Why is Congress Trying to Weaken the Presidency?

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why is Congress trying to weaken the Presidency?

Barr Says Trump's Presidency's Agendas Are Being Hampered by Lower Court Rulings​

Source: Trump's agenda hampered by troubling number of lower court injunctions, Barr says

Attorney General William Barr on Tuesday said he has noticed a troubling trend of
nationwide injunctions issued by lower courts that have taken their toll on President
Trump’s agenda and threaten the political process for future administrations.Barr, who
has been accused by Democrats of protecting Trump after the release of the Mueller
report, told the American Law Institute that there is a new trend of judicial "willingness"
to review executive action, which injects courts into the political process.

He pointed to the district court in California that in January 2018 issued a temporary
injunction to block the Trump administration from ending Deferred Action for Childhood
Arrivals, or DACA. DACA has protected about 800,000 people who were brought to the
U.S. illegally as children or came with families who overstayed visas. The Obama-era
program includes hundreds of thousands of college-age students.

U. S. District Judge William Alsup said at the time that lawyers in favor of Daca
demonstrated that the immigrants "were likely to suffer serious, irreparable harm"
without court action. The judge also said the lawyers have a strong chance of
succeeding at trial.
The White House was swift to criticize these lower court injunctions and called
this particular decision "outrageous." USVP Mike Pence recently said the
administration will ask the Supreme Court to bar them.

"So what have these nationwide injunctions wrought? Dreamers remain in limbo the
political process has been pre-empted, and we have had over a year of bitter political
division that included a government shutdown of unprecedented length," Barr said.
Barr said nationwide injunctions violate the separation of powers. He said that since
Trump took office, there have been 37 nationwide injunctions - more than one a month -
against his office and he said there is likely no end in sight. He said by comparison,
there were two instances where district courts issued an injunction in President Obama's
first two years.

The Associated Press wrote that this is "the latest example of Barr moving to embrace
Trump's political talking points." Its report pointed out that Trump criticized these
rulings at a rally earlier this month saying "activist judges who issue nationwide
injunctions on their personal beliefs, undermine democracy and threaten the rule of law."

Barr has brushed aside criticism from Democrats that he is in the President's pocket.
He told the Wall Street Journal that he is defending the presidency, not Trump.
"If you destroy the presidency and make it an errand boy for Congress, we're going to be
a much weaker and more divided nation," he said.
AP contributed to this report.
​

What do you think about Congress weakening the Presidency? How can we stop this impingement upon the Separation of Powers?

Right now, many of us are wondering what further tricks Nancy Pelosi and her Congressional minions, hungry for her endowment of funding for their campaigns, will be using stolen FBI documents to twist the arm of more Obama-appointed lower court bleatings.

I hold the Democrats responsible for taking President Trump away from his responsibilities to hold governments like North Korea from vaporizing San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland Oregon with atomic weaponry China has funneled to him sans information what he actually does to the United States may be done to him.

Congress, get the hell off President Trump's restoration of America's refined leadership in the world that has attracted jealousy and hatred from governments with a history of eating their own people with starvation, with sarin gas, and other means of genocide.

Congress checking the power of the executive as required by the Constitution is perfectly appropriate and warranted, in no manner "weakening" the presidency.

 

[Mac1958]

Why is Congress trying to weaken the Presidency?

Same reason the GOP did all it could to wreck Obama: Political advantage. Party over country.

Obviously.

A pox on both houses.
.

 

[Foxfyre]

Why is Congress trying to weaken the Presidency?

Barr Says Trump's Presidency's Agendas Are Being Hampered by Lower Court Rulings​

Source: Trump's agenda hampered by troubling number of lower court injunctions, Barr says

Attorney General William Barr on Tuesday said he has noticed a troubling trend of
nationwide injunctions issued by lower courts that have taken their toll on President
Trump’s agenda and threaten the political process for future administrations.Barr, who
has been accused by Democrats of protecting Trump after the release of the Mueller
report, told the American Law Institute that there is a new trend of judicial "willingness"
to review executive action, which injects courts into the political process.

He pointed to the district court in California that in January 2018 issued a temporary
injunction to block the Trump administration from ending Deferred Action for Childhood
Arrivals, or DACA. DACA has protected about 800,000 people who were brought to the
U.S. illegally as children or came with families who overstayed visas. The Obama-era
program includes hundreds of thousands of college-age students.

U. S. District Judge William Alsup said at the time that lawyers in favor of Daca
demonstrated that the immigrants "were likely to suffer serious, irreparable harm"
without court action. The judge also said the lawyers have a strong chance of
succeeding at trial.
The White House was swift to criticize these lower court injunctions and called
this particular decision "outrageous." USVP Mike Pence recently said the
administration will ask the Supreme Court to bar them.

"So what have these nationwide injunctions wrought? Dreamers remain in limbo the
political process has been pre-empted, and we have had over a year of bitter political
division that included a government shutdown of unprecedented length," Barr said.
Barr said nationwide injunctions violate the separation of powers. He said that since
Trump took office, there have been 37 nationwide injunctions - more than one a month -
against his office and he said there is likely no end in sight. He said by comparison,
there were two instances where district courts issued an injunction in President Obama's
first two years.

The Associated Press wrote that this is "the latest example of Barr moving to embrace
Trump's political talking points." Its report pointed out that Trump criticized these
rulings at a rally earlier this month saying "activist judges who issue nationwide
injunctions on their personal beliefs, undermine democracy and threaten the rule of law."

Barr has brushed aside criticism from Democrats that he is in the President's pocket.
He told the Wall Street Journal that he is defending the presidency, not Trump.
"If you destroy the presidency and make it an errand boy for Congress, we're going to be
a much weaker and more divided nation," he said.
AP contributed to this report.
​

What do you think about Congress weakening the Presidency? How can we stop this impingement upon the Separation of Powers?

Right now, many of us are wondering what further tricks Nancy Pelosi and her Congressional minions, hungry for her endowment of funding for their campaigns, will be using stolen FBI documents to twist the arm of more Obama-appointed lower court bleatings.

I hold the Democrats responsible for taking President Trump away from his responsibilities to hold governments like North Korea from vaporizing San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland Oregon with atomic weaponry China has funneled to him sans information what he actually does to the United States may be done to him.

Congress, get the hell off President Trump's restoration of America's refined leadership in the world that has attracted jealousy and hatred from governments with a history of eating their own people with starvation, with sarin gas, and other means of genocide.

It is more than just weakening the Presidency. There are those in the Democratic Party and elsewhere, including their surrogate media, and those working in government who are helping them, who have initiated what amounts to a bloodless coup of a lawfully elected and installed President of the United States.

God willing they will be stopped and exposed for the truly evil thing they are doing. If they are not, we will never again have the America that was a shining and magnificent great experiment of liberty, benevolence, prosperity, and freedom to be who and what a person wishes to aspire to be so long as the rights of others are not trampled.

Pray for our President and those who support him. And pray for those in Congress to be smitten by conscience so that they are inspired to do their job and to do the right thing. The right thing is to not be hateful, destructive, power mad, and vindictive because they didn't win the White House.

Your guy's Own department started the investigation.

But he didn't choose a team of all staunch Trump-hating, Hillary loving Democrats to do the legwork on the investigation. There wasn't a Republican or conservative leaning person in the entire group. Most had contributed to Hillary and/or the Democrat Party. Wiessman, Mueller's number 2 guy and attack pit bull, attended Hillary's victory party that she didn't show up for. And they left a wreckage of human lives--good reputations needlessly dragged through the mud, people needlessly bankrupted, family members harassed and their lives made miserable, people charged with 'crimes' pretty much manufactured by the Mueller team to try to extort information from people, etc. Two years of that and Mueller comes up with bupkis.

I haven't confirmed it, but it has been said that Weissman wrote the Part II of the Mueller Report and deliberately wrote it to infer the President may have obstructed justice which they couldn't flat out say because they had zero evidence of that.

 

[beautress]

Demmies passing the white house had this to say...

Dey butts, where President Trump is concerned.​

 

[Foxfyre]

Why is Congress trying to weaken the Presidency?

Barr Says Trump's Presidency's Agendas Are Being Hampered by Lower Court Rulings​

Source: Trump's agenda hampered by troubling number of lower court injunctions, Barr says

Attorney General William Barr on Tuesday said he has noticed a troubling trend of
nationwide injunctions issued by lower courts that have taken their toll on President
Trump’s agenda and threaten the political process for future administrations.Barr, who
has been accused by Democrats of protecting Trump after the release of the Mueller
report, told the American Law Institute that there is a new trend of judicial "willingness"
to review executive action, which injects courts into the political process.

He pointed to the district court in California that in January 2018 issued a temporary
injunction to block the Trump administration from ending Deferred Action for Childhood
Arrivals, or DACA. DACA has protected about 800,000 people who were brought to the
U.S. illegally as children or came with families who overstayed visas. The Obama-era
program includes hundreds of thousands of college-age students.

U. S. District Judge William Alsup said at the time that lawyers in favor of Daca
demonstrated that the immigrants "were likely to suffer serious, irreparable harm"
without court action. The judge also said the lawyers have a strong chance of
succeeding at trial.
The White House was swift to criticize these lower court injunctions and called
this particular decision "outrageous." USVP Mike Pence recently said the
administration will ask the Supreme Court to bar them.

"So what have these nationwide injunctions wrought? Dreamers remain in limbo the
political process has been pre-empted, and we have had over a year of bitter political
division that included a government shutdown of unprecedented length," Barr said.
Barr said nationwide injunctions violate the separation of powers. He said that since
Trump took office, there have been 37 nationwide injunctions - more than one a month -
against his office and he said there is likely no end in sight. He said by comparison,
there were two instances where district courts issued an injunction in President Obama's
first two years.

The Associated Press wrote that this is "the latest example of Barr moving to embrace
Trump's political talking points." Its report pointed out that Trump criticized these
rulings at a rally earlier this month saying "activist judges who issue nationwide
injunctions on their personal beliefs, undermine democracy and threaten the rule of law."

Barr has brushed aside criticism from Democrats that he is in the President's pocket.
He told the Wall Street Journal that he is defending the presidency, not Trump.
"If you destroy the presidency and make it an errand boy for Congress, we're going to be
a much weaker and more divided nation," he said.
AP contributed to this report.
​

What do you think about Congress weakening the Presidency? How can we stop this impingement upon the Separation of Powers?

Right now, many of us are wondering what further tricks Nancy Pelosi and her Congressional minions, hungry for her endowment of funding for their campaigns, will be using stolen FBI documents to twist the arm of more Obama-appointed lower court bleatings.

I hold the Democrats responsible for taking President Trump away from his responsibilities to hold governments like North Korea from vaporizing San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland Oregon with atomic weaponry China has funneled to him sans information what he actually does to the United States may be done to him.

Congress, get the hell off President Trump's restoration of America's refined leadership in the world that has attracted jealousy and hatred from governments with a history of eating their own people with starvation, with sarin gas, and other means of genocide.

Well hello there! The Founding fathers intended that the Executive Branch be the weakest part of our Govt.. congress has the power to make laws and the power of the purse. The President was intended to function as CiC and exercise diplomacy--and enforce those laws that Congress passed via the Justice Dept..The power of the veto was intended to be the only formal input into the lawmaking process--everything else was the 'bully pulpit'. The growing strength of the Presidency can be traced to 2 things..one is the Leadership exercised by the President in time of war..martial law and the sweeping Powers exercised by Lincoln, Wilson and FDR played a part.
IMO..the inability of Congress to act responsibly is the overriding reason..factionalism and the increasing use of the power of Executive Orders by frustrated Chief Executives. The Presidency NEEDS trimming----it was NEVER intended to be a reflection of social or cultural values! The President is supposed to enforce and obey the laws..all of them--whether or not he agrees with them. If Trump had a backbone he would deport every illegal he could get his hands on..because it is the law--until Congress changes it. But getting reelected and ensuring that his faction wins has become more important than enforcing the law.

It isn't quite that simple. The President could ruthlessly and mercilessly round up and deport every non citizen who doesn't hold a valid visa or green card and start machine gunning the flood that is pouring over the border and that would be enforcing the law. But even if he was that kind of person, and he isn't, he wisely knows he would lose the heart and minds of the American people in the process. Much better to physically stop as much of the flood as possible and urge Congress to pass laws so that the flood won't want to spend the considerable cash and take the considerable risks to be here. And most of those already here would go home.

President Trump is pushing for exactly that. It is the Democrats and the others of the permanent political class refuse to do their jobs in that regard.

But again separation of powers was built into the Constitution for a reason to dilute the powers of each branch of government as a check and balance against totalitarianism gaining any kind of foothold. And historically executive privilege has allowed the President to not reveal sensitive negotiations or situations that would jeopardize national security or otherwise not be in the best interests of the country. And I believe the first President to exercise that authority was President George Washington.

And even back then there was discord over where congressional powers ended and Presidential powers began. All this is nothing new.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Why is Congress trying to weaken the Presidency?

Barr Says Trump's Presidency's Agendas Are Being Hampered by Lower Court Rulings​

Source: Trump's agenda hampered by troubling number of lower court injunctions, Barr says

Attorney General William Barr on Tuesday said he has noticed a troubling trend of
nationwide injunctions issued by lower courts that have taken their toll on President
Trump’s agenda and threaten the political process for future administrations.Barr, who
has been accused by Democrats of protecting Trump after the release of the Mueller
report, told the American Law Institute that there is a new trend of judicial "willingness"
to review executive action, which injects courts into the political process.

He pointed to the district court in California that in January 2018 issued a temporary
injunction to block the Trump administration from ending Deferred Action for Childhood
Arrivals, or DACA. DACA has protected about 800,000 people who were brought to the
U.S. illegally as children or came with families who overstayed visas. The Obama-era
program includes hundreds of thousands of college-age students.

U. S. District Judge William Alsup said at the time that lawyers in favor of Daca
demonstrated that the immigrants "were likely to suffer serious, irreparable harm"
without court action. The judge also said the lawyers have a strong chance of
succeeding at trial.
The White House was swift to criticize these lower court injunctions and called
this particular decision "outrageous." USVP Mike Pence recently said the
administration will ask the Supreme Court to bar them.

"So what have these nationwide injunctions wrought? Dreamers remain in limbo the
political process has been pre-empted, and we have had over a year of bitter political
division that included a government shutdown of unprecedented length," Barr said.
Barr said nationwide injunctions violate the separation of powers. He said that since
Trump took office, there have been 37 nationwide injunctions - more than one a month -
against his office and he said there is likely no end in sight. He said by comparison,
there were two instances where district courts issued an injunction in President Obama's
first two years.

The Associated Press wrote that this is "the latest example of Barr moving to embrace
Trump's political talking points." Its report pointed out that Trump criticized these
rulings at a rally earlier this month saying "activist judges who issue nationwide
injunctions on their personal beliefs, undermine democracy and threaten the rule of law."

Barr has brushed aside criticism from Democrats that he is in the President's pocket.
He told the Wall Street Journal that he is defending the presidency, not Trump.
"If you destroy the presidency and make it an errand boy for Congress, we're going to be
a much weaker and more divided nation," he said.
AP contributed to this report.
​

What do you think about Congress weakening the Presidency? How can we stop this impingement upon the Separation of Powers?

Right now, many of us are wondering what further tricks Nancy Pelosi and her Congressional minions, hungry for her endowment of funding for their campaigns, will be using stolen FBI documents to twist the arm of more Obama-appointed lower court bleatings.

I hold the Democrats responsible for taking President Trump away from his responsibilities to hold governments like North Korea from vaporizing San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland Oregon with atomic weaponry China has funneled to him sans information what he actually does to the United States may be done to him.

Congress, get the hell off President Trump's restoration of America's refined leadership in the world that has attracted jealousy and hatred from governments with a history of eating their own people with starvation, with sarin gas, and other means of genocide.

Well hello there! The Founding fathers intended that the Executive Branch be the weakest part of our Govt.. congress has the power to make laws and the power of the purse. The President was intended to function as CiC and exercise diplomacy--and enforce those laws that Congress passed via the Justice Dept..The power of the veto was intended to be the only formal input into the lawmaking process--everything else was the 'bully pulpit'. The growing strength of the Presidency can be traced to 2 things..one is the Leadership exercised by the President in time of war..martial law and the sweeping Powers exercised by Lincoln, Wilson and FDR played a part.
IMO..the inability of Congress to act responsibly is the overriding reason..factionalism and the increasing use of the power of Executive Orders by frustrated Chief Executives. The Presidency NEEDS trimming----it was NEVER intended to be a reflection of social or cultural values! The President is supposed to enforce and obey the laws..all of them--whether or not he agrees with them. If Trump had a backbone he would deport every illegal he could get his hands on..because it is the law--until Congress changes it. But getting reelected and ensuring that his faction wins has become more important than enforcing the law.

It isn't quite that simple. The President could ruthlessly and mercilessly round up and deport every non citizen who doesn't hold a valid visa or green card and start machine gunning the flood that is pouring over the border and that would be enforcing the law. But even if he was that kind of person, and he isn't, he wisely knows he would lose the heart and minds of the American people in the process. Much better to physically stop as much of the flood as possible and urge Congress to pass laws so that the flood won't want to spend the considerable cash and take the considerable risks to be here. And most of those already here would go home.

President Trump is pushing for exactly that. It is the Democrats and the others of the permanent political class refuse to do their jobs in that regard.

But again separation of powers was built into the Constitution for a reason to dilute the powers of each branch of government as a check and balance against totalitarianism gaining any kind of foothold. And historically executive privilege has allowed the President to not reveal sensitive negotiations or situations that would jeopardize national security or otherwise not be in the best interests of the country. And I believe the first President to exercise that authority was President George Washington.

And even back then there was discord over where congressional powers ended and Presidential powers began. All this is nothing new.

Fair enough--although I would stop short of the machine gunning and such. I do not think that hearts and minds are uppermost in Trump's mind when he makes these decisions..but rather he is aware of the cold political calculus of such an action. Trump and his Govt. could go after the employers...yet they do not. I think both parties like the immigration issue..to energize their bases..and for the cheap labor. No matter what they say..their long-standing actions, and inaction, in the matter tell a clear tale.

Executive Privilege was not, however, intended as a shield against legitimate investigation--I guess the rub is in the term 'legitimate', eh? Both sides have cried wolf so many, many times...that we grow weary. I'm not a Trump fan..as most know--but I do think we got exactly the President we deserved. The best of us cower in disgust at running for office. Those in office are not seen as serving their country..they're seen as hogs at the trough or demagogues in the making--so that is what we get. Dogmatic fanatics and corrupt users.

Yes, we have always struggled with power and the nature of such. A strong personality gathers power..a weak one losses it..this despite whatever checks and balances we put into place. I do think most historians would agree that the Executive branch has tended to garner more power over the years..and that the checks put into place are fraying..at best. This is at the door of Congress..whose members settle for the personal power of getting elected over the institutional power of standing their ground..and risking their office.

 

[sparky]

Our Congress was bought/sold long ago Beautress , so it all comes down to the higher bidder's moral highground

~S~

 

[BluesLegend]

Assholes on the left have been trying to weaken the presidency and constitution for decades by corrupting the courts with puke liberal judges.

 

[sealybobo]

Why is Congress trying to weaken the Presidency?

Barr Says Trump's Presidency's Agendas Are Being Hampered by Lower Court Rulings​

Source: Trump's agenda hampered by troubling number of lower court injunctions, Barr says

Attorney General William Barr on Tuesday said he has noticed a troubling trend of
nationwide injunctions issued by lower courts that have taken their toll on President
Trump’s agenda and threaten the political process for future administrations.Barr, who
has been accused by Democrats of protecting Trump after the release of the Mueller
report, told the American Law Institute that there is a new trend of judicial "willingness"
to review executive action, which injects courts into the political process.

He pointed to the district court in California that in January 2018 issued a temporary
injunction to block the Trump administration from ending Deferred Action for Childhood
Arrivals, or DACA. DACA has protected about 800,000 people who were brought to the
U.S. illegally as children or came with families who overstayed visas. The Obama-era
program includes hundreds of thousands of college-age students.

U. S. District Judge William Alsup said at the time that lawyers in favor of Daca
demonstrated that the immigrants "were likely to suffer serious, irreparable harm"
without court action. The judge also said the lawyers have a strong chance of
succeeding at trial.
The White House was swift to criticize these lower court injunctions and called
this particular decision "outrageous." USVP Mike Pence recently said the
administration will ask the Supreme Court to bar them.

"So what have these nationwide injunctions wrought? Dreamers remain in limbo the
political process has been pre-empted, and we have had over a year of bitter political
division that included a government shutdown of unprecedented length," Barr said.
Barr said nationwide injunctions violate the separation of powers. He said that since
Trump took office, there have been 37 nationwide injunctions - more than one a month -
against his office and he said there is likely no end in sight. He said by comparison,
there were two instances where district courts issued an injunction in President Obama's
first two years.

The Associated Press wrote that this is "the latest example of Barr moving to embrace
Trump's political talking points." Its report pointed out that Trump criticized these
rulings at a rally earlier this month saying "activist judges who issue nationwide
injunctions on their personal beliefs, undermine democracy and threaten the rule of law."

Barr has brushed aside criticism from Democrats that he is in the President's pocket.
He told the Wall Street Journal that he is defending the presidency, not Trump.
"If you destroy the presidency and make it an errand boy for Congress, we're going to be
a much weaker and more divided nation," he said.
AP contributed to this report.
​

What do you think about Congress weakening the Presidency? How can we stop this impingement upon the Separation of Powers?

Right now, many of us are wondering what further tricks Nancy Pelosi and her Congressional minions, hungry for her endowment of funding for their campaigns, will be using stolen FBI documents to twist the arm of more Obama-appointed lower court bleatings.

I hold the Democrats responsible for taking President Trump away from his responsibilities to hold governments like North Korea from vaporizing San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland Oregon with atomic weaponry China has funneled to him sans information what he actually does to the United States may be done to him.

Congress, get the hell off President Trump's restoration of America's refined leadership in the world that has attracted jealousy and hatred from governments with a history of eating their own people with starvation, with sarin gas, and other means of genocide.

Congress always wants the president to have less power not more.

Why would one branch of government want another branch to have more power?

If you were a senator would you want the president to be more powerful than the senate? Of course not.

 

[Foxfyre]

Why is Congress trying to weaken the Presidency?

Barr Says Trump's Presidency's Agendas Are Being Hampered by Lower Court Rulings​

Source: Trump's agenda hampered by troubling number of lower court injunctions, Barr says

Attorney General William Barr on Tuesday said he has noticed a troubling trend of
nationwide injunctions issued by lower courts that have taken their toll on President
Trump’s agenda and threaten the political process for future administrations.Barr, who
has been accused by Democrats of protecting Trump after the release of the Mueller
report, told the American Law Institute that there is a new trend of judicial "willingness"
to review executive action, which injects courts into the political process.

He pointed to the district court in California that in January 2018 issued a temporary
injunction to block the Trump administration from ending Deferred Action for Childhood
Arrivals, or DACA. DACA has protected about 800,000 people who were brought to the
U.S. illegally as children or came with families who overstayed visas. The Obama-era
program includes hundreds of thousands of college-age students.

U. S. District Judge William Alsup said at the time that lawyers in favor of Daca
demonstrated that the immigrants "were likely to suffer serious, irreparable harm"
without court action. The judge also said the lawyers have a strong chance of
succeeding at trial.
The White House was swift to criticize these lower court injunctions and called
this particular decision "outrageous." USVP Mike Pence recently said the
administration will ask the Supreme Court to bar them.

"So what have these nationwide injunctions wrought? Dreamers remain in limbo the
political process has been pre-empted, and we have had over a year of bitter political
division that included a government shutdown of unprecedented length," Barr said.
Barr said nationwide injunctions violate the separation of powers. He said that since
Trump took office, there have been 37 nationwide injunctions - more than one a month -
against his office and he said there is likely no end in sight. He said by comparison,
there were two instances where district courts issued an injunction in President Obama's
first two years.

The Associated Press wrote that this is "the latest example of Barr moving to embrace
Trump's political talking points." Its report pointed out that Trump criticized these
rulings at a rally earlier this month saying "activist judges who issue nationwide
injunctions on their personal beliefs, undermine democracy and threaten the rule of law."

Barr has brushed aside criticism from Democrats that he is in the President's pocket.
He told the Wall Street Journal that he is defending the presidency, not Trump.
"If you destroy the presidency and make it an errand boy for Congress, we're going to be
a much weaker and more divided nation," he said.
AP contributed to this report.
​

What do you think about Congress weakening the Presidency? How can we stop this impingement upon the Separation of Powers?

Right now, many of us are wondering what further tricks Nancy Pelosi and her Congressional minions, hungry for her endowment of funding for their campaigns, will be using stolen FBI documents to twist the arm of more Obama-appointed lower court bleatings.

I hold the Democrats responsible for taking President Trump away from his responsibilities to hold governments like North Korea from vaporizing San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland Oregon with atomic weaponry China has funneled to him sans information what he actually does to the United States may be done to him.

Congress, get the hell off President Trump's restoration of America's refined leadership in the world that has attracted jealousy and hatred from governments with a history of eating their own people with starvation, with sarin gas, and other means of genocide.

Well hello there! The Founding fathers intended that the Executive Branch be the weakest part of our Govt.. congress has the power to make laws and the power of the purse. The President was intended to function as CiC and exercise diplomacy--and enforce those laws that Congress passed via the Justice Dept..The power of the veto was intended to be the only formal input into the lawmaking process--everything else was the 'bully pulpit'. The growing strength of the Presidency can be traced to 2 things..one is the Leadership exercised by the President in time of war..martial law and the sweeping Powers exercised by Lincoln, Wilson and FDR played a part.
IMO..the inability of Congress to act responsibly is the overriding reason..factionalism and the increasing use of the power of Executive Orders by frustrated Chief Executives. The Presidency NEEDS trimming----it was NEVER intended to be a reflection of social or cultural values! The President is supposed to enforce and obey the laws..all of them--whether or not he agrees with them. If Trump had a backbone he would deport every illegal he could get his hands on..because it is the law--until Congress changes it. But getting reelected and ensuring that his faction wins has become more important than enforcing the law.

It isn't quite that simple. The President could ruthlessly and mercilessly round up and deport every non citizen who doesn't hold a valid visa or green card and start machine gunning the flood that is pouring over the border and that would be enforcing the law. But even if he was that kind of person, and he isn't, he wisely knows he would lose the heart and minds of the American people in the process. Much better to physically stop as much of the flood as possible and urge Congress to pass laws so that the flood won't want to spend the considerable cash and take the considerable risks to be here. And most of those already here would go home.

President Trump is pushing for exactly that. It is the Democrats and the others of the permanent political class refuse to do their jobs in that regard.

But again separation of powers was built into the Constitution for a reason to dilute the powers of each branch of government as a check and balance against totalitarianism gaining any kind of foothold. And historically executive privilege has allowed the President to not reveal sensitive negotiations or situations that would jeopardize national security or otherwise not be in the best interests of the country. And I believe the first President to exercise that authority was President George Washington.

And even back then there was discord over where congressional powers ended and Presidential powers began. All this is nothing new.

Fair enough--although I would stop short of the machine gunning and such. I do not think that hearts and minds are uppermost in Trump's mind when he makes these decisions..but rather he is aware of the cold political calculus of such an action. Trump and his Govt. could go after the employers...yet they do not. I think both parties like the immigration issue..to energize their bases..and for the cheap labor. No matter what they say..their long-standing actions, and inaction, in the matter tell a clear tale.

Executive Privilege was not, however, intended as a shield against legitimate investigation--I guess the rub is in the term 'legitimate', eh? Both sides have cried wolf so many, many times...that we grow weary. I'm not a Trump fan..as most know--but I do think we got exactly the President we deserved. The best of us cower in disgust at running for office. Those in office are not seen as serving their country..they're seen as hogs at the trough or demagogues in the making--so that is what we get. Dogmatic fanatics and corrupt users.

Yes, we have always struggled with power and the nature of such. A strong personality gathers power..a weak one losses it..this despite whatever checks and balances we put into place. I do think most historians would agree that the Executive branch has tended to garner more power over the years..and that the checks put into place are fraying..at best. This is at the door of Congress..whose members settle for the personal power of getting elected over the institutional power of standing their ground..and risking their office.

When Congress refuses to give the President ANY help in controlling the border, machine gunning is about the only effective means at the President's disposal. And since he won't do that, we are pretty well screwed until Congress does do its job. Disclaimer: before the TDS crowd accuses me of suggesting machine gunning should be done, I want to make it clear that I am NOT saying that it should.

When Congress refuses to do its job, it almost forces the President to exercise more authority when it is necessary for the country. And some administrations have definitely exercised that power wrongly. I believe the Obama administration did so pretty extensively and I won't be surprised if the current investigations underway by the I.G. and the Special Prosecutor reveal some of that. Maybe it has happened in the current administration too, but I am not seeing it so far.

 

[JoeB131]

Anyone who thought the Benghazi investigations would show a Government agency guilty of anything sure wasn't using their heads.

The State Department fucked up big time but no one was fired. No heads rolled and Hitlery was found innocent of any wrong doing.

Because no one deserved to be fired, no one was guilty of any wrongdoing.

Just like no one was guilty in the seven embassy attacks that happened on George W. Bush's watch that killed a total of 65 Americans.

Shit just happens.

 

[JoeB131]

When Congress refuses to give the President ANY help in controlling the border, machine gunning is about the only effective means at the President's disposal. And since he won't do that, we are pretty well screwed until Congress does do its job. Disclaimer: before the TDS crowd accuses me of suggesting machine gunning should be done, I want to make it clear that I am NOT saying that it should.

When Congress refuses to do its job, it almost forces the President to exercise more authority when it is necessary for the country. And some administrations have definitely exercised that power wrongly. I believe the Obama administration did so pretty extensively and I won't be surprised if the current investigations underway by the I.G. and the Special Prosecutor reveal some of that. Maybe it has happened in the current administration too, but I am not seeing it so far.

Trumpenfuhrer had two years of his party controlling both houses of Congress and he STILL couldn't get his wall up.

Sorry, you are being played for a chump in that you think 1) This is an issue that you should actually be worried about or 2) that the powers that be in both parties have any interest in changing things.

THEY WANT A SOURCE OF CHEAP LABOR!

sorry you don't get that.

 

[JoeB131]

No, I remember them spending 70 Million dollars to determine if Clinton really considered a blow job to be sex or not. that's what I remember.

 

[JoeB131]

It is more than just weakening the Presidency. There are those in the Democratic Party and elsewhere, including their surrogate media, and those working in government who are helping them, who have initiated what amounts to a bloodless coup of a lawfully elected and installed President of the United States.

Oh, HORSESHIT.

Every president has dealt with these kinds of problems. Nixon had Watergate, Reagan had Iran Contra, Clinton had Zippergate and Bush had to deal with PlameGate.

If all these people are saying, "Trump is truly unfit for office and he was probably being manipulated by the Russians", you should probably listen.

God willing they will be stopped and exposed for the truly evil thing they are doing. If they are not, we will never again have the America that was a shining and magnificent great experiment of liberty, benevolence, prosperity, and freedom to be who and what a person wishes to aspire to be so long as the rights of others are not trampled.

Again, freedom got trampled when we let the Russians overrule what the majority wanted...

Here's the underlying problem. If you left Impeachment of Trump to a secret ballot in congress, 90% of Republicans would probably vote to get rid of him. They know that he's unfit for office. So does most of his cabinet. The real problem is that they are afraid of the Red Hat Nazis who would react if they did.

Pray for our President and those who support him. And pray for those in Congress to be smitten by conscience so that they are inspired to do their job and to do the right thing. The right thing is to not be hateful, destructive, power mad, and vindictive because they didn't win the White House.

I do, I pray every day he gets removed and then we can clean up this mess and get back to sane government. Shit, I could even live with Pence.

Sadly, what we've proven is what the Romans found out in 37 AD, and what the Germans found out in 1933... When you have a large system and plug a madman up at the top, bad stuff follows.

 

[danielpalos]

Why is Congress trying to weaken the Presidency?

Barr Says Trump's Presidency's Agendas Are Being Hampered by Lower Court Rulings​

Source: Trump's agenda hampered by troubling number of lower court injunctions, Barr says

Attorney General William Barr on Tuesday said he has noticed a troubling trend of
nationwide injunctions issued by lower courts that have taken their toll on President
Trump’s agenda and threaten the political process for future administrations.Barr, who
has been accused by Democrats of protecting Trump after the release of the Mueller
report, told the American Law Institute that there is a new trend of judicial "willingness"
to review executive action, which injects courts into the political process.

He pointed to the district court in California that in January 2018 issued a temporary
injunction to block the Trump administration from ending Deferred Action for Childhood
Arrivals, or DACA. DACA has protected about 800,000 people who were brought to the
U.S. illegally as children or came with families who overstayed visas. The Obama-era
program includes hundreds of thousands of college-age students.

U. S. District Judge William Alsup said at the time that lawyers in favor of Daca
demonstrated that the immigrants "were likely to suffer serious, irreparable harm"
without court action. The judge also said the lawyers have a strong chance of
succeeding at trial.
The White House was swift to criticize these lower court injunctions and called
this particular decision "outrageous." USVP Mike Pence recently said the
administration will ask the Supreme Court to bar them.

"So what have these nationwide injunctions wrought? Dreamers remain in limbo the
political process has been pre-empted, and we have had over a year of bitter political
division that included a government shutdown of unprecedented length," Barr said.
Barr said nationwide injunctions violate the separation of powers. He said that since
Trump took office, there have been 37 nationwide injunctions - more than one a month -
against his office and he said there is likely no end in sight. He said by comparison,
there were two instances where district courts issued an injunction in President Obama's
first two years.

The Associated Press wrote that this is "the latest example of Barr moving to embrace
Trump's political talking points." Its report pointed out that Trump criticized these
rulings at a rally earlier this month saying "activist judges who issue nationwide
injunctions on their personal beliefs, undermine democracy and threaten the rule of law."

Barr has brushed aside criticism from Democrats that he is in the President's pocket.
He told the Wall Street Journal that he is defending the presidency, not Trump.
"If you destroy the presidency and make it an errand boy for Congress, we're going to be
a much weaker and more divided nation," he said.
AP contributed to this report.
​

What do you think about Congress weakening the Presidency? How can we stop this impingement upon the Separation of Powers?

Right now, many of us are wondering what further tricks Nancy Pelosi and her Congressional minions, hungry for her endowment of funding for their campaigns, will be using stolen FBI documents to twist the arm of more Obama-appointed lower court bleatings.

I hold the Democrats responsible for taking President Trump away from his responsibilities to hold governments like North Korea from vaporizing San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland Oregon with atomic weaponry China has funneled to him sans information what he actually does to the United States may be done to him.

Congress, get the hell off President Trump's restoration of America's refined leadership in the world that has attracted jealousy and hatred from governments with a history of eating their own people with starvation, with sarin gas, and other means of genocide.

It is more than just weakening the Presidency. There are those in the Democratic Party and elsewhere, including their surrogate media, and those working in government who are helping them, who have initiated what amounts to a bloodless coup of a lawfully elected and installed President of the United States.

God willing they will be stopped and exposed for the truly evil thing they are doing. If they are not, we will never again have the America that was a shining and magnificent great experiment of liberty, benevolence, prosperity, and freedom to be who and what a person wishes to aspire to be so long as the rights of others are not trampled.

Pray for our President and those who support him. And pray for those in Congress to be smitten by conscience so that they are inspired to do their job and to do the right thing. The right thing is to not be hateful, destructive, power mad, and vindictive because they didn't win the White House.

Congress preferred venality, instead.

 

[JoeB131]

Congress preferred venality, instead.

Or they let it be known, if they kept up with the foolishness, America would find out about all their mistresses, and they could join Newt and Livingstone on the Unemployment Line.

The irony of it was that who we had impeaching Clinton for a consensual relationship with an intern.

1) Newt- who was cheating on Wife #2 with Wife #3.
2) Livingstone- who was cheating on his wife
3) Denny Hastert, who was paying off guys he molested when he was a soccer coach.

Family values, everyone... family values.

 

[Foxfyre]

When Congress refuses to give the President ANY help in controlling the border, machine gunning is about the only effective means at the President's disposal. And since he won't do that, we are pretty well screwed until Congress does do its job. Disclaimer: before the TDS crowd accuses me of suggesting machine gunning should be done, I want to make it clear that I am NOT saying that it should.

When Congress refuses to do its job, it almost forces the President to exercise more authority when it is necessary for the country. And some administrations have definitely exercised that power wrongly. I believe the Obama administration did so pretty extensively and I won't be surprised if the current investigations underway by the I.G. and the Special Prosecutor reveal some of that. Maybe it has happened in the current administration too, but I am not seeing it so far.

Trumpenfuhrer had two years of his party controlling both houses of Congress and he STILL couldn't get his wall up.

Sorry, you are being played for a chump in that you think 1) This is an issue that you should actually be worried about or 2) that the powers that be in both parties have any interest in changing things.

THEY WANT A SOURCE OF CHEAP LABOR!

sorry you don't get that.

Nice recitation of assigned talking points. Have a great day.

 

[JoeB131]

Nice recitation of assigned talking points. Have a great day.

Pointing out the obvious. Republicans don't want the wall, either...

Sorry this comes as a shock to you. They all talk about 'securing the border", but the reality is, we want people to pick our lettuce, clean our toliets and hang our drywall...

 

[Foxfyre]

Nice recitation of assigned talking points. Have a great day.

Pointing out the obvious. Republicans don't want the wall, either...

Sorry this comes as a shock to you. They all talk about 'securing the border", but the reality is, we want people to pick our lettuce, clean our toliets and hang our drywall...

I don't think any of them don't want the wall. But I will give you that enough Republicans have also been irresponsible, feckless, and gutless when it comes to governing. Sometimes every bit as much as the Democrats. And the desire to maintain a status quo that is greatly increasing their own power, prestige, influence, and person wealth overrides everything else. They aren't willing to stick their necks out and actually get something done that will also make themselves a target of the most hateful, merciless, and ruthless of Americans.

 

[JoeB131]

I don't think any of them don't want the wall. But I will give you that enough Republicans have also been irresponsible, feckless, and gutless when it comes to governing. Sometimes every bit as much as the Democrats. And the desire to maintain a status quo that is greatly increasing their own power, prestige, influence, and person wealth overrides everything else. They aren't willing to stick their necks out and actually get something done that will also make themselves a target of the most hateful, merciless, and ruthless of Americans.

Here's the thing... The last politician who was honest with us was Walter Mondale. He straight up said taxes would need to go up. He lost 49 states. Then the guy who beat him raised taxes anyway. And the guy who followed him. And the guy who followed him.

Now, I would love to have a politician be honest with us on undocumented immigration. Honest is admitting a wall won't work, because half of them don't get in the country that way and the other half can figure out how to breach a wall.

I could solve the illegal alien problem in a few weeks. Simply go after the people who hire them. The sweatshop owner, the rich yuppie broad who doesn't want to raise her own kids, the clown who hires a bunch of Mexicans from outside the Home Depot after that DIY project isn't as easy as Chip and Joanna made it look.

We aren;t going to do that. because as much as we all hate undocumented immigration, we love the services they provide, as much as we don't want to admit it.

My problem with Trump is that not only doesn't he want to discuss alternatives, he uses the ugliest rhetoric to inflame his base. But the real problem is that it is always easier to kick down than to punch up.