Why I’m leaving the Republican Party and Endorsing President Obama.

[NLT]

The federal gubmint wasn't chartered to "solve problems"

And that is where you wing nuts are all wrong.

The 4 principal reasons why our federal government was formed:
"(1) The common defense (national security)

(2) the preservation of public peace, as well against internal convulsions as external attacks

(3) the regulation of commerce with other nations and between states

(4) the superintendent of our intercourse, political and commercial, with foreign countries (foreign affairs)." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper No.23, 1787 - a founding father with most important interpretation of the Constitution.

 

[g5000]

Real Americans™ vote Republican and never waver from it.

It does not get more empty-headed than that.


A real American uses critical thinking to determine the underlying problems facing our country and does not robotically accept the premises held out to him by one party or another. A real American questions the "facts" presented by biased partisans.

A real American then decides for him or herself what the best possible solution to the real problem is.

Then the real American throws their support to the person who best represents that solution.

A Real American serves his/her country.

When/where did you serve, asswipe?

I served for 20 years.

Nice try, dumbass.

 

[g5000]

Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama.
by: Jeff Wartman

Full article: Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama. | Jeff Wartman



Read the entire article at JeffWartman.com Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama. | Jeff Wartman

I don't need to read the article. It is the reason that I left the Republican Party. What is ironic is that Ronald Reagan understood what worked and what didn't. He was an ideologue as most conservatives are, but he was smart enough to understand that government needed to work, and in order to work properly, it needed to be funded properly. Ronnie would laugh at today's Republican Party for their ineptitude at being able to get things done. Today's Republicans are completely inept at running government because they are so honed in on thinking and believing that the only good that can come from government is to get rid of as much of it as possible.

Why don't you visit the post office or DMV to witness government stupidity at it's finest. Or stroll through the halls of the IRS or the Deparment of Homeland Secrurity.

What a flaming twat

Well, at least we agree Bush's creation of the Department of Homeland Security was a gigantic mistake.

 

[Oddball]

And that is where you wing nuts are all wrong.

Please cite article and section that says gubmint was chartered specifically to "solve problems".

You keep saying this like the GOP respects your views and is the party of strict constitutionalists and limited federal government.

I already figured out that they don't, over 15 years ago...That's why I'm a libertarian who hasn't voted for a single repub since '94.

Care to take another stab at it?

 

[Dot Com]

You really got to question someone's integrity when they were a Republican in the first place unless they were a "Repub w/ a conscience" (RINO)

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It does not get more empty-headed than that.


A real American uses critical thinking to determine the underlying problems facing our country and does not robotically accept the premises held out to him by one party or another. A real American questions the "facts" presented by biased partisans.

A real American then decides for him or herself what the best possible solution to the real problem is.

Then the real American throws their support to the person who best represents that solution.

A Real American serves his/her country.

When/where did you serve, asswipe?

I served for 20 years.

Nice try, dumbass.

I served my time but that probably doesn't count huh?

None the less I like to think I'm a real American.

At a bare minimum I keep the police employed and on their toes. All the while being firmly planted on my face.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama.
by: Jeff Wartman

Full article: Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama. | Jeff Wartman

I’m leaving the Republican Party. No longer can I say with a clear conscience that the Republican Party is focused on solving problems that will benefit average Americans.

Solving problems is about pragmatically viewing data to decide upon the most effective public policy solutions. Many times, problem solving is the complete opposite of adhering to a rigid political ideology that dictates policy regardless of consequences. Our public servants need to be looking at what has worked, what has not worked, and using those judgments to form policy moving forward. The Republican Party refuses to look at what works and what doesn’t — they simply base policy on whether it fits into a rigid anti-government philosophy, whether it is good policy or not. Essentially, the effectiveness of policy is completely and totally irrelevant to Republicans. Additionally, the Republican Party believes more strongly in obstructing anything that President Obama proposes than in real solutions that would create jobs and help the average American.

Additionally, I have specific grievances with the current “know-nothing” incarnation of the Republican Party:...

Read the entire article at JeffWartman.com Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama. | Jeff Wartman

Jake? Izzatyou?

 

[Valox]

Please cite article and section that says gubmint was chartered specifically to "solve problems".

You keep saying this like the GOP respects your views and is the party of strict constitutionalists and limited federal government.

I already figured out that they don't, over 15 years ago...That's why I'm a libertarian who hasn't voted for a single repub since '94.

Care to take another stab at it?

Good for you and I wasn't taken a stab. All I was pointing out is that you came off very defensive in this thread, arguing from a standpoint that is far removed from the current GOP platform.

 

[Warrior102]

I served for 20 years.
[/QUOTE]

Lemme guess....

The Air Farce?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why I left the Democrat Party.

Grrr I am so angry at my once great Democrat Party, angry! We used to be decent Americans but now my Party was taken over by Moscow. I go to Democrat Party meeting and people call each other "Komrade" and talk about bringing down the "1%". They want Universal Health Care so they can control the people.It's not the Party I once knew. Sure FDR supported Mao and Stalin, but that was different. Bye Bye Dems. Keep your Hope. Change too

 

[Oddball]

You keep saying this like the GOP respects your views and is the party of strict constitutionalists and limited federal government.

I already figured out that they don't, over 15 years ago...That's why I'm a libertarian who hasn't voted for a single repub since '94.

Care to take another stab at it?

Good for you and I wasn't taken a stab. All I was pointing out is that you came off very defensive in this thread, arguing from a standpoint that is far removed from the current GOP platform.

Defensive?...In what way?

How is pointing out that the OP is completely full of shit defensive or supportive of republicans?

 

[Mr.Nick]

Why I left the Democrat Party.

Grrr I am so angry at my once great Democrat Party, angry! We used to be decent Americans but now my Party was taken over by Moscow. I go to Democrat Party meeting and people call each other "Komrade" and talk about bringing down the "1%". They want Universal Health Care so they can control the people.It's not the Party I once knew. Sure FDR supported Mao and Stalin, but that was different. Bye Bye Dems. Keep your Hope. Change too

You're not a democrat.....

Well, unless you believe the federal government has superiority.

Democrats never did accept the Tenth Amendment.

I think the Tenth Amendment is the wedge between the two parties.

Of course back in the days democrats were "federalists" who believed in the collective rather than the individual.

It hurts my soul these days to hear a progressive "liberal" refer to himself or herself as a "liberal."

Democrats were never liberal......

Democrats err federalists have been opposed to civil liberties since day one....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why I left the Democrat Party.

Grrr I am so angry at my once great Democrat Party, angry! We used to be decent Americans but now my Party was taken over by Moscow. I go to Democrat Party meeting and people call each other "Komrade" and talk about bringing down the "1%". They want Universal Health Care so they can control the people.It's not the Party I once knew. Sure FDR supported Mao and Stalin, but that was different. Bye Bye Dems. Keep your Hope. Change too

You're not a democrat.....

Well, unless you believe the federal government has superiority.

Democrats never did accept the Tenth Amendment

I think the Tenth Amendment is the wedge between the two parties.

Of course back in the days democrats were "federalists."

It hurts my soul these days to hear a progressive "liberal" refer to himself or herself as a "liberal."

Democrats were never liberal......

Democrats err federalists have been opposed to civil liberties since day one....

Right. I'm not a Democrat anymore. Right. I said that.

I feel betrayed by the Democrats shift so far left that there are Communist nations that have a better embrace of Free Enterprise than my former Democrat Party

 

[kwc57]

Seriously?



What the fuck do you think the whole thing was about? Problem solving.

The Preamble isn't an article and section.

As I already concisely pointed out, the whole thing was about protecting the rights of individuals, providing for legal redress when those rights were violated by antisocial individuals, and protecting national borders....That's it.

Your continual claptrap about not wanting to go along with your coercive statist Utopia still doesn't constitute anarchy, no matter how many times you repeat the lie.

You've blown your whole argument out of the water here..ace..

The government DOES solve problems.

It's there to solve problems.

The problem with you is that you think it's only there to solve YOUR PROBLEMS.

Define "solve problems", then list 10 problems and show us in the constitution where the solution to the problems belongs to the government. We'll wait.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Please cite article and section that says gubmint was chartered specifically to "solve problems".

Seriously?

The Constitution of the United States

Preamble Note

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What the fuck do you think the whole thing was about? Problem solving.

The Preamble isn't an article and section.

As I already concisely pointed out, the whole thing was about protecting the rights of individuals, providing for legal redress when those rights were violated by antisocial individuals, and protecting national borders....That's it.

Your continual claptrap about not wanting to go along with your coercive statist Utopia still doesn't constitute anarchy, no matter how many times you repeat the lie.

I have peer reviewed this post and its sheer fucking poetry

 

[Mr.Nick]

Why I left the Democrat Party.

Grrr I am so angry at my once great Democrat Party, angry! We used to be decent Americans but now my Party was taken over by Moscow. I go to Democrat Party meeting and people call each other "Komrade" and talk about bringing down the "1%". They want Universal Health Care so they can control the people.It's not the Party I once knew. Sure FDR supported Mao and Stalin, but that was different. Bye Bye Dems. Keep your Hope. Change too

You're not a democrat.....

Well, unless you believe the federal government has superiority.

Democrats never did accept the Tenth Amendment

I think the Tenth Amendment is the wedge between the two parties.

Of course back in the days democrats were "federalists."

It hurts my soul these days to hear a progressive "liberal" refer to himself or herself as a "liberal."

Democrats were never liberal......

Democrats err federalists have been opposed to civil liberties since day one....

Right. I'm not a Democrat anymore. Right. I said that.

I feel betrayed by the Democrats shift so far left that there are Communist nations that have a better embrace of Free Enterprise than my former Democrat Party

I've find it funny that guys like FDR and Kennedy were totally obsessed and fearful of communism, yet the modern progressive democrats are nothing but socialists and communists.

Of course they will be the first to to praise JFK or FDR....

Progressives are a joke.... They're fucking tyrants...

I'm not a democrat, however there is little difference between a classical liberal, libertarian, republican or a blue dog....

At least we all acknowledge and respect the constitution...

Progressives have no respect for the constitution or our first Ten Amendments...

Our Constitution to them is nothing more than an "old outdated document." Ironically they continue to point at it when it is convenient to do so...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You're not a democrat.....

Well, unless you believe the federal government has superiority.

Democrats never did accept the Tenth Amendment

I think the Tenth Amendment is the wedge between the two parties.

Of course back in the days democrats were "federalists."

It hurts my soul these days to hear a progressive "liberal" refer to himself or herself as a "liberal."

Democrats were never liberal......

Democrats err federalists have been opposed to civil liberties since day one....

Right. I'm not a Democrat anymore. Right. I said that.

I feel betrayed by the Democrats shift so far left that there are Communist nations that have a better embrace of Free Enterprise than my former Democrat Party

I've find it funny that guys like FDR and Kennedy were totally obsessed and fearful of communism, yet the modern progressive democrats are nothing but socialists and communists.

Of course they will be the first to to praise JFK or FDR....

Progressives are a joke.... They're fucking tyrants...

I'm not a democrat, however there is little difference between a classical liberal, libertarian, republican or a blue dog....

At least we all acknowledge and respect the constitution...

Progressives have no respect for the constitution or our first Ten Amendments...

Our Constitution to them is nothing more than an "old outdated document." Ironically they continue to point at it when it is convenient to do so...

They are Neo-Marxists.

Signed,

Jack Fartman, former Democrat

 

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[Stephanie]

Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama.
by: Jeff Wartman

Full article: Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama. | Jeff Wartman

I’m leaving the Republican Party. No longer can I say with a clear conscience that the Republican Party is focused on solving problems that will benefit average Americans.

Solving problems is about pragmatically viewing data to decide upon the most effective public policy solutions. Many times, problem solving is the complete opposite of adhering to a rigid political ideology that dictates policy regardless of consequences. Our public servants need to be looking at what has worked, what has not worked, and using those judgments to form policy moving forward. The Republican Party refuses to look at what works and what doesn’t — they simply base policy on whether it fits into a rigid anti-government philosophy, whether it is good policy or not. Essentially, the effectiveness of policy is completely and totally irrelevant to Republicans. Additionally, the Republican Party believes more strongly in obstructing anything that President Obama proposes than in real solutions that would create jobs and help the average American.

Additionally, I have specific grievances with the current “know-nothing” incarnation of the Republican Party:...

Read the entire article at JeffWartman.com Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama. | Jeff Wartman

See ya, who cares
you sound more like a Progressive anyway.

 

[Oddball]

The Preamble isn't an article and section.

As I already concisely pointed out, the whole thing was about protecting the rights of individuals, providing for legal redress when those rights were violated by antisocial individuals, and protecting national borders....That's it.

Your continual claptrap about not wanting to go along with your coercive statist Utopia still doesn't constitute anarchy, no matter how many times you repeat the lie.

You've blown your whole argument out of the water here..ace..

The government DOES solve problems.

It's there to solve problems.

The problem with you is that you think it's only there to solve YOUR PROBLEMS.

Define "solve problems", then list 10 problems and show us in the constitution where the solution to the problems belongs to the government. We'll wait.

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