just lease the land.

Yes, I am aware that the GOP has been planning this for a long time.

You provide me proof they just lease the land. And are you suggesting the oil companies get the raw end of the deal on these leases? You are a sucker.

Instead of telling people what you do know, start listening so you can understand you don't know shit.

I get what you are saying. You just don't seem to get what I'm saying.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes, I am aware that the GOP has been planning this for a long time.

You provide me proof they just lease the land. And are you suggesting the oil companies get the raw end of the deal on these leases? You are a sucker.

Instead of telling people what you do know, start listening so you can understand you don't know shit.

I get what you are saying. You just don't seem to get what I'm saying.

Already posted in another thread, these contracts require 12.5 to 16.5 percent of all revenue generated by the wells. There are a few exceptions where deals were made to encourage drilling by forgiving the royalties below a certain threshold, all of those have LONG ago been past. The Gulf/Atlantic region Generates 8 BILLION dollars a year for the Government.

 

[sealybobo]

Since the contracts establishing what the oil companies pay or paid for oil from Government lands are much older than the last 6 months, why would you think the oil companies would be paying current prices?

You are aware they sign long term agreements with fixed prices?

And provide some prove that oil companies pay per barrel and not just lease the land.

Do you really think the oil companies will ever lose on a piece of land? In other words, when it is all said and done, they will never pay more than $56 a barrel. Can you name one piece of land where the US Government made out and the Oil companies got fucked because there really wasn't that much oil?

Ok, they want ANWAR and Offshore. How much are they going to pay the US government for them?

Yes, I am aware. Are you?

 

[sealybobo]

It's actually because their government owns their oil and gives it to the people cheaply as a perk. Socialism, kind of/sort of.

Our government owns ANWAR and Offshore too. Why don't they give us this perk?

 

[Ravi]

Our government owns ANWAR and Offshore too. Why don't they give us this perk?

Because they are too busy laughing all the way to the bank as they watch the record export of gasoline from our shores to other countries.

 

[sealybobo]

Already posted in another thread, these contracts require 12.5 to 16.5 percent of all revenue generated by the wells. There are a few exceptions where deals were made to encourage drilling by forgiving the royalties below a certain threshold, all of those have LONG ago been past. The Gulf/Atlantic region Generates 8 BILLION dollars a year for the Government.

Doesn't take away the fact that we are buying oil from the world market for $140 a barrel and Exxon is selling our oil on the market for $140 a barrel and because they have these contracts where they will not pay over a certain price for the oil they pump from our land, their profits have increased x 6.

That's how they went from $8 billion profit to $40 billion profit.

So this doesn't work for us. And we shouldn't be interested in giving them ANWAR or OFFSHORE for cheap unless they share.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Doesn't take away the fact that we are buying oil from the world market for $140 a barrel and Exxon is selling our oil on the market for $140 a barrel and because they have these contracts where they will not pay over a certain price for the oil they pump from our land, their profits have increased x 6.

That's how they went from $8 billion profit to $40 billion profit.

So this doesn't work for us. And we shouldn't be interested in giving them ANWAR or OFFSHORE for cheap unless they share.

Wrong again, the royalties are not just paid on oil they sell to US. The royalties are paid for all oil and gas pumped and based on the SELLING price of said oil or gas. ( Gas being natural not oil based)

 

[sealybobo]

Wrong again, the royalties are not just paid on oil they sell to US. The royalties are paid for all oil and gas pumped and based on the SELLING price of said oil or gas. ( Gas being natural not oil based)

"Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control people."

Kissinger said that in 1970.

 

[AllieBaba]

And it seems good lefties everywhere believe it..hence their desire to control both.

Which is how I responded in the other thread where you posted this, as well...