Why I Can't Vote For Obama

[auditor0007]

As a self-employed American with some health issues, I actually support some drastic changes to our healthcare system. I might even be persuaded to support some form of National Heathcare if it were set up in a way that would help reduce costs, allow more people to have coverage, and still provide the best care in the world.

Obama's healthcare plan is supposedly about fairness. In fact, just about everything Obama talks about involves fairness. Well, life is not always fair, and it really shouldn't be. When it comes to healthcare, fairness in itself will not reduce costs, and that is the biggest problem with our system. Healthcare costs too much. It costs too much for employers and it costs too much for individuals.

So what does Obama want to do about Healthcare? He wants to make it so that insurance companies cannot deny anyone for pre-existing conditions. On the surface, that is wonderful. With such a plan, millions of Americans who cannot get insurance on their own would then become eligible. Here is the problem with that plan. Under Obama's plan, there is no requirement to purchase health insurance. In other words, under Obama's plan, you could wait until you became sick, and then purchase health insurance.

Can you imagine if you could do this with your auto insurance? Let's see, I won't buy insurance until I get into an accident. As soon as I get into an accident, then I'll buy the insurance and the insurance company will have to accept me retroactively. So no one would buy auto insurance, but the insurance companies would have to pay out for everyone who got into an accident. Who would pay for this?

Under Obama's plan, this is what would actually happen. More people would choose to not pay for health insurance. When they became sick, then they would purchase the insurance. So, those who were paying for health insurance would see their premiums soar. Health care costs would skyrocket, and less people would be covered.

This is how Obama thinks, and that should scare every single one of us. This is the reason that I will vote for McCain. I don't like John McCain at all, but Obama's idea of change is change for the worse. Punishing the Republicans for bad past performance is not the answer if it means we will be shooting ourselves in the foot at the same time.

 

[Truthmatters]

go look at the insurance cos profits over the smae years that medicine has gotten so expensive.

you may actually figure something out.

 

[bigdaddygtr]

Wow, comparing auto insurance to health insurance is absolutely ridiculous. So now, humans(children especially) are the same as cars when it comes to getting better?

Awful comparison

 

[DavidS]

This guy's a McCain campaign plant. I recognize the writing style.

 

[CA95380]

This guy's a McCain campaign plant. I recognize the writing style.

Woohoo! We have McCain shaking in his boots ... sending his spies to USMB! Now! Maybe they will finally "get it"!

 

[auditor0007]

go look at the insurance cos profits over the smae years that medicine has gotten so expensive.

you may actually figure something out.

It is true that insurance company profits have risen. However, you could take away all of their profits, and costs still would have risen dramatically. Their profit is a spit in the bucket when compared to total costs of healthcare.

The bottom line remains that Obama's plan, as it stands, would be a disaster.

 

[xsited1]

If Obama is elected, nobody will get sick. If you start to feel ill, just send your money to Obama, pray to him at least 5 times a day and you'll be healed.

 

[auditor0007]

Wow, comparing auto insurance to health insurance is absolutely ridiculous. So now, humans(children especially) are the same as cars when it comes to getting better?

Awful comparison

You don't understand the comparison? You don't understand that when offered the opportunity to buy health insurance at any time, people will choose to wait until they are sick?

I'm not against some form of National Healthcare, but if you're going to force the insurance companies to insure everyone including those who are already sick, then you have to force people to pay for the insurance from day one. If you look at Hillary's healthcare plan, you would see that under her plan, everyone was required to purchase health insurance. How she would enforce this was questionable at best, but at least she understood that in order to offer health insurance to everyone, everyone must take part in paying for it.

Those of you who support Obama look at him, and think he is so wonderful because he is promising everyone the world. The problem is someone is going to pay for his programs, and it's going to be you and me. Yes, the rich will pay more, but everyday Americans will get clobbered. You just watch, because I'm pretty certain he will be our next President.

Jimmy Carter II is what we are going to get.

 

[DavidS]

If Obama is elected, nobody will get sick. If you start to feel ill, just send your money to Obama, pray to him at least 5 times a day and you'll be healed.

Obama is the great guru!

 

[mdjgirl7]

You don't understand the comparison? You don't understand that when offered the opportunity to buy health insurance at any time, people will choose to wait until they are sick?

I'm not against some form of National Healthcare, but if you're going to force the insurance companies to insure everyone including those who are already sick, then you have to force people to pay for the insurance from day one. If you look at Hillary's healthcare plan, you would see that under her plan, everyone was required to purchase health insurance. How she would enforce this was questionable at best, but at least she understood that in order to offer health insurance to everyone, everyone must take part in paying for it.

Those of you who support Obama look at him, and think he is so wonderful because he is promising everyone the world. The problem is someone is going to pay for his programs, and it's going to be you and me. Yes, the rich will pay more, but everyday Americans will get clobbered. You just watch, because I'm pretty certain he will be our next President.

Jimmy Carter II is what we are going to get.

OMG a sane person thank you. Jimmy Carter is going to look good IF Obama gets into office.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

This guy's a McCain campaign plant. I recognize the writing style.

I think you are delusional.

 

[rayboyusmc]

McCain's plan will help the companies and not the patient and will force some small companies to cut out healthcare coverage.

Get a life - Back some kind of universal healthcare plan. If it's good enough for our elected officials, we are good enough for it.

Why do we pay more per person than any other industrialized country and yet rate about 37% in overall care? Why do we have infant mortality rates equal to some third world country.

Our system is broken and sucks the money out of our pockets without making Us healthy.

But keep on believing that your 2500.00 credit will allow you to shop across state lines that have different rules on minimum coverages. What horseshit.

 

[CA95380]

If Obama is elected, nobody will get sick. If you start to feel ill, just send your money to Obama, pray to him at least 5 times a day and you'll be healed.

I guess you are kinda like Sam when he was out hunting with his buddy Chuck, huh?

Sam gets bit by a rattlesnake on the "pecker". He yells to Chuck - "Run!!!!! Go get a doctor and find out what we should do to get rid of the poison!" 1/2 hour later - Chuck returns to give Sam the bad news .... "The doctor say's you're gonna die!!!!!"

 

[xsited1]

I guess you are kinda like Sam when he was out hunting with his buddy Chuck, huh?

Sam gets bit by a rattlesnake on the "pecker". He yells to Chuck - "Run!!!!! Go get a doctor and find out what we should do to get rid of the poison!" 1/2 hour later - Chuck returns to give Sam the bad news .... "The doctor say's you're gonna die!!!!!"

You messed up the joke! (Please feel free to edit it.)

BTW, isn't your name Chuck and aren't you gay?

 

[CA95380]

You messed up the joke! (Please feel free to edit it.)

BTW, isn't your name Chuck and aren't you gay?

You have permission to edit it for me. Since you have all of the answers ...

Quote: "If Obama is elected, nobody will get sick. If you start to feel ill, just send your money to Obama, pray to him at least 5 times a day and you'll be healed."

 

[auditor0007]

McCain's plan will help the companies and not the patient and will force some small companies to cut out healthcare coverage.

Get a life - Back some kind of universal healthcare plan. If it's good enough for our elected officials, we are good enough for it.

Why do we pay more per person than any other industrialized country and yet rate about 37% in overall care? Why do we have infant mortality rates equal to some third world country.

Our system is broken and sucks the money out of our pockets without making Us healthy.

But keep on believing that your 2500.00 credit will allow you to shop across state lines that have different rules on minimum coverages. What horseshit.

Admittedly, McCain's plan is not a good answer to the healthcare problem. And I would support a good national healthcare plan that would help reduce costs. What I will not support, is a plan that is going to do the exact opposite of what it is meant to do.

 

[Care4all]

As a self-employed American with some health issues, I actually support some drastic changes to our healthcare system. I might even be persuaded to support some form of National Heathcare if it were set up in a way that would help reduce costs, allow more people to have coverage, and still provide the best care in the world.

Obama's healthcare plan is supposedly about fairness. In fact, just about everything Obama talks about involves fairness. Well, life is not always fair, and it really shouldn't be. When it comes to healthcare, fairness in itself will not reduce costs, and that is the biggest problem with our system. Healthcare costs too much. It costs too much for employers and it costs too much for individuals.

So what does Obama want to do about Healthcare? He wants to make it so that insurance companies cannot deny anyone for pre-existing conditions. On the surface, that is wonderful. With such a plan, millions of Americans who cannot get insurance on their own would then become eligible. Here is the problem with that plan. Under Obama's plan, there is no requirement to purchase health insurance. In other words, under Obama's plan, you could wait until you became sick, and then purchase health insurance.

Can you imagine if you could do this with your auto insurance? Let's see, I won't buy insurance until I get into an accident. As soon as I get into an accident, then I'll buy the insurance and the insurance company will have to accept me retroactively. So no one would buy auto insurance, but the insurance companies would have to pay out for everyone who got into an accident. Who would pay for this?

Under Obama's plan, this is what would actually happen. More people would choose to not pay for health insurance. When they became sick, then they would purchase the insurance. So, those who were paying for health insurance would see their premiums soar. Health care costs would skyrocket, and less people would be covered.

This is how Obama thinks, and that should scare every single one of us. This is the reason that I will vote for McCain. I don't like John McCain at all, but Obama's idea of change is change for the worse. Punishing the Republicans for bad past performance is not the answer if it means we will be shooting ourselves in the foot at the same time.

ONE- you do not know that those without insurance can go and purchase it after they are sick.

Insurance programs usually have ONE few week period a year, where they have open enrollment...this is how it works, so your suggestion that people can run and get a policy when they become ill, fall's short.

No worries on that Auditor...

And i might say that the Republicans are the ones that insist, nothing be mandatory....obama followed THEIR LEAD and not someone like Hillary's who insisted ALL be part of the plan from the beginning, like the plan in massachusetts.

I agree with you that health care is too costly, and if you actually review obama's proposals there are several measures to reduce the cost of our healthcare in this country....being allowed to negotiate bulk discounts with PHARMA is a huge savings in our gvts healthcare costs and also, the plans to streamline the paperwork of all medical facilities is suppose to give a 20-25% reduction in costs from its efficiency alone.

i wouldn't let this be the sole reason for not voting for obama...

care

 

[xsited1]

You have permission to edit it for me. Since you have all of the answers ...

Quote: "If Obama is elected, nobody will get sick. If you start to feel ill, just send your money to Obama, pray to him at least 5 times a day and you'll be healed."

Okay, here it is:

Obama gets bit by a rattlesnake on the "pecker". He yells to CA95380 - "Run!!!!! Go get a doctor and find out what we should do to get rid of the poison!" CA95380 talks to the doctor who says the venom must be sucked out. CA95380 returns to give Obama the good news .... "The doctor say's I can save you!!!!!"

 

[sealybobo]

This is how Obama thinks, and that should scare every single one of us. This is the reason that I will vote for McCain. I don't like John McCain at all, but Obama's idea of change is change for the worse. Punishing the Republicans for bad past performance is not the answer if it means we will be shooting ourselves in the foot at the same time.

On TV Wednesday night, Obama will give what one aide described to me as a “meaty” discourse on his basic tax and health-care proposals. No high-flown rhetoric, but rather a briefing paper for wary undecided swing voters---most of whom, the campaign thinks, are “soft Republicans” who kind of want to vote for Obama but need reassurance.

Consumer confidence is at an all-time low. The job performance rating of the outgoing Republican president is at Nixon-Carter levels. Nine out of ten voters think the country is off on the wrong track. The Democrats lead in the generic congressional preference vote by a double-digit margin.

Obama has outspent McCain on TV advertising three or four to one

Obama has four thousand paid organizers in key states, an unheard of number.

Most voters think that McCain’s running mate is not qualified to be president.

Many people wonder aloud if McCain is in fact too old (72) to be president.

Obama is one of the most winsome, charismatic candidates to have appeared on the scene in decades.

Still, in today’s “traditional Gallup” Daily Tracking Poll (the one that screens likely voters most rigorously, based on past votes), Obama leads McCain by only two percentage points, 49 to 47 percent.

It’s hard to make the Electoral College numbers add up for McCain. He has to win all of the current tossup states (Montana, North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina and Florida), plus Ohio and Virginia and one of the following three: New Hampshire, Colorado or New Mexico. That isn’t just drawing one inside straight; that’s drawing a whole casino’s worth of them.

So why hasn’t Obama run away with this?

Because the country remains culturally divided. Because the more it looks like Democrats will score huge gains in Congress, the more worried “soft Republican” voters get. Because McCain has succeeded, in the minds of some of those voters, in raising the hoary specter of “tax-and-spend” liberals.

Because Obama hails from a place (South Side Chicago)

Because of Jeremiah Wright, Ayers & Rezko

And, to a degree we cannot measure and may never fully know, because Obama is an African-American---and one with a Swahili name at that.

Race to the Finish : Why It?s Still a Race

 

[PoliticalChic]

McCain's plan will help the companies and not the patient and will force some small companies to cut out healthcare coverage.

Get a life - Back some kind of universal healthcare plan. If it's good enough for our elected officials, we are good enough for it.

Why do we pay more per person than any other industrialized country and yet rate about 37% in overall care? Why do we have infant mortality rates equal to some third world country.

Our system is broken and sucks the money out of our pockets without making Us healthy.

But keep on believing that your 2500.00 credit will allow you to shop across state lines that have different rules on minimum coverages. What horseshit.

The high rate of infant mortality rate in this country is skewed by super preemies (heroic measures used unsuccessfully to save a lot of preemies) and the high rate of super twins (infants born in multiple births are less likely to survive). Also let's not forget the mothers who come from over the border (who most likely did not have prenatal care) to have babies here.

There a lot things wrong with Obama's health plan including employers being penalized for not offering such to their employees. A lot of these businesses are mom and pop stores that can't provide these extras. If they are penalized (and Obama never disclosed how much they will be penalized), these businesses will go under.

Recently, I saw heart-wrenching ads showing people in dire catastrophic medical situations without insurance and they reveal they are forced into bankruptcy. I don't doubt this is the case, but it is not a majority of people. Lots of people take the chance because they don't want to pay for it. Of course, if offered free, they would take it, but they don't want to pay for it out of their own pockets. Like my sister, who is 35, travels the world as a freelance writer. She refuses to go take a blood test because she says it is too costly. This is the same person who wouldn't blink at spending $400 at NOBU (swanky NYC restaurant for people in the know). It's all about priorities.