Why I support Mitt Romney for President

[freedombecki]

The arguments are not the same, polygamy is a choice, homosexuality is not.

Some say it is a choice. I've seen no compelling DNA studies that point to homosexuality as a characteristic. But I used to think like you. Honest.

 

[francoHFW]

Read something.

 

[midcan5]

When you are young you are often too busy or too dreamy-eyed to pay attention to all the details. When you grow old, if you were lucky you are sometimes too content to care. In the middle, you are often too busy. I have voted for many republicans in my life but today after paying attention to how they changed, voting republican, any republican, seems un-American and contrary to all the values that Americans presume to honor. So my reply:

DOMA is not a defence of marriage, how would you even do that given our divorce rates and other insane situations, it is rather the denial of fundamental rights to human beings who, for whatever reason, love a person of the same sex and desire the same privileges and rights that the legal institution of marriage in America confers on its citizens. This like all discrimination is gradually changing. http://www.usmessageboard.com/health-and-lifestyle/50615-know-what-really-causes-homosexuality.html

For me abortion is and will probably remain the hypocrite's crutch of the so called moral right. A living breathing sentient child dies every few seconds in the world, anyone care? Our last president bombed a nation for no reason in shock and awe killing thousands and none of the so called lovers of life said a thing. Republicans care about abortion because it fits a narrative completely divorced from their actions, single issue voters who pay no attention to what republicans actually do believe the rhetoric. I have enough commentary in the the links below, so I'll stop here.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-at-record-low-41-percent-34.html#post5339879
http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...-a-heartbeat-is-detectable-4.html#post3814184
http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...e-with-a-history-of-trauma-5.html#post4730878


In an odd sense the military is socialism that works, if you can put up with constant moving, isolated remote sites etc, it could be a nice life, but for those of us who have been there, done that, the waste is substantial and having installations all other the US and world, while good for the local economy hardly protects anyone except the people who work on the fort or base or camp. But I am mixed on this one as it a great place to learn, experience life, and see the world. Trouble is it gives the wacko neocons the tools of death. I suggest that if Romney wins and starts more insane or stupid wars, that all those who voted for him from 18 to 70 volunteer, so our real soldiers can get a break. Send the republican chickenhawks this time, maybe they'll learn war is hell.

Being a businessman may be a reason not to vote for him. Anyone out there remember 2008 or the thirties. Funny, but Bush II was an MBA and that was supposed to be a good thing. Business people are crooks and fools like everyone else and the government bailed out the Olympics he was supposed to have saved. This reason carries no weight, next. The Associated Press: Romney resume from 2002 in focus amid Olympic rift

Israel can take care of itself, they have to find solutions that seem impossible since their government is so fragmented with parties. I've talked to some Israelis who seem almost optimistic that a solution will be found, but the settlements and barriers don't make for a pretty picture. This is a wash, unless Romney decides we should go into Iran, then make sure you sign up.

Obamacare like social security and medicare are the things that make a nation great. Great stuff. Enough said.

The second amendment is another meaningless distraction, no one is taking your guns - and this apologizing baloney is just feed for the fools. Being courteous and polite regardless of a person's religion or culture is something your mom and dad should have taught you. Or maybe the republican's fake outrage machine has warped your sense of decency?

So far no sound American reasons to vote for the Mitt. Try again.

PS Massachusetts under Romney had one of the worst job creation records of all the states. This fact has lots to do with things no governor or president can control, but Romney can hardly brag on this issue.

 

[francoHFW]

NOT from science free Pub propaganda machine:

Biology and sexual orientation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation - Cached - Similar
and their results suggested that "genes predisposing to homosexuality may ...
This provides solid experimental evidence of how "gay genes" could not only ...

Jun 25, 2008 ... Gay couples can't have biological kids together. So if homosexuality is genetic,
why hasn't it died out? A study published last week in PLoS ...
US researchers find evidence that homosexuality linked to genetics ...
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/.../homosexuality-genetics-usa - Cached - Similar
Dec 1, 2008 ... Such findings would further the debate over whether homosexuality is innate or a
choice.
Homosexual Behavior Largely Shaped By Genetics And Random ...
Homosexual Behavior Largely Shaped By Genetics And Random Environmental Factors - Cached - Similar
Jun 30, 2008 ... Homosexual behavior is largely shaped by genetics and random environmental
factors, according to findings from the world's largest study of ...
"Born that way" Theory - Is Homosexuality Genetic?
"Born that way" Theory - Is Homosexuality Genetic? - Cached - Similar
Welcome to the National Association for Research and Therapy of
Homosexuality (NARTH) -- a non-profit, educational organization dedicated to
affirming a ...
Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture in AllPsych Journal
allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html - Cached - Similar
Apr 30, 2003 ... He took 40 DNA samples from homosexual men, and genetically examined them.
He found that there was a 'remarkable concordance' for 5 ...
Could homosexual genes be naturally selected? | Psychology Today
www.psychologytoday.com/.../could-homosexual-genes-be-naturally-selected - Cached - Similar
Jun 9, 2009 ... Homosexuality may persist because the associated genes convey advantages.
By Nigel Barber, Ph.D....

 

[Murf76]

The arguments are not the same, polygamy is a choice, homosexuality is not.

Some say it is a choice. I've seen no compelling DNA studies that point to homosexuality as a characteristic. But I used to think like you. Honest.

You're right. There's no definitive answer on 'nature or nurture' as yet. And weirdly, I had some pretty compelling arguments in favor of gay marriage and even polygamous marriage until this whole Chick-fil-a thing came about. Now, I just don't give a crap anymore. If it requires a choice between gay marriage and persecuting people over their religious beliefs... if they're really not going to be happy until everyone's chosen a side... then whatever. Count me out.

 

[Murf76]

When you are young you are often too busy or too dreamy-eyed to pay attention to all the details. When you grow old, if you were lucky you are sometimes to content to care. In the middle, you are often too busy. I have voted for many republicans in my life but today after paying attention to how they changed, voting republican, any republican, seems un-American and contrary to all the values that Americans presume to honor. So my reply:

DOMA is not a defence of marriage, how would you even do that given our divorce rates and other insane situations, it is rather the denial of fundamental rights to human beings who, for whatever reason, love a person of the same sex and desire the same privileges and rights that the legal institution of marriage in America confers on its citizens. This like all discrimination is gradually changing. http://www.usmessageboard.com/health-and-lifestyle/50615-know-what-really-causes-homosexuality.html

For me abortion is and will probably remain the hypocrite's crutch of the so called moral right. A living breathing sentient child dies every few seconds in the world, anyone care? Our last president bombed a nation for no reason in shock and awe killing thousands and none of the so called lovers of life said a thing. Republicans care about abortion because it fits a narrative completely divorced from their actions, but turns out voters who pay no attention to what they actually do to support life. I have enough commentary in the the links below, so I'll stop here.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-at-record-low-41-percent-34.html#post5339879
http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...-a-heartbeat-is-detectable-4.html#post3814184
http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...e-with-a-history-of-trauma-5.html#post4730878


In an odd sense the military is socialism that works, if you can put up with constant moving, isolated remote sites etc, it could be a nice life, but for those of us have been there, done that, the waste is very large and having installations all other the place while good for the local economy hardly protects anyone except the people who work on fort or base or camp. But I am mixed on this one as it a great place to learn and see the world. Trouble is it gives the wacko neocons the tools of death. I suggest that if Romney wins and starts more insane or stupid wars that all those who voted for him 18 to 70 volunteer so our real soldiers can get a break. Send the republican chickenhawks this time, maybe they'll learn war is hell.

Being a business man may be a reason not to vote for him. Anyone out there remember 2008 or the thirties. Funny but Bush II was an MBA and that was supposed to be a good thing. Business people are crooks and fools like everyone else and the government bailed out the Olympics he was supposed to have saved. This reason carries no weight, next. The Associated Press: Romney resume from 2002 in focus amid Olympic rift

Israel can take care of itself, they have to find solutions that seem impossible since their government is so fragmented with parties. I've talked to some Israelis who seem almost optimistic that a solution will be found, but the settlements and barriers don't make for a pretty picture. This is a wash unless Romney decides we should go into Iran, then make sure you sign up.

Obamacare like social security and medicare are the things that make a nation great. Enough said.

The second amendment is another meaningless distraction, no one is taking your guns, and this apologizing stuff is feed for the fools. Being courteous and polite regardless of a person's religion or culture is something your mom and dad should have taught you. Or maybe the republicans fake outrage machines has warped your sense of decency?

So far no sound American reasons to vote for the Mitt. Try again.

PS Massachusetts under Romney had one of the worst job creation stats of all the states. I have to admit this has lots to do with things no governor or president can control, but Romney can hardly brag on this issue.

I'm not going to deal with your entire post, because damn... it's just wrong all over IMO. But I will point out to you that Massachusetts had full employment when Romney left. That makes job growth stats pretty much meaningless. No point in "growing jobs" when everyone who wants one already has one.

 

[Avatar4321]

In response to a thread I saw about no one talking of their support for Mitt Romney and only trashing Obama - Here ya go:

I, like so many, bought into Obama's rhetoric and lofty promises of Hope and Change in 2008. Although I disagreed with him on so many key issues, I thought it was a new era, a new time, a new political arena, and I thought he was going to be the one to get America on track. Man was I wrong.

4 years later, I see that his tenure as President has been nothing but a failure. I'm not someone that believes he is just crumbling America because he hates America, rather I think he's tried everything he thinks will work.. and it isn't. As Romney said, "he's out of ideas, and out of time."

I think he's tried his social experiment on America, and I believe it's failed. From Obamacare, to supporting gay marriage and no longer defending the law of the land (DOMA), and to supporting government funded abortions - he has to go.

His economic policies have obviously failed as well. Unemployment still sky high.. Gas prices still skyrocketing.. America lost it's AAA credit rating.. What's next?!

Now that I've made the case against Barack Obama (as an ex-supporter.. yes, it's amazing what four years of Obama can do to someone).. Allow me to make the case for Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney - Businessman, Religious leader, Governor.. Why is he the right choice to beat Obama? While I admit that Mitt Romney wasn't my first choice, he is my 100% choice now. Here's why - listed in importance to me..

#1. He's for defending our laws and upholding marriage as an institution between a man and a woman (DOMA).
#2. He's for protecting innocent life by repealing Roe V. Wade and letting the states decide abortion laws.. and he's also for cutting ANY government funding that goes to killing innocent life.
#3. He doesn't want to cut our military at such a volatile time.
#4. He's a businessman. We need someone that knows a thing or two about running something and how to get businesses doing business again.
#5. He'll be a strong ally of Israel.. and may even make a couple trips over there.. (ahem, Obama, ahem..)
#6. He's for repealing Obamacare and letting the states decide their own health care laws, like he did in Mass.
#7. He'll protect the second amendment and won't tour the world making apologies for America.

Just my top 7.. I know he isn't perfect.. but when we compare him to Obama.. There's no contest..

Romney 2012!

I find it hard to believe you voted for Obama. You're focus is the exact same focus as the Tea Party folks.

Take it or leave it. I completely changed in 4 years.

So did this guy..

C.L. Bryant Talks About His Journey From the NAACP to the Tea party | TheBlaze.com

You have to forgive Sallow. Im not sure he understands that people can grow and correct their mistakes

 

[Avatar4321]

The arguments are not the same, polygamy is a choice, homosexuality is not.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Sexual urges are sexual urges. You have the choice to act on any of them or not act on them.

 

[skookerasbil]

Anybody hear this dumbass president today?

At least we know Romney isnt a communist.

 

[skookerasbil]

Im curious to know how many of the k00k male posters in here are official limpwristers?

 

[jasonnfree]

You know Romney says "corporations are people my friend." Now if you go a stretch and agree with that, why can't you go a stretch and agree that gays are people also? And as people they have a right to make a marriage contract? Marriage isn't what it's cracked up to be anyway. Look at the divorce rate and domestic violence rate. Republicans should rejoice that with gay marriage there won't be any abortions.

 

[candycorn]

Good post. He has flip flopped on at least 2 of the points you mentioend above. About "repealing Obamacare" and replacing it with what he did in MA...that doesn't make much sense.

But if you cite those as reasons to vote FOR the Governor, you should; as much as I cite some of those as reasons not to. I do urge you to vote for republicans in all of the federal elections though; give your guy something to work with.

He changed his mind on abortion.. What else?

I'm all for changing your mind.. If it's for the better. If Obama came out today and said.. Hey, we're gonna defend DOMA.. And I now believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.. I'd..

He's already said he'd keep some aspects of the ACA, for one.

Are you sure he won't change his mind again, "for the worse"? He has flipped on so many topics that it is a valid question.

WhichMitt: On Being Conservative... - YouTube

Which Mitt? | Get To Know Mitt Romney

He even flipped on the tax records.

Well, are you sure?

 

[DiamondDave]

The arguments are not the same, polygamy is a choice, homosexuality is not.

Not proven in the least

And if it IS proven to be a genetic abnormality or mutation.. you then open up the whole other can of worms of if a 'cure' should then be sought as with other genetic abnormalities..

I will continue to be on the side that it is a choice or learned behavior, until I would be shown otherwise.. but I fully support people to have and exercise that choice and should not be treated unequally because of it

 

[Conservadude]

He changed his mind on abortion.. What else?

I'm all for changing your mind.. If it's for the better. If Obama came out today and said.. Hey, we're gonna defend DOMA.. And I now believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.. I'd..

He's already said he'd keep some aspects of the ACA, for one.

Are you sure he won't change his mind again, "for the worse"? He has flipped on so many topics that it is a valid question.

WhichMitt: On Being Conservative... - YouTube

Which Mitt? | Get To Know Mitt Romney

He even flipped on the tax records.

Well, are you sure?

Should we even bring up the flip flops Obama's had in his career? Starting with the most recent.. on gay marriage? Or what about the one from the 90's.. When he completely opposed making people work to be on welfare.. I could get you a list..

 

[candycorn]

He's already said he'd keep some aspects of the ACA, for one.

Are you sure he won't change his mind again, "for the worse"? He has flipped on so many topics that it is a valid question.

WhichMitt: On Being Conservative... - YouTube

Which Mitt? | Get To Know Mitt Romney

He even flipped on the tax records.

Well, are you sure?

Should we even bring up the flip flops Obama's had in his career? Starting with the most recent.. on gay marriage? Or what about the one from the 90's.. When he completely opposed making people work to be on welfare.. I could get you a list..

Ahh yes, the old "yeah but..." from the right wing.

If you wish to compare "flip flops" I'm comfortable having that debate. Bring it on! You're way outgunned.

 

[Conservadude]

Well, are you sure?

Should we even bring up the flip flops Obama's had in his career? Starting with the most recent.. on gay marriage? Or what about the one from the 90's.. When he completely opposed making people work to be on welfare.. I could get you a list..

Ahh yes, the old "yeah but..." from the right wing.

If you wish to compare "flip flops" I'm comfortable having that debate. Bring it on! You're way outgunned.

Actually I honestly don't care about "flip-flops".. I prefer tennis-shoes.. .. Nah, all jokes aside.. Idc what they "used" to say.. It's the state of NOW, and what they say NOW. And that's why I'm voting Romney. I support what he's saying.

 

[GoneBezerk]

I would vote for Romney against Obamination, Reid, Pelosi, Clinton, etc...whatever idiot the DNC puts up against Romney.

Is Romney the BEST GOP choice? Probably not, but he can win this election because he appeals to many moderates that voted for the idiot in 2008.

Romney's focus will be fixing the economy, repealing Obamacare and fixing the military. The rest is gravy.

I don't give a crap about his weird religion. I don't care about his wealth. I don't care about his Mr Nice Guy image and mentality.

I care about him fixing this mess and getting rid of the idiot currently hiding in the White House. Send that idiot to the liberal moron talking circuit about how his green energy scams could've worked with Trllions more spent on it and driving fossil fuel companies out of business through the EPA and DoJ.

 

[Katzndogz]

I support Mitt Romney because I don't like what obama has done so far.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

In response to a thread I saw about no one talking of their support for Mitt Romney and only trashing Obama - Here ya go:

I, like so many, bought into Obama's rhetoric and lofty promises of Hope and Change in 2008. Although I disagreed with him on so many key issues, I thought it was a new era, a new time, a new political arena, and I thought he was going to be the one to get America on track. Man was I wrong.

4 years later, I see that his tenure as President has been nothing but a failure. I'm not someone that believes he is just crumbling America because he hates America, rather I think he's tried everything he thinks will work.. and it isn't. As Romney said, "he's out of ideas, and out of time."

I think he's tried his social experiment on America, and I believe it's failed. From Obamacare, to supporting gay marriage and no longer defending the law of the land (DOMA), and to supporting government funded abortions - he has to go.

His economic policies have obviously failed as well. Unemployment still sky high.. Gas prices still skyrocketing.. America lost it's AAA credit rating.. What's next?!

Now that I've made the case against Barack Obama (as an ex-supporter.. yes, it's amazing what four years of Obama can do to someone).. Allow me to make the case for Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney - Businessman, Religious leader, Governor.. Why is he the right choice to beat Obama? While I admit that Mitt Romney wasn't my first choice, he is my 100% choice now. Here's why - listed in importance to me..

#1. He's for defending our laws and upholding marriage as an institution between a man and a woman (DOMA).
#2. He's for protecting innocent life by repealing Roe V. Wade and letting the states decide abortion laws.. and he's also for cutting ANY government funding that goes to killing innocent life.
#3. He doesn't want to cut our military at such a volatile time.
#4. He's a businessman. We need someone that knows a thing or two about running something and how to get businesses doing business again.
#5. He'll be a strong ally of Israel.. and may even make a couple trips over there.. (ahem, Obama, ahem..)
#6. He's for repealing Obamacare and letting the states decide their own health care laws, like he did in Mass.
#7. He'll protect the second amendment and won't tour the world making apologies for America.

Just my top 7.. I know he isn't perfect.. but when we compare him to Obama.. There's no contest..

Romney 2012!

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[jillian]

The whole 1st half of your post has nothing to do with Mitt, and even while praising him you still couldn't help but take jabs at Obama.

because that's the real reason they're voting for him....

he's not obama.

not a good enough reason for most people, i think.

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