Why is it?

[manifold]

You missed the word only.

No I didn't.

If you support capitalism then you support a right-wing ideal. Like I said, I can't help it if that fact causes you intellectual or emotional discomfort.

 

[Ravi]

No I didn't.

If you support capitalism then you support a right-wing ideal. Like I said, I can't help it if that fact causes you intellectual or emotional discomfort.

That's a new level of retardedness you've sunk to.

The right wing has co-opted the ideals of others. By definition they are too regressive to have any new ideas of their own.

 

[manifold]

That's a new level of retardedness you've sunk to.

The right wing has co-opted the ideals of others. By definition they are too regressive to have any new ideas of their own.

Now you're falling into a trap similar to the one RetardedGaySgt flounders in. I'm not talking about mis-applied political lablels. Ideologically speaking, capitalism is right wing and socialism is left wing. Deal with it.

 

[Ravi]

Now you're falling into a trap similar to the one RetardedGaySgt flounders in. I'm not talking about mis-applied political lablels. Ideologically speaking, capitalism is right wing and socialism is left wing. Deal with it.

I disagree. Socialism is left wing but capitalism is not right wing. You're mixing up an economic model with a political philosophy.

 

[manifold]

I disagree. Socialism is left wing but capitalism is not right wing. You're mixing up an economic model with a political philosophy.

Socialism IS an economic model that stands in direct opposition to the capitalist model.

If I'm wrong, then tell me what economic model am I mistaking for socialism? And please don't say communism.

 

[manifold]

capitalism:

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market


socialism:

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

 

[Ravi]

Socialism IS an economic model that stands in direct opposition to the capitalist model.

If I'm wrong, then tell me what economic model am I mistaking for socialism? And please don't say communism.

So you are claiming we live in a right wing country because our economic system is capitalistic?

 

[Ravi]

capitalism:

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market


socialism:

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

Thanks for proving my point. Your definition describes capitalism as an economic system, not a political philosophy.

 

[manifold]

So you are claiming we live in a right wing country because our economic system is capitalistic?

We have many elements of socialism too, but by and large yes, we live under a right-wing economic model. I thought everyone knew that.

 

[manifold]

Thanks for proving my point. Your definition describes capitalism as an economic system, not a political philosophy.

It also defines socialism as an econimic system artard.

 

[manifold]

Again, if I'm wrong, then tell me what economic model is the antethesis of capitalism, if it's not socialism?

 

[Ravi]

It also defines socialism as an econimic system artard.

And a political theory.

I think you are splitting hairs.

Capitalism is an economic model that is embraced by several differing political philosophies, only one of which is the right wing. You make it sound like they own it.

 

[Ravi]

Again, if I'm wrong, then tell me what economic model is the antethesis of capitalism, if it's not socialism?

What the right wing truly believes, not sure if there is a word for it. Kill 'em all and let God sort it out.

 

[jillian]

Again, if I'm wrong, then tell me what economic model is the antethesis of capitalism, if it's not socialism?

communism... not socialism

 

[manifold]

And a political theory.

I think you are splitting hairs.

Capitalism is an economic model that is embraced by several differing political philosophies, only one of which is the right wing. You make it sound like they own it.

You're the one splitting hairs. I'm just being honest and objective.

Yes, capitalism is an economic model that is embraced by alternate political philosophies. Socialism is definitely not one of them because socialism offers it's own economic model that stands in direct contrast to capitalism. I honestly don't know where your reluctance to acknowledge this simple and obvious fact is coming from.

 

[manifold]

communism... not socialism

I'll entertain that notion if you can adequately explain the difference.

 

[manifold]

What the right wing truly believes, not sure if there is a word for it. Kill 'em all and let God sort it out.

Again, you're responding in a manner that I've come to expect from RetardedGaySgt. Most of what those labeled "right wing" stand for has nothing to do with left-right economic ideology. Just like most of what those labeled "liberal" stand for has nothing to do with liberal-authoritarian philosophy.

 

[Ravi]

You're the one splitting hairs. I'm just being honest and objective.

Yes, capitalism is an economic model that is embraced by alternate political philosophies. Socialism is definitely not one of them because socialism offers it's own economic model that stands in direct contrast to capitalism. I honestly don't know where your reluctance to acknowledge this simple and obvious fact is coming from.

But we weren't talking about socialism way back when. Capitalism is also a liberal philosophy. You are the one that is intent on assigning it to the right wing. That makes no sense to me.

 

[Ravi]

Again, you're responding in a manner that I've come to expect from RetardedGaySgt. Most of what those labeled "right wing" stand for has nothing to do with left-right economic ideology. Just like most of what those labeled "liberal" stand for has nothing to do with liberal-authoritarian philosophy.

Perhaps we have a different definition of right wing.

 

[jillian]

I'll entertain that notion if you can adequately explain the difference.

Fair enough.... per the following, communism sought to create a dynamic specifically intended to destroy communism. Socialism or at least mixed socialist/capitalist societies have no intention of destroying capitalism, but rather attempt to minimize the effects of laissez faire capitalism.

Communism, a theory and system of social and political organization that was a major force in world politics for much of the 20th century. As a political movement, communism sought to overthrow capitalism through a workers’ revolution and establish a system in which property is owned by the community as a whole rather than by individuals. In theory, communism would create a classless society of abundance and freedom, in which all people enjoy equal social and economic status. In practice, communist regimes have taken the form of coercive, authoritarian governments that cared little for the plight of the working class and sought above all else to preserve their own hold on power

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761572241/communism.html