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yes, he didObama made a good SHOW of reaching out. There wasn't any sincerity in it.
Bush, idiotically WAS inclusive, so much so that he entered into a co-dependency relationship with Congress -- a wink-and nod venture whereby they would give him what he wanted, and he would look the other way on their mountains of pork. This wasn't just the Dems in Congress either, this was everyone. It's one reason why Congress' approval rating was abysmal, even far lower than Dubya's was.
It's also the reason Dems in Congress kept renewing the tax cuts, the patriot act, and never gave him much noise on war spending. They liked the gravy train. And they knew they could demagogue these items and the deficit later, what a great set of political footballs. "Blame Booooosh" is the mantra which will carry The Obama through his first term, and get him re-elected for a second.
Bush chose to fight outside enemies, forgetting that he had major enemies on the inside. But he didn't care about that, what people think of him, or what they would say. You gotta admire the thick skin he has.
But he wasn't much of a chess player.
Bush didn't need to reach out to any opposition - there was none. Not just for the last decade, but for the last 3 decades, all of the politicians on both sides of the aisle were working for the same wealthy special interests.
The only thing separating the republicans from the democrats since Carter has been their choice in the fears they hyped in order to get votes. Policy has been dictated by the money holding the leashes of both parties.
Bush's most formidable enemy was the people from whom he was transferring wealth to his buddies at Halliburton, et al. That is why the republicans lost.
-Joe
when he came into office the GOP had a slim majority in the House, and the Dems had it in the senate
Bush bent over backwards to the dems and he let several of them write MAJOR pieces of legislation that he put his full weight behind and siogned
you have a very POOR memory if you keep repeating these lies you are telling
the point being that Bush DID make motions to democratsyes, he didBush didn't need to reach out to any opposition - there was none. Not just for the last decade, but for the last 3 decades, all of the politicians on both sides of the aisle were working for the same wealthy special interests.
The only thing separating the republicans from the democrats since Carter has been their choice in the fears they hyped in order to get votes. Policy has been dictated by the money holding the leashes of both parties.
Bush's most formidable enemy was the people from whom he was transferring wealth to his buddies at Halliburton, et al. That is why the republicans lost.
-Joe
when he came into office the GOP had a slim majority in the House, and the Dems had it in the senate
Bush bent over backwards to the dems and he let several of them write MAJOR pieces of legislation that he put his full weight behind and siogned
you have a very POOR memory if you keep repeating these lies you are telling
Dude, I'm saying it was the fault of the purse strings behind both parties. It didn't matter which party was in 'control', at least not to the money, it owns both. Bush didn't have to bend over backwards to anybody. He was just another tool in the box of the special interests to direct rivers of cash-flow their direction for as long as possible.
-Joe
the point being that Bush DID make motions to democratsyes, he did
when he came into office the GOP had a slim majority in the House, and the Dems had it in the senate
Bush bent over backwards to the dems and he let several of them write MAJOR pieces of legislation that he put his full weight behind and siogned
you have a very POOR memory if you keep repeating these lies you are telling
Dude, I'm saying it was the fault of the purse strings behind both parties. It didn't matter which party was in 'control', at least not to the money, it owns both. Bush didn't have to bend over backwards to anybody. He was just another tool in the box of the special interests to direct rivers of cash-flow their direction for as long as possible.
-Joe
and he continued to do so throughout his entire presidency
you guys seem to forget that NCLB was Ted Kennedy's baby
and several other democratic sponsored bills that Bush totally and fully supported
yeah, i can imagine you would blow off the truththe point being that Bush DID make motions to democratsDude, I'm saying it was the fault of the purse strings behind both parties. It didn't matter which party was in 'control', at least not to the money, it owns both. Bush didn't have to bend over backwards to anybody. He was just another tool in the box of the special interests to direct rivers of cash-flow their direction for as long as possible.
-Joe
and he continued to do so throughout his entire presidency
you guys seem to forget that NCLB was Ted Kennedy's baby
and several other democratic sponsored bills that Bush totally and fully supported
O.k... O.k... O.k... I see your point and raise you my opinion... Bush and the democrats were paid handsomely to play nicely and they did.
Big fucking deal.
-Joe
yeah, i can imagine you would blow off the truththe point being that Bush DID make motions to democrats
and he continued to do so throughout his entire presidency
you guys seem to forget that NCLB was Ted Kennedy's baby
and several other democratic sponsored bills that Bush totally and fully supported
O.k... O.k... O.k... I see your point and raise you my opinion... Bush and the democrats were paid handsomely to play nicely and they did.
Big fucking deal.
-Joe
you've been completely wrong in your assertions, then when that was pointed out, you say "Big Fuckin Deal"yeah, i can imagine you would blow off the truthO.k... O.k... O.k... I see your point and raise you my opinion... Bush and the democrats were paid handsomely to play nicely and they did.
Big fucking deal.
-Joe
I don't understand what you mean by 'blow off' the truth... can you please explain?
-Joe
you've been completely wrong in your assertions, then when that was pointed out, you say "Big Fuckin Deal"yeah, i can imagine you would blow off the truth
I don't understand what you mean by 'blow off' the truth... can you please explain?
-Joe
that is "blowing off the truth"
words mean things
thus proving me right yet againyou've been completely wrong in your assertions, then when that was pointed out, you say "Big Fuckin Deal"I don't understand what you mean by 'blow off' the truth... can you please explain?
-Joe
that is "blowing off the truth"
words mean things
You assume I agree with you that I'm wrong. I do not.
-Joe
because you and your party deserve to be reminded that you voted for Dumbya twice, nominated him twice as the best your party had to offer, supported and/or defended 98% of Bush's policies for 8 years, voted for republican candidates who voted with Bush 95% of the time, took us into a catastrophic and expensive unneccessary war, and drove this nation off the cliff.
Until you get on your knees and beg forgiveness for fucking this country over, you need to be reminded of how you got us here.
Clinton did became irrelevant the minute he was no longer President.
I hope they continue to kneel at the altar of Rush. They will only attract the most rabid of the right wing and will alienate the independents. They will not get back into power with him at the helm.
And I hope the Dems stay fixated on Limbaugh because it's a great distraction to keep them from screwing up things even more. The fact that they have spent so much time on a talk show host, shows that their priorities are all about posturing, power and control and not doing what is best for the country. All politicians have hugh egos, the Dems just seem to have the biggest at the moment.
I view these boards on a regular basis and am surprised how most only care about their party even to the detriment of the country. They argue on party lines, not logical lines. The Dems have been out of power for so long, hteir supporters are giving them a pass on the craziest things just to be on the winning side.
Unfortunately when you become blinded by partisan politics, the politics are the only thing that wins.
I wonder why it is that with Democrats firmly in control of the Legislature and the White House and set to retake the Judiciary that so many liberals are busy reminding every one every day that the Republicans are , well what ever comes to mind insert here.
If as you claim the party is done for and won't recover and can never get elected again, why do you spend so much time bitching about the party YOU claim is done for?
To what end besides beating a dead horse do you aspire IF as you post, there is no hope and chance?
Just curious.
thus proving me right yet againyou've been completely wrong in your assertions, then when that was pointed out, you say "Big Fuckin Deal"
that is "blowing off the truth"
words mean things
You assume I agree with you that I'm wrong. I do not.
-Joe
you are blowing off the facts
