Why I'm not hiring.

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    I found this WSJ piece to be very interesting. Most people who have never had to meet a payroll have absolutely no idea how expensive it can be to employ people.

    Michael P. Fleischer: Why I'm Not Hiring - WSJ.com

    With tax hikes looming, increasing health care costs and reporting obligations for employers, inevitable energy taxes and the soon to be coming VAT, is it any wonder that businesses aren't hiring?

    And let's not forget that there are many businesses out there that are hiring and offering training but people would rather stay on unemployment because the benefits are either more than that of a salary or close enough that people don't care to work for the same amount that they can collect while not working.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/us-companies-cant-find-enough-skilled-workers-right-now-2010-8

    So next time you argue for extending unemployment benefits think about this.
     
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    So basically employers think that because there are a lot of unemployed people they can offer slave wages and people will take their offerings?

    Uh huh.

    I thought this was going to be about your own personal business and not a regurgitation from right wing talking points.

    :cool:
     
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    So you call 44,000 a year net pay slave wages?

    And business owners who tell the truth about the costs government lays on employers are neither left nor right. They just are

    And tell me would anyone work for the same amount of money they can collect for sitting on their asses.

    If you want to know about my business, I'll tell you. We're doing well and are considering letting go several part time people so as to hire some full timers. Circumstances in our employee pool have evolved so we find ourselves with more part time than full time people because we tried to keep everyone that told us they had scheduling problems or who after maternity leave didn't want to come back full time but it's just not working out.

    We have a bunch of people who can't work this day or that and offer absolutely no flexibility. We see a lack of continuity in customer service and care. People might think that having more part than full time people is a good thing but in realty it's not unless you're running a MacDonalds or a retail store where day to day continuity and follow up concerns are minimal.

    We offer benefits to part timers (retirement, vacation etc) so really as expensive as it is to hire, the end cost should be a wash for us but that is not the case for all businesses.
     
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    How much more does your company make with Sally working then without her working?

    Does her presence bring in more than $74,000 per year?
     
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    If it brought in 74,001 it would not be worth hiring her.
     
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    A contractor in this country finds that he makes less then his employees after all of his taxes and government mandates are paid....and top it off Obama is adding another one next January. After paying Workmen's Comp and paying for health coverage on each and every one of his workers most home-builders don't have much left to pay themselves. So many of them cut workers out completely and just work for themselves doing odd jobs and only hire laborers that make maybe $10 an hour part-time.

    Why is contruction so expensive on government contracts? Because to meet the requirements imposed by Congress everyone who works for contractors has to by law have full health coverage. A job that normally would cost $30,000 eventually ends up costing $80,000 because the contractor has to charge that much to pay his overhead. Government health insurance requirements is gonna force the price of everything up and their's no ceiling to the costs.
     
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    People aren't hiring because they don't see opportunity to make money, simple as that.

    While I don't doubt taxes are too high, that is not the primary problem.

    The problem is that the economy is in the crapper because we have followed a course of economic policies which stripped workers of their ability to make enough money to keep this economy in balance.

    We gave every advantage to the capital class and screwed our own consumer classes in the process.
     
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    That's the only question that matters.
     
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    Then don't hire her...
     
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    What if she brought in $740,001?
     

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