Why I listen to Conservative Talk Radio

i thought people listened to conservative talk radio beacuse they were incapable of independent thought and felt it easier to have their opinions given to them

Same as Liberal Talk Radio that continues to get it's collective ASS waxed in the ratings? (And has to WHINE to Congress to get measures like "Fairness Doctrine" Considered...?

YOU are full of SHIT and can't stand getting yer ass handed to YOU.

Liberals, unlike conservatives, do not need radio hosts to tell them what to think thus liberal radios worse ratings.

Keep tellin' yerself that. Just not true, though it does provide a convenient excuse for their failing.

No, "liberal" radio's failing is that they were unwilling to invest time (years) into the project, and thought they could overcome the time factor by just throwing money at it.
 
No, "liberal" radio's failing is that they were unwilling to invest time (years) into the project, and thought they could overcome the time factor by just throwing money at it.

Liberal radio fails because it has nothing to say, no philosophy that can be rationally articulated. All it can do is point to the 'sins' of conservatives or conservative figures or Republicans or Republican presidents or whatever and complain about how greedy or irresponsible or bloodthirsty or whatever they are (in the mind of the liberals). It says that freedom and less government intervention or whatever never works, but it cannot that with any kind of authority or defend its point of view. It applauds liberalism for 'caring' or being willing to address the problems of humanity, but it cannot speak to the failures of liberalism, socialism, progressive-ism, or whatever on any given day, nor can it or will it address the true human tragedies produced by implemented liberal philosophy.

When all you here is empty theory and accusations directed at others, it wears thin really quickly. Liberal radio offers nothing else.

Conservative radio directs criticism yes and has its share of rants and screeds, but it also can articulate and defend principles, ideas, and concepts and spends most of its time doing that. It therefore is usually more interesting and holds an audience.
 
No, "liberal" radio's failing is that they were unwilling to invest time (years) into the project, and thought they could overcome the time factor by just throwing money at it.

Liberal radio fails because it has nothing to say, no philosophy that can be rationally articulated. All it can do is point to the 'sins' of conservatives or conservative figures or Republicans or Republican presidents or whatever and complain about how greedy or irresponsible or bloodthirsty or whatever they are (in the mind of the liberals). It says that freedom and less government intervention or whatever never works, but it cannot that with any kind of authority or defend its point of view. It applauds liberalism for 'caring' or being willing to address the problems of humanity, but it cannot speak to the failures of liberalism, socialism, progressive-ism, or whatever on any given day, nor can it or will it address the true human tragedies produced by implemented liberal philosophy.

When all you here is empty theory and accusations directed at others, it wears thin really quickly. Liberal radio offers nothing else.

Conservative radio directs criticism yes and has its share of rants and screeds, but it also can articulate and defend principles, ideas, and concepts and spends most of its time doing that. It therefore is usually more interesting and holds an audience.

That ain't it either.

Liberal radio can be just as successful as conservative radio.

It's just gonna take 20 years.
 
And corporations wanting the liberal ideas in the market place.

Oh wait maybe it will never be as well supported add wise as conservative radio.
 
And corporations wanting the liberal ideas in the market place.

Oh wait maybe it will never be as well supported add wise as conservative radio.

Sure it would.

All that matters is audience size and time spent listening. Thats what the ad buyers care about. Not the ideology of the station.
 
Same as Liberal Talk Radio that continues to get it's collective ASS waxed in the ratings? (And has to WHINE to Congress to get measures like "Fairness Doctrine" Considered...?

YOU are full of SHIT and can't stand getting yer ass handed to YOU.

Liberals, unlike conservatives, do not need radio hosts to tell them what to think thus liberal radios worse ratings.

Keep tellin' yerself that. Just not true, though it does provide a convenient excuse for their failing.

No, "liberal" radio's failing is that they were unwilling to invest time (years) into the project, and thought they could overcome the time factor by just throwing money at it.
That and they were unwilling or unable to cultivate a decent stable of hosts (I imagine that's part of the time factor) and just threw whatever jabbering whackos they could lay their hands upon in front of the mics....This easily explains the tragically inarticulate and unfunny Al Franken, propped up as Airhead America's supposed #1 host for as long as he was.
 
Liberals, unlike conservatives, do not need radio hosts to tell them what to think thus liberal radios worse ratings.

Keep tellin' yerself that. Just not true, though it does provide a convenient excuse for their failing.

No, "liberal" radio's failing is that they were unwilling to invest time (years) into the project, and thought they could overcome the time factor by just throwing money at it.
That and they were unwilling or unable to cultivate a decent stable of hosts (I imagine that's part of the time factor) and just threw whatever jabbering whackos they could lay their hands upon in front of the mics....

Bingo.

The best person they had was Randi Rhodes...someone who actually was successful in the radio medium before the AA debacle. Shame they didn't promote her more as a centerpiece of the project. Also a shame they didn't take a formula like hers and use it across many of the hosts. It mighta had a shot then.

Franken and company tried to be too intellectual and information based. There's NPR for that. Go with Rhodes style, get emotions fired up, get knee deep in the controversy. Cause a little on yer own...THATS how they could have been successful if they didn't want to do it the right way (ie: build support slowly and through grassroots, hire successful radio talk-show hosts already in smaller markets and give them support and groom them, etc. etc. etc.)
 
Franken wasn't even intellectual. Real intellectuals can speak extemporaneously without all the "uuuhhhh"s and "annnnd"s that overran his incoherent blabbering. I tried on several occasions to get through just 1/2 hour of his inane prattling and couldn't pull it off.

Although Rhodes is a decent host from a technical standpoint, she could give Limpbagh clinics in pure nastiness.

The only one of them I could stomach for any amount of time at all was Ed Schultz, and AA did their deal level best to alienate him and stab him in the back when he got syndicated.
 
Franken wasn't even intellectual. Real intellectuals can speak extemporaneously without all the "uuuhhhh"s and "annnnd"s that overran his incoherent blabbering. I tried on several occasions to get through just 1/2 hour of his inane prattling and couldn't pull it off.

Although Rhodes is a decent host from a technical standpoint, she could give Limpbagh clinics in pure nastiness.

The only one of them I could stomach for any amount of time at all was Ed Schultz, and AA did their deal level best to alienate him and stab him in the back when he got syndicated.

Yeah, Franken's "uhhh's" and stuff killed the momentum of his program too. He's just not a radio host, and it was stupid to put him in as one.

Rhodes was a Savage/Limbaugh doppelganger. She did pretty good at it.

Their best bet would have been to cultivate talent in many cities, then slowly expand and offer them syndication deals in liberal friendly cities, say Seattle, San Fran, LA...but not all at once. Much like Premiere Radio, or any successful syndication network has done.

Instead they thought they could just buy their way through any issues and shake 'n baked the whole thing. Predictably falling on their faces.
 
i thought people listened to conservative talk radio beacuse they were incapable of independent thought and felt it easier to have their opinions given to them

No, that would be the reason people watch MSNBC. And Bill Maher. And The Daily Show. And the Colbert Report. And read Huffington Post. And DailyKos. And the New York Times.
 
i thought people listened to conservative talk radio beacuse they were incapable of independent thought and felt it easier to have their opinions given to them

No, that would be the reason people watch MSNBC. And Bill Maher. And The Daily Show. And the Colbert Report. And read Huffington Post. And DailyKos. And the New York Times.

You know The Daily Show and the Colbert Report are comedy shows, right?
 
Franken is intellectual and he's street savvy. He may not be a good radio personality but he is learning how to work for his state in the senate. He knows his issues and isn't afraid to speak up.

He handled that farce of his state election perfectly.
 
Franken is intellectual and he's street savvy. He may not be a good radio personality but he is learning how to work for his state in the senate. He knows his issues and isn't afraid to speak up.

He handled that farce of his state election perfectly.
He's an intellectual? Then I'm freaking Dr. Manhattan.
 
No, "liberal" radio's failing is that they were unwilling to invest time (years) into the project, and thought they could overcome the time factor by just throwing money at it.

Liberal radio fails because it has nothing to say, no philosophy that can be rationally articulated. All it can do is point to the 'sins' of conservatives or conservative figures or Republicans or Republican presidents or whatever and complain about how greedy or irresponsible or bloodthirsty or whatever they are (in the mind of the liberals). It says that freedom and less government intervention or whatever never works, but it cannot that with any kind of authority or defend its point of view. It applauds liberalism for 'caring' or being willing to address the problems of humanity, but it cannot speak to the failures of liberalism, socialism, progressive-ism, or whatever on any given day, nor can it or will it address the true human tragedies produced by implemented liberal philosophy.

When all you here is empty theory and accusations directed at others, it wears thin really quickly. Liberal radio offers nothing else.

Conservative radio directs criticism yes and has its share of rants and screeds, but it also can articulate and defend principles, ideas, and concepts and spends most of its time doing that. It therefore is usually more interesting and holds an audience.

That ain't it either.

Liberal radio can be just as successful as conservative radio.

It's just gonna take 20 years.

Baloney. From the early 1980's through the early 90's, during the implementation of the last 'fairness doctrine', tbere was a lot of liberal programming to balance conservative programming. Alan Combs (of Hannity & Combs fame) had maybe the most successful of all daytime programming in terms of stations, but even though more talented than most, Combs also had nothing of substance with which to defend liberalism, and as station after station had trouble getting advertisers for his afternoon show and looked for ways to drop him, he had to give it up. Even Larry King--regular night program--couldn't sustain an audience after the conservative programs began to gather steam and were attracting the huge lions share of listeners. Once most people were hearing their point of view broadcast on conservative talk radio, they abandoned all liberal programming in droves.

So liberal talk radio has been around just as long. But it has never been able to gain the traction of conservative talk radio because it has so little to offer of substance that resonates with the people. And even the most bleeding heart liberal gets tired of hearing nothing but rants against conservatives after awhile.

Conservatives don't listen to conservative talk radio to be told what to think. They listen to conservative talk radio because it speaks what they already think and provides a framework to further explore and consider conservative values and principles.
 
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Liberal radio fails because it has nothing to say, no philosophy that can be rationally articulated. All it can do is point to the 'sins' of conservatives or conservative figures or Republicans or Republican presidents or whatever and complain about how greedy or irresponsible or bloodthirsty or whatever they are (in the mind of the liberals). It says that freedom and less government intervention or whatever never works, but it cannot that with any kind of authority or defend its point of view. It applauds liberalism for 'caring' or being willing to address the problems of humanity, but it cannot speak to the failures of liberalism, socialism, progressive-ism, or whatever on any given day, nor can it or will it address the true human tragedies produced by implemented liberal philosophy.

When all you here is empty theory and accusations directed at others, it wears thin really quickly. Liberal radio offers nothing else.

Conservative radio directs criticism yes and has its share of rants and screeds, but it also can articulate and defend principles, ideas, and concepts and spends most of its time doing that. It therefore is usually more interesting and holds an audience.

That ain't it either.

Liberal radio can be just as successful as conservative radio.

It's just gonna take 20 years.

Baloney. From the early 1980's through the early 90's, during the implementation of the last 'fairness doctrine', tbere was a lot of liberal programming to balance conservative programming. Alan Combs (of Hannity & Combs fame) had maybe the most successful of all daytime programming in terms of stations, but even though more talented than most, Combs also had nothing of substance with which to defend liberalism, and as station after station had trouble getting advertisers for his afternoon show and looked for ways to drop him. Even Larry King--regular night program--couldn't sustain an audience after the conservative programs began to gather steam and were attracting the huge lions share of listeners. Once most people were hearing their point of view broadcast on conservative talk radio, they abandoned all liberal programming in droves.

So liberal talk radio has been around just as long. But it has never been able to gain the traction of conservative talk radio because it has so little to offer of substance that resonates with the people. And even the most bleeding heart liberal gets tired of hearing nothing but rants against conservatives after awhile.

Conservatives don't listen to conservative talk radio to be told what to think. They listen to conservative talk radio because it speaks what they already think and provides a framework to further explore and consider conservative values and principles.

Dude,

Holding up Alan Combes as an example of good liberal radio doesn't help yer point any.

And liberal radio could work. Hell, just look around here. You don't think that there would be an audience for it? Even if only 10% of any given market tuned into such a station for any given time, the station would dominate the ratings.

No, the problem is not one of "nothing to say", it's a problem with marketing savvy.
 
Holding up Alan Combes as an example of good liberal radio doesn't help yer point any.

I have listened to Combes show. He's a nice enough guy, but he entertains suck fucking STUPID ideas... and had stolen almost ad hoc Hannity's format (what a surprise) I had to stop listening. I was screaming at the radio in the car too much over berzerk morons he treated as sane, normal people. It was rubbing off on me, making me berzerk.

He's nothing more than the radio version of the same shit on MSLSD. So why would I even listen?
 
Dude,

Holding up Alan Combes as an example of good liberal radio doesn't help yer point any.

And liberal radio could work. Hell, just look around here. You don't think that there would be an audience for it? Even if only 10% of any given market tuned into such a station for any given time, the station would dominate the ratings.

No, the problem is not one of "nothing to say", it's a problem with marketing savvy.

I don't know what Colmes (misspelled him before) is sounding like these days--he's a regular commentator on Fox News still and still mostly programmed talking points with little or nothing else to offer. But I used to drive a lot in my work and regularly listened to him on the road during the 80's. I know he had the best ratings and he seriously is the most talented of all on the liberal side. In sheer ability to communicate he does every bit as well as Inghram, Limbaugh, Hannity, or any of the other successful conservative hosts. But he could not sustain an audience. Most of his callers were rude conservatives calling to bash him or reasonable conservatives calling to correct him. The few diehard liberals who called in did so with such regularity that I got to know their voices.

As for marketing, I know something of the business, and I can assure you all these liberal guys and gals are marketed with the same proficiency as the conservative hosts are marketed. They have been featured on the same stations that boost the ratings of the conservative hosts. Advertising is probably sold more aggressively for them than for any of the others where advertisers beg to have ads run so they'll get maximum exposure.

Liberalism simply has too little to offer to be marketed to attract profitable listeners.
 
Holding up Alan Combes as an example of good liberal radio doesn't help yer point any.

I have listened to Combes show. He's a nice enough guy, but he entertains suck fucking STUPID ideas

It's not his ideas. It's that he can't entertain...period.
Well, not very well. He'd be a better local host. But doesn't have the chops to hold on to a nationally syndicated show.

he's quickly discovering how much he was riding Sean's coattails.
 

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