Why is it?

[Mikeoxenormous]

Today Oct 11th 2016 the temperature outside was well below average at 41 degrees F. Now we all know from the global warming zelots that the Earth(Earf for inner city folks) has been warming up year after year because of the increase of CO2. So where did the cold temperature come from? Will this cold temperature be added to the year average, which the zelots were saying "the hottest summer ever recorded"?

 

[JoeB131]

Today Oct 11th 2016 the temperature outside was well below average at 41 degrees F. Now we all know from the global warming zelots that the Earth(Earf for inner city folks) has been warming up year after year because of the increase of CO2. So where did the cold temperature come from? Will this cold temperature be added to the year average, which the zelots were saying "the hottest summer ever recorded"?

if you don't understand the difference between Climate and Weather, I'm not sure there is much that can be done for you.

Here', let me help you out.

July 2016 Was Earth's Warmest Month on Record

 

[Alt_Ascendant]

Today Oct 11th 2016 the temperature outside was well below average at 41 degrees F. Now we all know from the global warming zelots that the Earth(Earf for inner city folks) has been warming up year after year because of the increase of CO2. So where did the cold temperature come from? Will this cold temperature be added to the year average, which the zelots were saying "the hottest summer ever recorded"?

Global warming is an ignorant leftist myth. Climate Change, on the other hand, has some truth behind it. Even then, it is still not as bad as leftists make it out to be.

 

[Moonglow]

Today Oct 11th 2016 the temperature outside was well below average at 41 degrees F. Now we all know from the global warming zelots that the Earth(Earf for inner city folks) has been warming up year after year because of the increase of CO2. So where did the cold temperature come from? Will this cold temperature be added to the year average, which the zelots were saying "the hottest summer ever recorded"?

never heard of a mean average..

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Today Oct 11th 2016 the temperature outside was well below average at 41 degrees F. Now we all know from the global warming zelots that the Earth(Earf for inner city folks) has been warming up year after year because of the increase of CO2. So where did the cold temperature come from? Will this cold temperature be added to the year average, which the zelots were saying "the hottest summer ever recorded"?

if you don't understand the difference between Climate and Weather, I'm not sure there is much that can be done for you.

Here', let me help you out.

July 2016 Was Earth's Warmest Month on Record

Hey Joe, did you know when the Earth was first created that the Temperature at the surface was molten? But then over a long period of time, the planet started cooling? Then about 10,000 years ago, there was an Ice Age, where the Earth reached temperatures below zero for a long while? Then after that the planet started warming causing the glaciers to recede, was this do to man made CO2? Back in 1977, Time magazine was saying that with cooling a "New Ice Age" was happening. People were in a panic because the predictions were major hurricanes, floods, crazy snows, droughts in the west, sorta like what is happening today. Joe, why is it, idiots like you don't understand that POLITICIANS cant save us, but take our money to make themselves UBER rich, while putting the average Joe in the poor farm? Why is the liberal motto about Global Warming "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO" ? They can burn tons of CO2, but we are supposed to cut back? Joe is just another dumbass willingly giving up his taxes so liberal elites can be UBER WEALTHY.


The Paris Climate Talks Will Emit 300,000 Tons of CO2, by Our Math. Hope It’s Worth It

The 2015 Paris talks (formally known as the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change twenty-first session of the Conference of the Parties and the eleventh session of the Conference of the Parties serving as the meeting of the Parties to the Kyoto Protocol—but let’s just call them the Paris talks) are going to draw about 22,000 official attendees.

 

[Onyx]

Lol, the worse argument.

Proponents claim it is hot outside and opposition claim it is cold outside. None of you tools actually seems to understand the concept.

 

[SSDD]

Because it is only climate if it is warming...any cooling is only weather.

 

[JoeB131]

Hey Joe, did you know when the Earth was first created that the Temperature at the surface was molten? But then over a long period of time, the planet started cooling?

That's the key thing. LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

The temperatures are going up so fast, the planet doesn't have time to adapt... that's the problem.

But you don't believe in that dun-der science, Cleetus. They don't talk about none of that stuff in the Bible.

Back in 1977, Time magazine was saying that with cooling a "New Ice Age" was happening.

In ONE ARTICLE.

Meanwhile, the scientific consensus, even back then, was that global warming was a real thing.

About That 1970s Global Cooling...

Allow me to summarize. It is true that all this news did appear in the popular mass media and TV shows like In Search Of, but believe it or not, the news media had the same proclivity then as they do now for reporting what's new and sensational. Climatologists had known for a long time about the greenhouse effect and the warming produced by carbon dioxide, but until the latter half of the 20th century, nobody had really been able to put together predictive models. Then in the late 1960s, the University of Washington published the cooling effects produced by sulfate aerosols in the atmosphere, which reflected solar radiation away from the Earth. This was a profound new twist, and suddenly everyone started testing for sulfate aerosols, an industrial pollutant which is also the cause of acid rain. You may remember that from the 1970s as well. Cooling effects were added onto climate models, and for a time, a number of climatologists weren't sure which effect was going to be the more significant. That was all it took to make a sensational headline, and the mass media ensured that we've have shocking fears to keep us alarmed throughout the decade. But beneath the surface, the response of mainstream climatologists was more measured.

 

[SSDD]

Hey Joe, did you know when the Earth was first created that the Temperature at the surface was molten? But then over a long period of time, the planet started cooling?

That's the key thing. LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

The temperatures are going up so fast, the planet doesn't have time to adapt... that's the problem.

But you don't believe in that dun-der science, Cleetus. They don't talk about none of that stuff in the Bible.

Back in 1977, Time magazine was saying that with cooling a "New Ice Age" was happening.

In ONE ARTICLE.

Meanwhile, the scientific consensus, even back then, was that global warming was a real thing.

About That 1970s Global Cooling...

Allow me to summarize. It is true that all this news did appear in the popular mass media and TV shows like In Search Of, but believe it or not, the news media had the same proclivity then as they do now for reporting what's new and sensational. Climatologists had known for a long time about the greenhouse effect and the warming produced by carbon dioxide, but until the latter half of the 20th century, nobody had really been able to put together predictive models. Then in the late 1960s, the University of Washington published the cooling effects produced by sulfate aerosols in the atmosphere, which reflected solar radiation away from the Earth. This was a profound new twist, and suddenly everyone started testing for sulfate aerosols, an industrial pollutant which is also the cause of acid rain. You may remember that from the 1970s as well. Cooling effects were added onto climate models, and for a time, a number of climatologists weren't sure which effect was going to be the more significant. That was all it took to make a sensational headline, and the mass media ensured that we've have shocking fears to keep us alarmed throughout the decade. But beneath the surface, the response of mainstream climatologists was more measured.

You know, one of the reasons that climate science is bottoming out on the credibility-O-meter is the fact that they are constantly trying to cover up their past mistakes. Most branches of science willingly admit past errors and describe how those mistakes led to new discoveries and furthered the knowledge in the field...not so with climate pseudoscience because it is political in nature...

I am sure that you believe that there was no global cooling scare because you have been told that it is all just hype fabricated by modern warmers...I was there and was not a child at the time...and I remember the dire warnings of famine...and global death due to the earth cooling. But rather than take my word for it, let me provide you with some of the papers published at the time...this isn't the media sensationalizing...who at that time, didn't have a 24/7/365 news cycle to fill, this is what they were being told by the experts.

And you probably weren't old enough to have been there...or remember if you were, but there was serious talk of spreading soot on the polar ice caps in an attempt to cause melting...

NOAA 1974

http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/journals/noaa/QC851U461974oct.pdf#page=5

In the Sahelian zone of Africa south of the Sahara, the countries of Chad, The Gambia, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Senegal, and Upper Volta are enduring a drought that in some areas has been going on for more than six years now, following some 40 previous years of abundant monsoon rainfall. And the drought is spreading—eastward into Ehtiopia and southward into Dahomey, Egypt, Guinea, Kenya, Nigeria, Somalia, Tanzania, and Zaire. … Many climatologists have associated this drought and other recent weather anomalies with a global cooling trend and changes in atmospheric circulation which, if prolonged, pose serious threats to major food-producing regions of the world. … Annual average temperatures over the Northern Hemisphere increased rather dramatically from about 1890 through 1940, but have been falling ever since. The total change has averaged about one-half degree Centigrade, with the greatest cooling in higher latitudes. A drop of only one or two degrees Centigrade in the annual average temperature at higher latitudes can shorten the growing season so that some crops have to be abandoned. … [T]he average growing season in England is already two weeks shorter than it was before 1950. Since the late 1950’s, Iceland’s hay crop yield has dropped about 25 percent, while pack ice in waters around Iceland and Greenland ports is becoming the hazard to navigation it was during the 17th and 18th centuries. … Some climatologists think that if the current cooling trend continues, drought will occur more frequently in India—indeed, through much of Asia, the world’s hungriest continent. … Some climatologists think that the present cooling trend may be the start of a slide into another period of major glaciation, popularly called an “ice age.”

U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Report 1974 (you think the CIA was in the business of sensationalizing?)

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/environment/potentialtrends.pdf

“Potential Implications of Trends in World Population, Food Production, and Climate”

According to Dr. Hubert Lamb–an outstanding British climatologist–22 out of 27 forecasting methods he examined predicted a cooling trend through the remainder of this century. A change of 2°-3° F. in average temperature would have an enormous impact. [pg. 28, bottom footnote]

A number of meteorological experts are thinking in terms of a return to a climate like that of the 19th century. This would mean that within a relatively few years (probably less than two decades, assuming the cooling trend began in the 1960’s) there would be brought belts of excess and deficit rainfall in the middle-latitudes; more frequent failure of the monsoons that dominate the Indian sub-continent, south China and western Africa; shorter growing seasons for Canada, northern Russia and north China. Europe could expect to be cooler and wetter. … n periods when climate change [cooling] is underway, violent weather — unseasonal frosts, warm spells, large storms, floods, etc.–is thought to be more common.

Why has the earth cooled? There are three main factors involved affecting how much sunlight reaches the earth and how much is re-radiated into space: volcanic dust, man-made dust, and carbon dioxide . The transparency of the atmosphere to incoming sunlight and heat is affected by dust. The main variable sources of dust are volcanic activity and man-made pollution. In the early part of this century, volcanic activity decreased markedly and this increased transparency; temperatures rose. Bryson estimates that transparency was little affected by man’s activities until about 1930 but that since then, man-caused dust has increased rapidly. And, since the mid-1950’s volcanic activity has again become important.

From NASA

Cimorelli and House 1974

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19750020489.pdf

“Between 1880 and 1940 a net [global] warming of about 0.6°C occurred, and from 1940 to the present our globe experienced a net cooling of 0.3°C. … t has since been found that the rate of temperature increase decreases with increasing CO2 and increases with increasing particulates. Therefore, global particulate loading is of foremost concern. … [A]n increase in man-made global particulates by a factor of 4.0 will initiate an ice-age. In order that we safeguard ourselves and future generations from a self-imposed ice-age it is necessary that we effectively monitor global concentrations of particulate matter.

From the Journal of the Americal Meteorological Society

Angell and Korshover 1978

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0493(1978)106<0755:GTVSMA>2.0.CO;2

[T]he 1976 surface temperature equated the global record for the lowest temperature set in 1964; but even so the trend in global temperature since 1965 has been small compared to the 0.5°C decrease during 1960–65

Now it is interesting to note that if you look at modern records...that decrease has been altered beyond recognition....why?

Schultz 1972

Holocene interglacial migrations of mammals and other vettebrates

The nine-banded armadillos (Dasypus novemcinctus) have been moving northward in the Great Plains region from the late 1800s to the 1950s but now seem to be retreating from their lately acquired northern range. The armadillos have a nontypical homoiothermic blood system which makes them fairly vulnerable to cold climates.

From the Journal of the American Meterological Society

Wendland 1977

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0450(1977)016<0477:TSFRTS>2.0.CO;2

The cooling from about 1950 to 1974 is ~0.3°C (Brinkmann, 1976). Moran (1975) suggests that the recent drought of peninsular Florida is largely due to decreased frequencies of tropical storms, associated with the general atmospheric and oceanic cooling since about 1940 (Wahl and Bryson, 1975).

From the Journal of the American Meterological Society

Nelson, et. al. 1978

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0450(1979)018<0750:NCTIDA>2.0.CO;2

Concern about climatic change and its effects on man has been increasing. Climatic changes affect the production of food and the allocation of energy resources. … Even with the temperature corrections included, Indiana June, July and August mean temperatures showed a decrease of approximately 3°F [-1.7°C] from 1930 to 1976.

And I could go on for quite some time...Literally hundreds of papers were published between the 1960's and the 1980's voiced concern over the possibility of global cooling. I suppose you will believe what your political leanings tell you to believe, but if anyone is interested in seeing more papers from the period..just ask.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Today Oct 11th 2016 the temperature outside was well below average at 41 degrees F. Now we all know from the global warming zelots that the Earth(Earf for inner city folks) has been warming up year after year because of the increase of CO2. So where did the cold temperature come from? Will this cold temperature be added to the year average, which the zelots were saying "the hottest summer ever recorded"?

The ignorance and stupidity of this is remarkable, but comes as no surprise.

 

[JoeB131]

You know, one of the reasons that climate science is bottoming out on the credibility-O-meter is the fact that they are constantly trying to cover up their past mistakes. Most branches of science willingly admit past errors and describe how those mistakes led to new discoveries and furthered the knowledge in the field...not so with climate pseudoscience because it is political in nature...

95% of Climate scientists say humans are responsible for climate change. The opinions of NON-SCIENTISTS are irrelevant in this context.

 

[JoeB131]

I am sure that you believe that there was no global cooling scare because you have been told that it is all just hype fabricated by modern warmers...I was there and was not a child at the time...and I remember the dire warnings of famine...and global death due to the earth cooling. But rather than take my word for it, let me provide you with some of the papers published at the time...this isn't the media sensationalizing...who at that time, didn't have a 24/7/365 news cycle to fill, this is what they were being told by the experts.

I don't believe there was one, because I lived during that time, too. There were people talking about global warming and ozone depletion back then. "New Ice Age" was a fringe view back then... More the stuff of the National Enquirer than the Scientific American.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Today Oct 11th 2016 the temperature outside was well below average at 41 degrees F. Now we all know from the global warming zelots that the Earth(Earf for inner city folks) has been warming up year after year because of the increase of CO2. So where did the cold temperature come from? Will this cold temperature be added to the year average, which the zelots were saying "the hottest summer ever recorded"?

The ignorance and stupidity of this is remarkable, but comes as no surprise.

So in other words, you cannot explain how the well below average temperature of 41 degrees, happened, while the scientific "consensus" says that it should be hotter. Liberals are the most gullible people since the Nazi's of the 1940's. Seig Heil, right Joe?

By the way, it was 41 degrees again today, well below average, once again.

Why cant a liberal tell me where this cold weather is coming from. All they can do is resort to name calling.

 

[JoeB131]

So in other words, you cannot explain how the well below average temperature of 41 degrees, happened, while the scientific "consensus" says that it should be hotter. Liberals are the most gullible people since the Nazi's of the 1940's. Seig Heil, right Joe?

Um, you are responding to Clayton, not me.

But to the point, yesterday in Chicago, it was well into the 70's. Now, that's just weather, and it's well above the norm.

MEANWHILE- We have melting permafrost, the lowest level of artic ice on record, dying coral reefs and a lot of other signs of climate change.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Joe, Joe, Joe, when will you get your head out of Uranus? At one time, people like you would be carrying a sign saying "The end of the earth is near" and be put in a rubber room so you wouldn't hurt yourself, but since Jimmy Carter said that was inhumane, now you are walking free and terrorizing others. Shame you wont wake the fuck up and realize that the liberals are TRUE enemies of the people and want to steal you blind. And they are. Hillary hates you Joe, because you aren't in her inner circle, but she does like your vote.

Experts said Arctic sea ice would melt entirely by September 2016 – they were wrong

As late as this summer, he was still predicting an ice-free September.

Yet, when figures were released for the yearly minimum on September 10, they showed that there was still 1.6 million square miles of sea ice (4.14 square kilometres), which was 21 per cent more than the lowest point in 2012.

Tucker Carlson: Hillary Hates Normal Americans - Brian M. Carey

He was never more spot-on, though, than when he was explaining to all of us normal people that Hillary Rodham Clinton basically hates our guts.
How can he say such a thing?
Because it’s true.
Hillary doesn’t agree with our traditional values.
She wants to bring in more people whose culture runs contrary to our own.
If we don’t vote according to her beliefs, she’s happy to see some judge overturn our wishes.
In short, she doesn’t like us.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, Joe, Joe, when will you get your head out of Uranus? At one time, people like you would be carrying a sign saying "The end of the earth is near" and be put in a rubber room so you wouldn't hurt yourself, but since Jimmy Carter said that was inhumane, now you are walking free and terrorizing others. Shame you wont wake the fuck up and realize that the liberals are TRUE enemies of the people and want to steal you blind. And they are. Hillary hates you Joe, because you aren't in her inner circle, but she does like your vote.

Guy, even Republicans- the honest ones- admit climate change is a problem.

Science isn't partisan, stupid. Either science works a certain way, or it doesn't.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Joe, Joe, Joe, when will you get your head out of Uranus? At one time, people like you would be carrying a sign saying "The end of the earth is near" and be put in a rubber room so you wouldn't hurt yourself, but since Jimmy Carter said that was inhumane, now you are walking free and terrorizing others. Shame you wont wake the fuck up and realize that the liberals are TRUE enemies of the people and want to steal you blind. And they are. Hillary hates you Joe, because you aren't in her inner circle, but she does like your vote.

Guy, even Republicans- the honest ones- admit climate change is a problem.

Science isn't partisan, stupid. Either science works a certain way, or it doesn't.

Climate change is not a problem Joe, it is an event that happens since the beginning of time. AND mankind who is a smidgen on this great planet, must ride along in great times and rough times. I have lived through 2 hurricanes back in the 1960's while living in Florida, yet only this year have we seen a hurricane in 10 years. Dumbasses like you are willing to give up your hard earned money(but still use tax loopholes so you don't pay your fair share) to some liberal smuck who is getting filthy rich and they cant do shit to stop climate change. Which is why Al Gore, who got 1/2 billions dollars, predicted the end of the earth in 2010, and 6 years later he is much wealthier than you Joe, but the climate is still changing. It will continue to change and the politicians will continue to get filthy rich as you continue to goosestep to the liberal Fuhrer. Seig Heil, right Joe?

 

[SSDD]

You know, one of the reasons that climate science is bottoming out on the credibility-O-meter is the fact that they are constantly trying to cover up their past mistakes. Most branches of science willingly admit past errors and describe how those mistakes led to new discoveries and furthered the knowledge in the field...not so with climate pseudoscience because it is political in nature...

95% of Climate scientists say humans are responsible for climate change. The opinions of NON-SCIENTISTS are irrelevant in this context.

That claim in and of itself is bullshit...and yet another reason climate science is not to be trusted....If, ended 95% of scientists are convinced that mankind is causing the global climate to change, the evidence must be overwhelming...so in that vein, I challenge you to provide a single piece of observed, measured, quantified, empirical evidence that supports the claim that mankind is causing the global climate to change with his emissions of so called greenhouse gasses...one single piece of such information from the literal mountain that must exist in order to convince 95% of all climate scientists...and when you find that no such evidence exists...and you can't produce even a single piece...then perhaps you will ask yourself how such consensus can exists based upon zero actual evidence.

 

[SSDD]

I am sure that you believe that there was no global cooling scare because you have been told that it is all just hype fabricated by modern warmers...I was there and was not a child at the time...and I remember the dire warnings of famine...and global death due to the earth cooling. But rather than take my word for it, let me provide you with some of the papers published at the time...this isn't the media sensationalizing...who at that time, didn't have a 24/7/365 news cycle to fill, this is what they were being told by the experts.

I don't believe there was one, because I lived during that time, too. There were people talking about global warming and ozone depletion back then. "New Ice Age" was a fringe view back then... More the stuff of the National Enquirer than the Scientific American.

Clearly you are lying...there was no buzz among the citizenry... There was no internet then...no 24/7365 news cycle, etc... and people didn't have access to published papers...if you remember it being a normal topic of discussion back then,then you are a liar...

As to people talking about ozone depletion...the scare didn't even start till 1985....so again...I call bullshit on your response.

 

[SSDD]

Joe, Joe, Joe, when will you get your head out of Uranus? At one time, people like you would be carrying a sign saying "The end of the earth is near" and be put in a rubber room so you wouldn't hurt yourself, but since Jimmy Carter said that was inhumane, now you are walking free and terrorizing others. Shame you wont wake the fuck up and realize that the liberals are TRUE enemies of the people and want to steal you blind. And they are. Hillary hates you Joe, because you aren't in her inner circle, but she does like your vote.

Guy, even Republicans- the honest ones- admit climate change is a problem.

Science isn't partisan, stupid. Either science works a certain way, or it doesn't.

It should be interesting to see what passes for observed, measured, quantified, empirical evidence supporting the AGW hypothesis in your mind....if you bother to even try to answer the challenge...most warmers simply run away and pretend they never saw the challenge.