'Why I’m So Mean'

midcan5

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Jun 4, 2007
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I know this will be hard to believe, but often when I call a right wing conservative stupid I feel a bit of remorse. My mom would have corrected me, my dad would have added a much more colorful stupid. But face it folks, the right wing today are the puppets of the rich, and they prove it almost daily. And is there any need to mention the dreamy libertarians who think fantasy-land is for real? So it was a pleasure coming across Jonathan CHait's piece on why he can't help but be un-PC. Enjoy. Oh, and do as i do, save the link, for tomorrow a right wingnut will repeat the same nonsense. It's all they do.

By Jonathan Chait

"There are just a lot of people out there exerting significant influence over the political debate who are totally unqualified. The dilemma is especially acute in the political economic field, where wealthy right-wingers have pumped so much money to subsidize the field of pro-rich people polemics that the demand for competent defenders of letting rich people keep as much of their money as possible vastly outstrips the supply. Hence the intellectual marketplace for arguments that we should tax rich people less is glutted with hackery. The very simple fallacy I pointed out by de Rugy has been knocking around for years, without end. (Here it is in a piece by Stephen Moore in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal op-ed page. Here is Senator Jim DeMint making it today in an interview with the approving editors of Reason.) A similar problem exists, perhaps to an even worse extent, with climate change denial." Why I
 
The liberals propose an alternative. Only the really stupid and ill equipped are competent to run businesses or the government. The intelligent, the canny and inventive are going to be rich. They just are, they will have better ideas, develop better products, make better decisions and have better judgment than someone who can't even lift themselves out of poverty. To liberals the more poor someone is, the better they are at judging for us all.
 
Or they inherit the results of WORK of some relative and then think they know everything while they Hire people to run their businesses.

When you worship the wealthy like you do Katz you end up worshiping their children.

That is what the whole thing ends up in.

The Walmart children DID NOT BUILD the company.

they were given it and before long it will be their kids running it.

concentration of wealthy ends in a society run by people who never lived in the society becasue they were so wealthy all their lives they lived in a bubble.


That is what the founders DIDNT want for this country, its what they LEFT!
 
Midcam,

forcing people to accept facts is a gift to that person.

sometimes you have to use a delicate touch and sometimes you have to heave Huge bombs of facts at them at high velocity.


Either way you are trying to help your fellow man.

even the ones who need to catch the fact bombs
 
Or they inherit the results of WORK of some relative and then think they know everything while they Hire people to run their businesses.

When you worship the wealthy like you do Katz you end up worshiping their children.

That is what the whole thing ends up in.

The Walmart children DID NOT BUILD the company.

they were given it and before long it will be their kids running it.

concentration of wealthy ends in a society run by people who never lived in the society becasue they were so wealthy all their lives they lived in a bubble.


That is what the founders DIDNT want for this country, its what they LEFT!
And people born to welfare who continue to live on the public dole have never lived in society either. At least the Waltons provide employment to thousands of people. The welfare class is a drain on the production and wealth of the country. They provide no service, nothing of intrinsic value and no jobs for anyone but welfare bureaucrats.

Why do you hate apostrophes and proper spelling?
 
But Progressives have no problem with a government that spend over 3 fucking TRILLION annually and has a $1.3 TRILLION deficit
 
I know this will be hard to believe, but often when I call a right wing conservative stupid I feel a bit of remorse. My mom would have corrected me, my dad would have added a much more colorful stupid. But face it folks, the right wing today are the puppets of the rich, and they prove it almost daily. And is there any need to mention the dreamy libertarians who think fantasy-land is for real? So it was a pleasure coming across Jonathan CHait's piece on why he can't help but be un-PC. Enjoy. Oh, and do as i do, save the link, for tomorrow a right wingnut will repeat the same nonsense. It's all they do.

By Jonathan Chait

"There are just a lot of people out there exerting significant influence over the political debate who are totally unqualified. The dilemma is especially acute in the political economic field, where wealthy right-wingers have pumped so much money to subsidize the field of pro-rich people polemics that the demand for competent defenders of letting rich people keep as much of their money as possible vastly outstrips the supply. Hence the intellectual marketplace for arguments that we should tax rich people less is glutted with hackery. The very simple fallacy I pointed out by de Rugy has been knocking around for years, without end. (Here it is in a piece by Stephen Moore in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal op-ed page. Here is Senator Jim DeMint making it today in an interview with the approving editors of Reason.) A similar problem exists, perhaps to an even worse extent, with climate change denial." Why I

I know this will be hard to believe but I gave up reading your bullshit some time ago. Why, you may ask.... because you demonstrate absolutely no critical thought, and regurgitate talking points like they are facts. Frankly, your bullshit bores me.

And I don't even need to link to amazon to back that up. It's an opinion formed all by myself... some of us can still do that. Form opinions for ourselves. You should try it - if your brain still works.
 
...the right wing today are the puppets of the rich, and they prove it almost daily. And is there any need to mention the dreamy libertarians who think fantasy-land is for real?

Big on bravado, light on logic and reason. Care to back up your assertions with specificity?
 
Or they inherit the results of WORK of some relative and then think they know everything while they Hire people to run their businesses.

When you worship the wealthy like you do Katz you end up worshiping their children.

That is what the whole thing ends up in.

The Walmart children DID NOT BUILD the company.

they were given it and before long it will be their kids running it.

concentration of wealthy ends in a society run by people who never lived in the society becasue they were so wealthy all their lives they lived in a bubble.


That is what the founders DIDNT want for this country, its what they LEFT!
And people born to welfare who continue to live on the public dole have never lived in society either. At least the Waltons provide employment to thousands of people. The welfare class is a drain on the production and wealth of the country. They provide no service, nothing of intrinsic value and no jobs for anyone but welfare bureaucrats.

Why do you hate apostrophes and proper spelling?
what would you do with the starving children?

watch them starve?
 
What does the man who essentially established the credentials of the capitalistic system think of estate taxes? I am speaking of Adam Smith, who wrote "Wealth of Nations".

Jeff Weintraub: Teddy Roosevelt & Adam Smith on inheritance taxes (Susan Dunn & Sam Fleischacker)

From Adam Smith to Thomas Jefferson, lovers of freedom have demanded that social privilege be earned -- not inherited. [....]
Estate taxes can easily look cruel or unfair if one calls them "death taxes." In fact, however, they are the fairest of all taxes, and have a long and proud history.
Adam Smith taught the students who attended his jurisprudential lectures that "there is no point more difficult to account for than the right we conceive men to have to dispose of their goods after death." He thought inheritance was clearly justified only when it was necessary to provide for dependent children.
Among those who attended Smith's lectures was the historian and jurist John Millar, who supported a change in the inheritance laws such that wills would be enforced only for a limited part of a person's property. Millar saw this as entirely compatible with a respect for property rights. He was joined in this, as in his enthusiasm for Smith, by Tom Paine.
And Thomas Jefferson, who described "The Wealth of Nations" as "the best book extant" on political economy, famously wondered at about the same time whether all hereditary privileges should be abolished since "the earth belongs in usufruct to the living." He could have been quoting Smith with those words: It is "the most absurd of all suppositions," said Smith, "that every successive generation of men have not an equal right to the earth."
 
From Theodore Roosevelt;



“A heavy progressive tax upon a very large fortune is in no way such a tax upon thrift or industry as a like would be on a small fortune. No advantage comes either to the country as a whole or to the individuals inheriting the money by permitting the transmission in their entirety of the enormous fortunes which would be affected by such a tax; and as an incident to its function of revenue raising, such a tax would help to preserve a measurable equality of opportunity for the people of the generations growing to manhood.
“We have not the slightest sympathy with that socialistic idea which would try to put laziness, thriftlessness and inefficiency on a par with industry, thrift and efficiency; which would strive to break up not merely private property, but what is far more important, the home, the chief prop upon which our whole civilization stands. Such a theory, if ever adopted, would mean the ruin of the entire country–a ruin which would bear heaviest upon the weakest, upon those least able to shift for themselves.
“But proposals for legislation such as this herein advocated are directly opposed to this class of socialistic theories. Our aim is to recognize what Lincoln pointed out: The fact that there are some respects in which men are obviously not equal; but also to insist that there should be an equality of self-respect and of mutual respect, an equality of rights before the law, and at least an approximate equality in the conditions under which each man obtains the chance to show the stuff that is in him when compared to his fellows.”

Read more: Teddy Roosevelt, “Socialist” Advocate of Progressive Taxation - Steven Waldman
 
Leave it to the left to cherry pick interpretations of the FF when they want to advocate some nut-case program. If the Founding Fathers thought a federal tax on income was a good idea they would have included it in the Constitution.
 
From Theodore Roosevelt;



“A heavy progressive tax upon a very large fortune is in no way such a tax upon thrift or industry as a like would be on a small fortune. No advantage comes either to the country as a whole or to the individuals inheriting the money by permitting the transmission in their entirety of the enormous fortunes which would be affected by such a tax; and as an incident to its function of revenue raising, such a tax would help to preserve a measurable equality of opportunity for the people of the generations growing to manhood.
“We have not the slightest sympathy with that socialistic idea which would try to put laziness, thriftlessness and inefficiency on a par with industry, thrift and efficiency; which would strive to break up not merely private property, but what is far more important, the home, the chief prop upon which our whole civilization stands. Such a theory, if ever adopted, would mean the ruin of the entire country–a ruin which would bear heaviest upon the weakest, upon those least able to shift for themselves.
“But proposals for legislation such as this herein advocated are directly opposed to this class of socialistic theories. Our aim is to recognize what Lincoln pointed out: The fact that there are some respects in which men are obviously not equal; but also to insist that there should be an equality of self-respect and of mutual respect, an equality of rights before the law, and at least an approximate equality in the conditions under which each man obtains the chance to show the stuff that is in him when compared to his fellows.”

Read more: Teddy Roosevelt, “Socialist” Advocate of Progressive Taxation - Steven Waldman

Yes. I also had that one bookmarked. That was before the Repub voters became easily manipulated through shiny objects (social issues)
 

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