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I understand what you are talking about but don't you think that to impose ideas on other peoples is wrong? American society has every right to deal with anything on its land, but why someone has to endure this struggle and its results on their own land?"We" are not fighting. Americans are fighting the Ideological Left and it's religious arm Islam.
Don't mean to offend anyone but can someone explain? But we generally go to a country and has done anything to us and shoot and kill them. My view is that they're defending themselves, how does killing someone who did nothing to us make someone honorable or a hero? I know we say "risking ours lives for our freedom". If Syria came over here shoot at us and our family wouldnt you shoot back? The only ones taking our freedom away with laws are our politicans. What freedoms could the people we fight possibly take from us?
I understand what you are talking about but don't you think that to impose ideas on other peoples is wrong? American society has every right to deal with anything on its land, but why someone has to endure this struggle and its results on their own land?"We" are not fighting. Americans are fighting the Ideological Left and it's religious arm Islam.
So the US had no business invading Germany?I understand what you are talking about but don't you think that to impose ideas on other peoples is wrong? American society has every right to deal with anything on its land, but why someone has to endure this struggle and its results on their own land?
This ^^^POS isn't worth responding to seriously.Don't mean to offend anyone but can someone explain? But we generally go to a country and has done anything to us and shoot and kill them. My view is that they're defending themselves, how does killing someone who did nothing to us make someone honorable or a hero? I know we say "risking ours lives for our freedom". If Syria came over here shoot at us and our family wouldnt you shoot back? The only ones taking our freedom away with laws are our politicans. What freedoms could the people we fight possibly take from us?
That was a different time, under much different circumstances. It's difficult to compare then and now. That was part of a "world war", and not isolated countries engaged for basically religious reasons. We have "groups" to deal with, and not so much countries as such. We only wish that it was as simple as countries and not terrorist groups. The ones now don't wear uniforms that represent a country.So the US had no business invading Germany?I understand what you are talking about but don't you think that to impose ideas on other peoples is wrong? American society has every right to deal with anything on its land, but why someone has to endure this struggle and its results on their own land?
More left wing disinformation.Neither are 60,000 soldiers who died in Vet Nam, 5,000 that died in Iraq, and the count continues in Afghanistan. Besides, destroying Iraq didn't solve the issue, nor did it punish the ones responsible for 9/11.Why is it called "fighting for our freedom"? What freedom can someone take from us half a world awa
3,000 former World Trade Center workers were not available for comment.
The poster posed some legitimate questions. Those questions certainly merit thought. Yes, we have been known to trump-up reasons to go to war. But, usually, at least in the past 50 years, those reasons mainly consist of two words, "Freedom" and "Democracy". Yet, we have neither established freedom nor democracy anywhere. And, any losses or threats to our own freedom and democracy, have come from within.This ^^^POS isn't worth responding to seriously.Don't mean to offend anyone but can someone explain? But we generally go to a country and has done anything to us and shoot and kill them. My view is that they're defending themselves, how does killing someone who did nothing to us make someone honorable or a hero? I know we say "risking ours lives for our freedom". If Syria came over here shoot at us and our family wouldnt you shoot back? The only ones taking our freedom away with laws are our politicans. What freedoms could the people we fight possibly take from us?
What was the religious reason we went in to Afghanistan and Iraq? We had coalition forces and the motives were the same, stop the nutbags from taking over. There, or here.That was a different time, under much different circumstances. It's difficult to compare then and now. That was part of a "world war", and not isolated countries engaged for basically religious reasons. We have "groups" to deal with, and not so much countries as such. We only wish that it was as simple as countries and not terrorist groups. The ones now don't wear uniforms that represent a country.So the US had no business invading Germany?I understand what you are talking about but don't you think that to impose ideas on other peoples is wrong? American society has every right to deal with anything on its land, but why someone has to endure this struggle and its results on their own land?
Nonsense. Go to Germany or Japan and get back to us.The poster posed some legitimate questions. Those questions certainly merit thought. Yes, we have been known to trump-up reasons to go to war. But, usually, at least in the past 50 years, those reasons mainly consist of two words, "Freedom" and "Democracy". Yet, we have neither established freedom nor democracy anywhere. And, any losses or threats to our own freedom and democracy, have come from within.
What is false or misleading about it? Disinformation? How so? Please explain. Thanks. ( I'm not a "left wing", nor am I associated with any wing, thank you. )More left wing disinformation.Neither are 60,000 soldiers who died in Vet Nam, 5,000 that died in Iraq, and the count continues in Afghanistan. Besides, destroying Iraq didn't solve the issue, nor did it punish the ones responsible for 9/11.Why is it called "fighting for our freedom"? What freedom can someone take from us half a world awa
3,000 former World Trade Center workers were not available for comment.
What is "nonsense" about it? Why should myself, or anyone, go to those countries? Please explain. Thanks.Nonsense. Go to Germany or Japan and get back to us.The poster posed some legitimate questions. Those questions certainly merit thought. Yes, we have been known to trump-up reasons to go to war. But, usually, at least in the past 50 years, those reasons mainly consist of two words, "Freedom" and "Democracy". Yet, we have neither established freedom nor democracy anywhere. And, any losses or threats to our own freedom and democracy, have come from within.
The poster posed some legitimate questions. Those questions certainly merit thought. Yes, we have been known to trump-up reasons to go to war. But, usually, at least in the past 50 years, those reasons mainly consist of two words, "Freedom" and "Democracy". Yet, we have neither established freedom nor democracy anywhere. And, any losses or threats to our own freedom and democracy, have come from within.[/QUOTE]. The poster is stating a lie as fact. We did not invade Iraq because of The attack on 9/11.[
This ^^^POS isn't worth responding to seriously.
We did NOT go to Afghanistan for religious reasons, and I never ever said that we did. We did NOT go to Iraq for religious reasons, and I never ever said that we did. Yes, we went in an effort to stop terrorists, I agree. Why were the terrorists fighting?What was the religious reason we went in to Afghanistan and Iraq? We had coalition forces and the motives were the same, stop the nutbags from taking over. There, or here.That was a different time, under much different circumstances. It's difficult to compare then and now. That was part of a "world war", and not isolated countries engaged for basically religious reasons. We have "groups" to deal with, and not so much countries as such. We only wish that it was as simple as countries and not terrorist groups. The ones now don't wear uniforms that represent a country.So the US had no business invading Germany?I understand what you are talking about but don't you think that to impose ideas on other peoples is wrong? American society has every right to deal with anything on its land, but why someone has to endure this struggle and its results on their own land?
If it isn't obvious it would be a waste of time.What is "nonsense" about it? Why should myself, or anyone, go to those countries? Please explain. Thanks.Nonsense. Go to Germany or Japan and get back to us.The poster posed some legitimate questions. Those questions certainly merit thought. Yes, we have been known to trump-up reasons to go to war. But, usually, at least in the past 50 years, those reasons mainly consist of two words, "Freedom" and "Democracy". Yet, we have neither established freedom nor democracy anywhere. And, any losses or threats to our own freedom and democracy, have come from within.
Very poor dodge. Obviously you have nothing to contribute but one-liners consisting of "nothing". Does it give you a thrill? Does it make you feel better? Does it make you feel important and intelligent? Just curious. Hey, I just gave you an opening to start the name calling and personal attacks.If it isn't obvious it would be a waste of time.What is "nonsense" about it? Why should myself, or anyone, go to those countries? Please explain. Thanks.Nonsense. Go to Germany or Japan and get back to us.The poster posed some legitimate questions. Those questions certainly merit thought. Yes, we have been known to trump-up reasons to go to war. But, usually, at least in the past 50 years, those reasons mainly consist of two words, "Freedom" and "Democracy". Yet, we have neither established freedom nor democracy anywhere. And, any losses or threats to our own freedom and democracy, have come from within.
While president Bush's intentions were good that we might turn them into democracies, I tend to agree with you. We don't need to involve ourselves in nation building, what we need to do is turn those shit holes into glass parking lots and tell the libertarians and progressives to go fuck themselves.The thing to remember here is that the United States is seriously infected with Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principle.
As a result, the US has not 'Gone to War' to defeat an enemy, since WW2. A war that lasted, for the US, from December 7th, 1941, until mid 1945... .
Now... from the 1940, US Army, alone... by itself went from ~200,000 to nearly 9 million troops.
As it stands now... the US Military has roughly the same man power is it did in 1941... or roughly 1.5 million troops in uniform.
Where the US were to rid ourselves of the Leftist infection, and consequently use our Military for its only legitimate purpose, which is to kill those who have harmed us and decidedly NOT to 'win the hearts and minds' of the citizens of those who harmed us..., we would have neither the trouble, nor expense, of prolonged military campaigns and the subsequent issues that come with such.
We could easily have accomplished the necessary goals in Iraq and Afghanistan, by simply having told Turkey we would be using their airspace and to not launch anything that they don't want shot down... providing our means to pinch the Iraqi Military... eviscerating it in a matter of a couple of weeks. Rubble-izing Baghdad ... and leaving a massive bounty on the head of President Hussein on the carpet of fliers we left behind warning the Iraqis that 'if we have to return to get him, we will not be so nice next time...'.
Afghanistan, should have remained a heavily supported special operations campaign. We should never have tried to set up a government in that shit-hole. The people there are simply not inclined to be governed and there's no reason why they should be. It doesn't take much government to look after goats, rocks and dirt.
