Why I'll never be a gay rights advocate

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    The main problem I have with the whole idea of gay rights doesn't really have to do with any deep-seated hatred of gays. It's twofold: I really don't see gay people selflessly going to bat for other people and creating a national furor about the plights of other minorities but themselves, and I feel like the same people who want me to be all accepting and tolerant of gay people are the same ones who effectively want people to keep their religion in the closet.

    I don't believe gay people have any "civil rights" complaints so much as they have complained and thrown "rights" around enough that enough people think they don't have any, but I would still support them in their political agenda if I felt like they were massively selfish hypocrites. All they care about are their issues (and please don't try to make analogies to blacks because that's no excuse) and I've heard more than a few gays who are generally bigoted towards religious people. I know some people will say, "well that's because they have been oppressed by them", but that's bullshit, because not every gay person has that testimony. Some definitely have experienced religious persecution, but there are plenty who use religion as a scapegoat because it's the "in" thing to do.

    I'm sorry, but I see generally calling religious people stupid, crazy, insane whack-jobs as being as offensive as calling a gay person faggot, queer, homo, sissy, etc. The only difference is, it's fine to engage in thinly veiled religious intolerance, but even the notion of homophobia and some liberals lose their minds.

    Fuck all this bullshit about acceptance, tolerance, and equality. If you want others to play nice, start with yourself.
     
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    Wow. This is a really gay issue... It's flaming.
     
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    Except that historically, gays have been tortured, mutilated, burned alive and beheaded by the religious.

    Most of he time, ask the religious if they know any gays and most will say no.

    Gays have historically been one of the greatest if not the greatest, you name it, musician, artist, scientist, dancer, actor, author and the religious, at least in this country, "breed".

    The largest single group in the United States are white Christians. The majority of gays come from white Christians.

    The largest minority group in the United States are the Hispanics.
    The second largest group after the white Christians that turn out gays are the Hispanics.

    The second largest minority group in the United States are the Blacks.
    The third largest group after the whites and Hispanics that turn out gays are the blacks.

    The third largest minority group in the US are the Asians.
    The fourth largest group after the whites, Hispanics and blacks that turn out the gays are the Asians.

    See a pattern?

    A gay person can write a will. A first cousin can challenge that will in court and most of the time, they will win.

    A gay person can live with another person for 40 years and if they go into the hospital or become incapacitated, they can be denied "visitation" simply because they are not "family".

    I get sick of the religious picking on gays when they are so stupid and so blind at what they put gays through, not that they care. Of course, I have extreme indifference to the religious because I know that mysticism is nonsense. You have to be gullible to believe in that crap. But I'm not discriminatory, I feel that way about ALL religions. They disgust me.
     
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    sad but true, all of the white gay obamaloonies that voted the pos into office, thought barry was down with them. haha. the christian blacks in cali overturned gay marriage rights, the day barry was elected. wake up gays, the dude is gay, but in the closet,he's not gonna do shit for you!!
     
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    You can't be serious.

    You honestly believe that gay people are only taking up causes that are related to homosexuality?

    Or do you expect someone to stand up and announce "I'm gay and I'm here to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina?"

    Seriously, is that what you think gay people should do?

    "Hello. I'd like to help the victims of the tsunami. And did you know that I'm gay? Isn't me being gay and helping you wonderful?"
     
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    thread fail....

    gender gets a special protective class, race has a class.....but not those who are homosexual.....

    :cuckoo:
     
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    This thread is gay.
     
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    Actually, it was the Mormons pumping millions into a campaign against the gays. Yea, the Mormons who get married three and four at a time.

    The Mormon Church Is Leading the Fight Against Gay Marriage in California | Sex and Relationships | AlterNet

    Mormongate for 2009? The LDS (Mormon) Church and California's Proposition 8 - springfield legal services - backpage.com

    When you think of all the things money could be spent on. Children, education, the poor, health. Instead, all these people want to spend money to make gays miserable. People they don't know, don't have any contact with, don't care about, people who don't care about them.

    It's one of the most stupid, retarded, wasteful and pathetic things I can think of.

    http://blog.purposedriven.com/bodyparts/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/CrystalCathedral.jpg

    http://www.cs.utah.edu/~bigler/pictures/europe2002/italy/sistine chapel.jpg

    http://www.cicsworld.org/blogs/jngant/909-Last-Supper-Large.jpg

    I just think it's incredible that the greatest monuments to religion were created by gays. Whether it's the inside of the Sistine Chapel or the Crystal Cathedral in this country. Gays did it because the religious were too stupid.
     
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    How do you know this?

    Do you know for a fact that everyone who goes to bat for other minorities are all heterosexuals?
     
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