Why is it costing 28 billion over 10 years if not subsidized at all!!!!

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    Also does the Trump Admin know about Cobra??

    Please explain what Cobra has to do with it.
     
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    Most people that age would likely never need anything more than that.

    You do understand the concept of insurance, don't you? Or maybe that's your problem.
     
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    That concept is difficult for an authoritarian to grasp.
     
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    You know that that's a $2 trillion savings over current expenditures right?
     
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    Because we all know when the Federal government starts spending, costs go down.
    Just look at college tuition.
    DERP!
     
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    No please explain it to me? It shouldn't cost the gov nothing as they are not offering any subsidies.
     
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    Even Bernie Sanders plan of insurance for all was shown to save money.
     
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    Also does the Trump Admin know about Cobra??

    Please explain what Cobra has to do with it.
     
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    There is nothing complicated to it. If, for example, everyone with a driver's license paid a fair charge into a collective system for his/her insurance, the amount of money would be very significant. With no profit to cover, there would be no problem fulfilling resultant actuarial obligations. At the same time, there would never be any doubt that anyone behind a steering wheel would have at least the legal minimum of protection. Those who wanted more could pay a private insurance for extras.
    With health care, it's even simpler. The U.S. spends almost twice per capita what the French do, and 25% more than the Swiss (who are in second place). In 2016, that was over $10300 in America, about $853/month. Even by just reducing that cost the at least 20% insurance companies represent would get close to Switzerland.
     
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    We spend ~3.5 trillion annually when you combine personal expenditures, VA care, Medicare, and Medicaid. Not even adjusting for inflation, this is cheaper in the long run.

    I'm deeply suspicious of any centralized government program. But if conservative lobbyists are going to dissuade the American public from single payer, they will have to do a better job on math.

    Or keep defunding public schools.

    Conservative Think-Tanker Accidentally Argues That Single Payer Could Save Americans $2 Trillion
     
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